RIP My Launch PS5

[High Test With da Best]

Can't believe they have been out for 5 years already.

Time flies!

Also I'd like to point out, again, that I recognize where your av is from, and sexy bench man is a GOAT and also it's weird thinking how long ago that video is from!

 

[Blayt7hh]

Can't believe they have been out for 5 years already.

Yeah console generations aren’t what they used to be. I think there may be only around 10 games that are truly exclusive, new games to the PS5.

 

[A_bomb47]

Planned obsolescence is a thing.

That said, $500 for a powerhouse hub to play games from your couch for five years is a helluva deal. The cost/entertainment ratio is out of this world.

No complaints from me to Sony since day 1. Their product has always been reliable and long lasting as far as I've experienced.

This. Taking my wife to an above average restaurant is like half of the cost of a ps5. Consoles are still bargains when it comes to entertainment.

 

[KaNesDeath]

Not sure what you mean. Do PC components die quickly?

No. For context a console generation will last roughly seven years. While Sony or Microsoft will release a upgraded spec version halfway into a generation, yet this isnt required. Those who play modern games on Pc require main component hardware upgrades in three to five year increments; thats CPU, RAM, motherboard and GPU mainly.

Since quarantine in 2020 the GPU retail market price has increased by a factor of three. Why that happened in 2020 is different to why its still happening today in 2025. Further elaborate, retail price of a modern day entry level GPU is at minimum 50% more expensive than what a entry level current generation console costs.

 

[GSP_37]

I'm guessing PS5 gets hotter faster than PS4.

I have a tiny USB powered Honeywell fan plugged into UPS's USB and that's blowing onto the PS4 when it's on or else I'll hear the PS4 fan running loud and it will be pretty hot. I also bought from Amazon a longer USB/audio(?) cable to better be able to position the fan since the cable it came with is short.

 

[deadshot138]

Reinstalled Call of Duty with my newfound expanded memory. All shipments on playlist.

 

[Madmick]

No. For context a console generation will last roughly seven years. While Sony or Microsoft will release a upgraded spec version halfway into a generation, yet this isnt required. Those who play modern games on Pc require main component hardware upgrades in three to five year increments; thats CPU, RAM, motherboard and GPU mainly.

Since quarantine in 2020 the GPU retail market price has increased by a factor of three. Why that happened in 2020 is different to why its still happening today in 2025. Further elaborate, retail price of a modern day entry level GPU is at minimum 50% more expensive than what a entry level current generation console costs.

A lot of this is wrong.

First, console lifespans have more frequently been 5-6 years (for the PS 6 years). The reason this is lengthening is because of the diminishing return on graphic improvement derived from hardware advancements, and in this most recent generation because software is rapidly becoming more significant to these graphic improvements. Although the latter truth is complicated by the fact some of these software enhancements are optimized by new hardware to accelerate/drive them.

Second, PC gamers do not require upgrades every 3-5 years. Because for the same reason as above hardware upgrades are becoming less urgent for PC buyers. I just showed you this in the other thread where I pointed out the RX 9070 XT today is averaging a 55% higher framerate at 1440p in current AAA games today than its predecessor did six years ago in AAA games available then. Because game requirements aren't really advancing that rapidly. The most demanding games in existence will still run on i5's and i7's from 10 years ago. None need RAM faster than the DDR4 baseline (2133MHz) that also began appearing in motherboards nearly 10 years ago. GPUs have the shortest lives, but even then, we're talking about a very specific market of blockbuster AAA games.

Third, LMFAO, an "entry level GPU" costing 50% more today than an "entry level console" is preposterous. That statement's absurdity is par with the level of idiocy you've been putting out in the Gaming Hardware thread the past few weeks. The bestselling console currently is the PS5, and the digital PS5 Slim is $449 at Best Buy right now. An entry level GPU does not cost $675. That's a mid-tier MSRP. Entry level GPUs are usually in the $175-$250 range these days.

