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[Amerikuracana]

I don't where them cheating entered the facts of the matter.

"Pratt has fled the country and has been charged with additional counts of producing child pornography and child sex trafficking for coercing a 16-year-old into producing a video despite full knowledge of her age."

Yeah I'm going to side with the girls on this one.

Im sorry your experience with females obviously hasn't been as pleasant as mine but I think you should not blame them all.

Soooo they are off the hook for their actions because in an unrelated incident a scumbag illegally filmed a 16 year old? Put him in jail. Knowing the facts of the case or sitting in on the trial I could easily find legal grounds for the girls getting this money, but that's not really what we are talking about here, and what happens legally doesn't always have as much to do with "deserve" as you think..

 

[Oblivian]

30% is a lot. I am willing to believe it because it’s in line with my own experience. You do t have to, im not saying it is true or that you should accept it. I’m also not researching it right now, I’m on my phone on the shitter. 65% might even be true, but I don’t believe it and that source certainly didn’t do much to convince me.

I'd really love to see your 30% source. Even if that source does exist, it doesn't really help your argument at all. 30% is "a lot" according to you. My point from the beginning was that a lot of college students cheat. I could go on and on for the reasons this happens, but they should be obvious to anyone who went to college at a school that wasn't tiny. Do you really think most 18-22 year olds are looking for their marriage partner? They are getting into a relationship for companionship, sex, and the other benefits, but most are willing to jump ship pretty quickly and have their eyes open. You have kids getting outside of their bubble for the first time meeting others their age. The pool of potential partners is huge. Many will test the waters with others before breaking up, or they'll even just have something on the side because they are horny college students.

My point is that those in that age range should not expect much from their relationship. You are naive to do that. That's why I think it's hilarious that people are commenting like cheating at that age range is such a big deal. News flash - their relationship was very likely not a big deal.

 

[StotheQ]

I'm with @Blayt7hh Trying to justify cheating as ok is just lazy. don't be a douche.

 

[The Todd]

You put ANYTHING on the net and that shit might come back to haunt you!

There's girls who are not even "instagram models" who put half naked photos up publicly!

I don't feel sorry for these girls at all. What were they thinking!!

If anything I think they should be fined for being so stupid!

Seems to me they are not so stupid after all.

 

[Oblivian]

I'm with @Blayt7hh Trying to justify cheating as ok is just lazy. don't be a douche.

Saying "cheating is never ok" is a valid opinion and point, but acting as though it's not common is a completely different subject. Even off of his bogus and likely low number of 30%, that's still a lot even according to him. People should know this going into a relationship at that age, and they shouldn't act like the world is ending if they are cheated on. I don't really know how a stranger from the outside looking in can think it's a huge deal. Does it suck for that person? Probably, but given the #'s, it's pretty likely they've done it to someone else or have friends who've done it. Let's not act like any young person who has cheated deserves to be hung.

 

[moreorless87]

Saying "cheating is never ok" is a valid opinion and point, but acting as though it's not common is a completely different subject. Even off of his bogus and likely low number of 30%, that's still a lot even according to him. People should know this going into a relationship at that age, and they shouldn't act like the world is ending if they are cheated on. I don't really know how a stranger from the outside looking in can think it's a huge deal. Does it suck for that person? Probably, but given the #'s, it's pretty likely they've done it to someone else or have friends who've done it. Let's not act like any young person who has cheated deserves to be hung.

The real issue I'd say is that you have evidence that people acted in a very unpleasant and exploitative towards these women yet certain people seem only interested in the idea the women were cheating, how does that reflect on them?

 

[Oblivian]

The real issue I'd say is that you have evidence that people acted in a very unpleasant and exploitative towards these women yet certain people seem only interested in the idea the women were cheating, how does that reflect on them?

Well for one, each of those actions are independent of each other. Yet people are simple and try to equate them together, and then even take it to the next step acting as though both are close to equal. As you can see by other responses on here, some people are either completely ignorant on people cheating in that age range or they are jaded from being cheated on. It's just a fact - it's common for college kids and people that age to cheat. I think anyone who thinks someone cheating at that age is a huge deal and anyone who cheats at that age deserves whatever is coming to them is soft and ignorant. There is a very high chance that someone they are friends with, a family member, or even someone they love that has cheated at that age.

