Television RIP John Redcorn

The Dark Knight said:
why would you say unsubstantiated things like that without proof?

He was the victim of a hate crime. His husband just posted this online
here is the news article as well https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...d-in-texas-shooting/articleshow/121580363.cms
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I mean, this is unsubstantiated too....
 
ColemanwastheGOAT said:
I mean, this is unsubstantiated too....
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he was there its first hand knowledge the cops were called 74 times over 2 yrs and their home burned down? their dead dogs body in effigy? alot of questions there https://www.newsweek.com/jonathan-joss-husband-says-fatal-shooting-was-homophobic-attack-2080115

Of course the police will deny any hate crime because that would mean in the 74 times they were called to the house , is then being burned down, their 2 dogs killed that just maybe the police didnt do their job... i can only imagine being gay in Texas of all states.. it seems like that wouldnt be a safe place to be gay
Joss' husband, Tristan Kern de Gonzales, said they were checking the mail at their former Texas home - which had been targeted in a previous arson attack - when they were approached by a man who "started yelling violent homophobic slurs at us."
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"He then raised a gun from his lap and fired,
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"Jonathan and I had no weapons. We were not threatening anyone. We were grieving. We were standing side by side. When the man fired, Jonathan pushed me out of the way. He saved my life."

Gonzales said in his post that he and his husband had been "harassed regularly by individuals who made it clear they did not accept our relationship," and that much of this harassment was "openly homophobic."

Ceja has been charged with first-degree felony murder, and his bond was set at $200,000.
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The Dark Knight said:
he was there its first hand knowledge the cops were called 74 times over 2 yrs and their home burned down? their dead dogs body in effigy? alot of questions there https://www.newsweek.com/jonathan-joss-husband-says-fatal-shooting-was-homophobic-attack-2080115
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Neighborly disputes are always tough to figure out because they usually start over something fairly minor but then escalate over years and years until both sides are acting like absolute lunatics.

I have seen too many of them to believe either side is 100% just innocent victims. It never happens like that.
 
ColemanwastheGOAT said:
Neighborly disputes are always tough to figure out because they usually start over something fairly minor but then escalate over years and years until both sides are acting like absolute lunatics.

I have seen too many of them to believe either side is 100% just innocent victims. It never happens like that.
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oh theres no doubt that Jonathan was a weird eccentric dude and im sure many of the arguments were definitely 2 sided.. it just seems really suspect that their home was burned down and the skull of his dog and leash were hung on the mailbox (according to his surviving spouse) .. I would be pretty upset too.
When i was younger my neighbor poisoned all the neighborhood cats (like 8) because they were "ruining" his garden and one of them crawled under my deck and cried and cried for like 12 hrs before it died and was horrifying. My sister and I were like 10 and 12. My dad and some of the other neighbors went to the guys house and beat the ever loving shit outta him and then left him on his grass bloody for the cops . I never saw him again and his family moved and sold the house.

I mean how many movies have been made where the heroes pet gets killed and then there an entire revenge arc? John wick made an entire series from it . I also remember Chuck Norris in "Lone wolf Mcquade" (amazing movie byw) where his his get killed by David Carradine or his goons and Chuck Norris burns them all down ..

They bury him alive in his Ram charger (which has a V8 with a supercharger) and he drinks a beer like a boss and drives right out like a boss


this where they got Walker Texas Ranger from i assume
 
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The Dark Knight said:
oh theres no doubt that Jonathan was a weird eccentric dude and im sure many of the arguments were definitely 2 sided.. it just seems really suspect that their home was burned down and the skull of his dog and leash were hung on the mailbox (according to his surviving spouse)
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People burn their own houses down all the time. It's a very common insurance scam.
 
syct23 said:
He was Native though,

We can’t afford do those white peoples crimes.. especially when in the middle of a well documented heated and aggressive relationship with athe neighbors..
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Maybe
 
This crime seems more like a robbery gone wrong possibly by a drug dealer who cased his house.
 
The Dark Knight said:
why would you say unsubstantiated things like that without proof?

He was the victim of a hate crime. His husband just posted this online
here is the news article as well https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...d-in-texas-shooting/articleshow/121580363.cms
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Well all of his neighbors hated him not just the guy who shot him because he was a nut and and had issues with addiction and was always starting things with people. The cops were always getting called to the area because of neighbors reporting him. His husband is also a biological woman who is half his age and likely never had a sex change operation. So the whole gay angle is a little weird and creepy. The woman he was with for many years before also says he was a very troubled and sometimes abusive emotionally and wasn't really surprised with how things turned out
 
So the police are now walking back the whole "It wasn't a hate crime" thing https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...ent-dismissing-possible-hate-crime-rcna211237

San Antonio police walk back statement dismissing possible hate crime in Jonathan Joss' shooting death​

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"Shouldn’t have done it. [It] was way too soon before we had real information, and I will own that," McManus said. “It was way too early in the process for any statement of that nature to be issued.”
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sounds like a mess, didn't know about the guy before any of this but I do know us Indians and honestly we've been through so much bullshit that most of us are at the very least half-crazy. I certainly am. Wouldn't surprise me if the guy cracked up.
 
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