 

[Croaker]

PC master race

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

remember the red ring of death? remember instead of buying a new xbox you could just wrap the xbox in a blanket, and turn it on to keep overheating it and that made it work again? or blowing into cartridges? the days where slapping shit was a real way to make technology work again lmao

 

[HereticBD]

remember the red ring of death? remember instead of buying a new xbox you could just wrap the xbox in a blanket, and turn it on to keep overheating it and that made it work again? or blowing into cartridges? the days where slapping shit was a real way to make technology work again lmao

I didn't buy shit, except for a very cheap $50 EB warranty on my initial machine that kept me flooded with brand new Xbox 360's for quite a while.

Seriously, that shit was insane. I think I ran through four of them. The first gen models were so bad. It's absolutely incredible that Xbox survived that shit. Tells you how good the games were on that system, that people actually put up with it. If that happened today with their new systems that have next to no exclusive games, they'd be dead.

 

[avenue94]

remember the red ring of death? remember instead of buying a new xbox you could just wrap the xbox in a blanket, and turn it on to keep overheating it and that made it work again? or blowing into cartridges? the days where slapping shit was a real way to make technology work again lmao

Kids these days don't understand putting peanut butter on your scratched 360 disc.

 

[PBAC]

I haven't trusted any hardware since my fat PS3 mysteriously broke down one week after the release of the PS3 slim

 

[KaNesDeath]

A lot of this is wrong.

Your own chart shows six, six, seven and finally seven year cycle. Sony executive last year even stated that the PS5 is halfway into its life cycle.

Individuals buying AMD newly launched GPU's are those who havent upgraded in that time frame; these are the new entry level GPU's. With Nvidia its muddier from them keeping consumer inventory perpetually low with drastically increased retail pricing. Just here in the states, AMD's non-XT and XT average retail price is 14% to 19% over MSRP. In Europe those percentages are much higher.

Price range you listed for an entry level GPU. Are bargain bin throwaway GPU card variants based off series released seven to five years ago; Nvidia 2060 and Nvidia 3050. GPU's no one here would recommend in 2025.

 

[Madmick]

Your own chart shows six, six, seven and finally seven year cycle. Sony executive last year even stated that the PS5 is halfway into its life cycle.

Meanwhile, there have been multiple 4-5 year lives between Nintendo, Xbox, Sega, and others. My use of "have" was putting this in the past tense. Sony declaring they are halfway through this console gen at 4 1/2 years out...do the math for me, LOL, does that double to 7? That's part of the lengthening lifespan I discussed. Remember, at the outset of this gen, both Microsoft and Sony said they wanted this gen to last 10 years, and they've repeated that since.

Individuals buying AMD newly launched GPU's are those who havent upgraded in that time frame; these are the new entry level GPU's. With Nvidia its muddier from them keeping consumer inventory perpetually low with drastically increased retail pricing. Just here in the states, AMD's non-XT and XT average retail price is 14% to 19% over MSRP. In Europe those percentages are much higher.

The RX 9070 XT isn't an entry level GPU, FFS. How are you this daft?

Historically both GPU makers have debuted new generations with a flagship-level card (ex. NVIDIA= RTX 5090, 4090, 3080 Ti, 2080, 1080, etc). Last generation AMD led with the RX 7900 XTX and 7900 XT. They later released the RX 7900 GRE, RX 7800 XT, RX 7700 XT, RX 7600 XT, and RX 7600.

You can even see the same damn roadmap with placeholders for leaked lower level cards on TPU's GPU database for this gen. If the RX 9070 is "entry level", then what the hell will the RX 9060 XT will be? Derp.

Price range you listed for an entry level GPU. Are bargain bin throwaway GPU card variants based off series released seven to five years ago; Nvidia 2060 and Nvidia 3050. GPU's no one here would recommend in 2025.

Holy meatballs you're bad at math. The RTX 30 series released in the summer of 2021. That's not 5-7 years ago.

Meanwhile, cards like the RX 7600 were selling for $249 at Best Buy as late as November of last year before our current supply crunch. Even at today's unattractive $309, guess what that isn't? That isn't 50% more than $449. Please, revisit elementary arithemetic. You need it.