 

[StotheQ]

Saying "cheating is never ok" is a valid opinion and point, but acting as though it's not common is a completely different subject. Even off of his bogus and likely low number of 30%, that's still a lot even according to him. People should know this going into a relationship at that age, and they shouldn't act like the world is ending if they are cheated on. I don't really know how a stranger from the outside looking in can think it's a huge deal. Does it suck for that person? Probably, but given the #'s, it's pretty likely they've done it to someone else or have friends who've done it. Let's not act like any young person who has cheated deserves to be hung.

Fair point that people do it. but it feels like you are trying to trivialize it. its a bigger deal than you are making it to be. in my circles, if a buddy cheats on someone, fuck him or her. They are setting a bad example for the rest of my friends and my kids. I don't have time for that shit. most of my friends feel the same way.

 

[Blayt7hh]

Saying "cheating is never ok" is a valid opinion and point, but acting as though it's not common is a completely different subject. Even off of his bogus and likely low number of 30%, that's still a lot even according to him. People should know this going into a relationship at that age, and they shouldn't act like the world is ending if they are cheated on. I don't really know how a stranger from the outside looking in can think it's a huge deal. Does it suck for that person? Probably, but given the #'s, it's pretty likely they've done it to someone else or have friends who've done it. Let's not act like any young person who has cheated deserves to be hung.

The 30% number comes from estimates of men in women in marraiges:men cheating at 20% rate and women cheating at 13%, so actually 33%. Doing the five minutes of work I am willing to put in on google, I actually haven't found a single study that covers cheating in college aged relationships. The only thing I've seen is the one you've linked, which is and article on some website I've never heard of called huffpost referencing and article that when I click on the link they provided... doesn't seem to exist. So at best in this argument, we are both wrong with maybe you learning a lesson about how naive you are when it comes what sources you trust on the internet

As far as how serious the infidelity is, I don't think it really needs to be pointed out that if we are talking about some 3 week old relationship where one person cheats and then breaks it off isn't really that serious. But once a relationship is serious, cheating is a horrible thing to do to someone. You can really hurt someone by doing it. Calling them "soft and weak" for it is just making excuses for the perpetrator and it's victim blaming.

Where did I say they should be hung? I said they're shitty people. Yeah, I believe that their circle of friends ostracizing them is fair and legitimate punishment. And in all honesty, even though I haven't really sat around thinking about it to much, I kind of believe that people committing adultery maybe should be a jailable offense. Doxxing these women to everyone they knew is maybe a little dark, but if they had simply emailed their boyfriends/fiances and let them know.... I don't really have a problem with that either.

I also realize that people change. I am not meaning to say that someone who cheated 10 years ago when they are 21 should still be a social outcast or that I would even think of them as a shitty person. But at the time of the action, they are and they have to live with the consequences of that.

Fair point that people do it. but it feels like you are trying to trivialize it. its a bigger deal than you are making it to be. in my circles, if a buddy cheats on someone, fuck him or her. They are setting a bad example for the rest of my friends and my kids. I don't have time for that shit. most of my friends feel the same way.

This is exactly why I responded in the first place, though I probably could have done a better job in the beginning. You know what else was once fairly common? Domestic abuse. Everybody doing it doesn't make it forgivable.

Furthermore, @Oblivian you are making light of what these women did. They didn't get drunk at a college party and mess up. They contacted someone over the internet, flew out there, and fucked someone for money while in a relationship. I am willing to be that the number of people doing that is very small.

The real issue I'd say is that you have evidence that people acted in a very unpleasant and exploitative towards these women yet certain people seem only interested in the idea the women were cheating, how does that reflect on them?

I don't know if you're referring to me or not, but I've said from my very first post I was glad the guys in this racket lost the lawsuit. They sound like awful people. Just like I think it was incredibly shitty of those women to go on their and talk about how they had boyfriends or fiances before getting fucked, I think the man in that situation is also a piece of shit for knowingly fucking someone's significant other. These guys are scum and most of these women are ho's. Is what it is

 

[HeffDoesWant]

Soooo they are off the hook for their actions because in an unrelated incident a scumbag illegally filmed a 16 year old? Put him in jail. Knowing the facts of the case or sitting in on the trial I could easily find legal grounds for the girls getting this money, but that's not really what we are talking about here, and what happens legally doesn't always have as much to do with "deserve" as you think..

What actions?
They had an agreement, he violated the agreement. He got sued and lost.

Im not sure which quote is more relevant,
None so blind as he who refuses to see.
You can't wake up someone who is pretending to be asleep.

 

[Amerikuracana]

What actions?
They had an agreement, he violated the agreement. He got sued and lost.

Im not sure which quote is more relevant,
None so blind as he who refuses to see.
You can't wake up someone who is pretending to be asleep.

 

[Oblivian]

The 30% number comes from estimates of men in women in marraiges:men cheating at 20% rate and women cheating at 13%, so actually 33%. Doing the five minutes of work I am willing to put in on google, I actually haven't found a single study that covers cheating in college aged relationships. The only thing I've seen is the one you've linked, which is and article on some website I've never heard of called huffpost referencing and article that when I click on the link they provided... doesn't seem to exist. So at best in this argument, we are both wrong with maybe you learning a lesson about how naive you are when it comes what sources you trust on the internet

As far as how serious the infidelity is, I don't think it really needs to be pointed out that if we are talking about some 3 week old relationship where one person cheats and then breaks it off isn't really that serious. But once a relationship is serious, cheating is a horrible thing to do to someone. You can really hurt someone by doing it. Calling them "soft and weak" for it is just making excuses for the perpetrator and it's victim blaming.

Where did I say they should be hung? I said they're shitty people. Yeah, I believe that their circle of friends ostracizing them is fair and legitimate punishment. And in all honesty, even though I haven't really sat around thinking about it to much, I kind of believe that people committing adultery maybe should be a jailable offense. Doxxing these women to everyone they knew is maybe a little dark, but if they had simply emailed their boyfriends/fiances and let them know.... I don't really have a problem with that either.

I also realize that people change. I am not meaning to say that someone who cheated 10 years ago when they are 21 should still be a social outcast or that I would even think of them as a shitty person. But at the time of the action, they are and they have to live with the consequences of that.


This is exactly why I responded in the first place, though I probably could have done a better job in the beginning. You know what else was once fairly common? Domestic abuse. Everybody doing it doesn't make it forgivable.

Furthermore, @Oblivian you are making light of what these women did. They didn't get drunk at a college party and mess up. They contacted someone over the internet, flew out there, and fucked someone for money while in a relationship. I am willing to be that the number of people doing that is very small.



I don't know if you're referring to me or not, but I've said from my very first post I was glad the guys in this racket lost the lawsuit. They sound like awful people. Just like I think it was incredibly shitty of those women to go on their and talk about how they had boyfriends or fiances before getting fucked, I think the man in that situation is also a piece of shit for knowingly fucking someone's significant other. These guys are scum and most of these women are ho's. Is what it is

Didn't you say that you saw 30% in regards to unmarried college aged kids? Now your # is based off of MARRIED which obviously is going to be a lower # due to the commitment of marriage. Any rational person should be able to admit at this point that the # is higher than what you thought at 30%. You can question the validity of my source, but what is the motivation of that source to lie about the study? I saw John Tesh also referenced 75% on one of his blogs, and again, where would his motivation be? It is obviously "a lot", as you even admitted 30% is "a lot". I'd be shocked if the # is not higher than 50% on most college campuses.

Am I minimizing what the girls did? No, you need to read my posts. I followed this from the original thread. I think the girls are dumbasses. Am I minimizing them cheating? It depends on the observer. I'm probably minimizing to the people like you are that underestimate how common cheating is at that age. Does that mean I'm excusing cheating for these people? Of course not. What I am saying is that this shouldn't be an earth shattering event for the guys cheated on. And what I'm really poking fun of is the posters on this forum who harp on the cheating on the boyfriends acting as if they have suffered huge damages. You really think most of them were in some intense, committed relationship with these girls? If they were, they were suckers just like a large % of other college aged kids - both boys and girls. As you can see by my other posts - I don't think many should be getting in serious relationships at that age nor expect much from it.

In conclusion, I'm saying fuck GDP and they got what they deserve, the girls were dumbasses and must deal with the consequences, and the boyfriends are in a shitty situation, but nothing unusual. I certainly don't think the girls cheating has any relevance to this case or the judgment, and I laugh at the internet white knights fighting for the boyfriends' being cheated on. The cheating is not even in the ballpark of severity of what is going on in the court case. The white knighting for the guys just shows how clueless some people are on infidelity for late teens/early twenties or they have some personal experience with cheating that they can't get over.