 

[KaNesDeath]

The RTX 30 series released in the summer of 2021.

September of 2020.

If you want to continue this circular discussion another thread exists where we can continue.

 

[Madmick]

September of 2020.

If you want to continue this circular discussion another thread exists where we can continue.

Oh, excuse me, the 3080 arrived in September 2020, I misremembered off the top of my head. You've issued a correction that still leaves you incorrect. That isn't 5 years old.

Our discussion isn't circular. It's just you consistently being wrong about everything. If you want to run away, that's fine, it will show everyone you know you're wrong, I just didn't want your ignorant & warped viewpoint misleading the console guys. Otherwise, you're in desperate need of a response.

• How is the 9070 XT an "entry level" card when it represents the typical flagship debut, and subsequent discrete desktop GPUs from the same series always come in below this-- including models we already know are planned?
  
  
• If an entry level card costs $675, since the cost of a Console (PS5) + 50% = $675, how do you defend your statement when the RTX 4070 Super, RTX 4070, RTX 4060 Ti, RTX 4060, RX 7800 XT, RX 7700 XT, RX 7600 XT, and RX 7600 are all MSRP'd well below this. Why do you pretend those aren't entry level cards?
  
  
• How is the 9070 XT an "entry level" card when it is more powerful than 97.2% of gamer GPUs in the February 2025 Steam survey? Even if you adjusted this to only compare the most recent generation of hardware, it would still be in the top 10%. And it is ~60% more powerful in games than the RX 7700 XT which is the closest analogue (but still more powerful) desktop GPU to the PS5 Pro. A GPU that is <60% more powerful than the $700 premium console is "entry level"?

 

[Ladder Master]

My launch PS3 60gb lasted about 13 months and quit working.
Sony told me to pound sand. $600 paperweight.

 

[KaNesDeath]

How is the 9070 XT an "entry level" card when it represents the typical flagship debut,

A card that is supposed to MSRP at 60% the price of AMD's flagship GPU. That performs in excess of 34% worse than the 7900XTX and is priced/performs at the mid tier of their 7000 series GPU's. With a last generation Nvidia product line you listed that doesnt exist. Non-XT version that intentionally had its inventory reduced to up sell the XT version with a delayed launch to increase stock. This is why its directly positioned to be the entry level GPU.

 

[Madmick]

A card that is supposed to MSRP at 60% the price of AMD's flagship GPU. That performs in excess of 34% worse than the 7900XTX and is priced/performs at the mid tier of their 7000 series GPU's. With a last generation Nvidia product line you listed that doesnt exist. Non-XT version that intentionally had its inventory reduced to up sell the XT version with a delayed launch to increase stock. This is why its directly positioned to be the entry level GPU.

Truly you continue to put out the most ridiculous nonsense I've ever seen spoken about hardware on this board.

Spoiler

Graphics Card Comparison - Head 2 Head

AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT vs AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT - Benchmarks, Tests and Comparisons

www.notebookcheck.net

and

Best PC/Mac (Graphics) - December 2025

See the best PC/Mac (Graphics) ranked by performance.

benchmarks.ul.com

and

Because not even if your statements about performance were remotely close to accurate would it make them any less stupid. It's analogous to claiming the RTX 2080 was a mid-tier card because the Titan XP existed.

 

[Slobodan]

Truly you continue to put out the most ridiculous nonsense I've ever seen spoken about hardware on this board.

Spoiler

Graphics Card Comparison - Head 2 Head

AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT vs AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT - Benchmarks, Tests and Comparisons

www.notebookcheck.net

and

Best PC/Mac (Graphics) - December 2025

See the best PC/Mac (Graphics) ranked by performance.

benchmarks.ul.com

and

Because not even if your statements about performance were remotely close to accurate would it make them any less stupid. It's analogous to claiming the RTX 2080 was a mid-tier card because the Titan XP existed.

He is basing his performance claims solely on one game. Nothing else matters.