International Riot in Sweden.

[goldennirvana]

Its not nonsense, hooliganism is about fighting football rivals, you don't see milan tifosi stabbing random people, throwing acid and stealing. It has nothing to do with the violence of muslim immigration, the knife crime it has brought to Europe.

You are free to shift the blame, I'm done with this thread

He's well aware, but he knows what's on the line so he's never going to admit he's wrong. He can't. None of them can, because their sworn enemy will win the greatest victory otherwise.

Deflections, lies & manipulation. It's all they have.

 

[DespicablePeep]

Again that wasn’t the point. It was about riots not knife crime or acid throwings. And I didn’t bring the comparison up, someone else did, I just corrected your false claim about hooliganism. And stealing? Hooligans are notorious for raiding gaspump stations during their away trips. You clearly don’t know much about hooligan culture, which is fine just don’t try to act like you do.

I have followed football all my life, used to watch 3/4 games on the weekend. I'm european btw you clear just want to knit pick an argument to scape the main point of the thread, which nobody can defend.

Sweden has no hooligan issue. Stay on topic

 

[DespicablePeep]

He's well aware, but he knows what's on the line so he's never going to admit he's wrong. He can't. None of them can, because their sworn enemy will win the greatest victory otherwise.

Deflections, lies & manipulation. It's all they have.

They need to change the topic to have a leg to stand. Its pathetic

 

[So Fresh]

Where's the Dutch empire now you dimwit?

It’s obv a historical example, even the simplest things are hard to grasp for you.

The Dutch empire had slavery. Why not mention that?

because it’s irrelevant.

Empire is, by its very definition, diverse. Saying 'this empire was diverse' is like saying water is wet. You look so stupid and you don't realise it. The problem you're having is, this diversity wasn't based on large scale immigration. You are such a lying turd.

It was tho. And the definition of an empire isn’t under debate here. The effects of diversity in this empire are. Especially for the dutch, the effects of “mass immigration” led to them becoming the dominant empire.

Yes, the more diverse a country becomes, the weaker it becomes. That's a fact. If diversity was truly a strength, you'd see every single country on the planet opening up their borders, removing immigration restrictions and just allowing as many immigrants in as possible. Obviously that's not happening, because people overwhelmingly know diversity is a weakness.

If it’s a fact then you can proof it right? Show me then. And no, countries not opening up their border isn’t proof.

Empire leads to weakness you fool. Name all the empires that existed throughout history and we'll see which ones still exist. Christ you're even dumber than I thought. And when an empire breaks up, there's a reason why they break up along ethnic/religious lines.

are you really this ignorant? Your lack of historical skills is saddening. Those empires not existing today says nothing about their strength during their reign. That being said, empires fell due to multiple reasons and “more diversity” mostly wasn’t one of them, instead it was repression and suppression which often led to problems.

Neither does the diversity you're talking about (empire) have anything to do with large scale immigration. This topic is about diversity which is brought about via mass immigration. That is, without a shadow of a doubt, a weakness, as I've demonstrated above.

Again it was. And you haven’t demonstrated anything. You’re trying to prove things with fallacies which isn’t gonna work.

Hahahaha... "conflicts", eh? That proves it - you're a Turk. I've argued with Turks before about this subject and they always make out that these genocides were just simple conflicts where both Turks and Armenians, Greeks & Assyrians died. No. They were genocidal massacres, committed by Muslims, against Christian populations living under the Ottoman empire. And you brought the Ottoman empire up as proof that 'diversity is a strength'? You actually thought that STRENGTHENED your argument? REALLY? Absolutely fucking comical.

First im german now im turkish? Make up your mind

Carry on humiliating yourself. I barely even need to reply, you're so dense you just destroy yourself. LOL

Actually I’m schooling you, next lesson I’m gonna charge you.

O, and.. maybe read something about fallacies, because your discussion skills are horrible.

 

[So Fresh]

I have followed football all my life, used to watch 3/4 games on the weekend. I'm european btw you clear just want to knit pick an argument to scape the main point of the thread, which nobody can defend.

Sweden has no hooligan issue. Stay on topic

Well then it proves following football doesn’t mean you know something about hooligan culture. But to keep it on your initial topic about riots: hooligans rioting is the same as immigrants rioting, because, surprise: they are both rioting.

 

[ElKarlo]

No it’s not that, I’m just not brainwashed by right wing media, so I’m not really worried about those issues. There are far more important issues to worry about right now.

You’re just a brain washed fool that believes in the kindness of strangers and thinks everything is ok, even when it clearly is not.

 

[So Fresh]

They need to change the topic to have a leg to stand. Its pathetic

I didn’t change the topic. You were saying hooligans don’t riot. I corrected you, it was clearly a topic YOU were speaking about.

 

[ElKarlo]

I guess no one likes riots but riots by brown people and riots by whites are seen very differently, certainly here in the WR.

How many whites people riots are there?

 

[ElKarlo]

It’s obv a historical example, even the simplest things are hard to grasp for you.
because it’s irrelevant.


It was tho. And the definition of an empire isn’t under debate here. The effects of diversity in this empire are. Especially for the dutch, the effects of “mass immigration” led to them becoming the dominant empire.


If it’s a fact then you can proof it right? Show me then. And no, countries not opening up their border isn’t proof.


are you really this ignorant? Your lack of historical skills is saddening. Those empires not existing today says nothing about their strength during their reign. That being said, empires fell due to multiple reasons and “more diversity” mostly wasn’t one of them, instead it was repression and suppression which often led to problems.


Again it was. And you haven’t demonstrated anything. You’re trying to prove things with fallacies which isn’t gonna work.


First im german now im turkish? Make up your mind


Actually I’m schooling you, next lesson I’m gonna charge you.

O, and.. maybe read something about fallacies, because your discussion skills are horrible.

Lol what a laundry list of crap takes. The Dutch were taking in fellow Protestants that shared the same culture and values. Your example is crap and upon any investigation shows you don’t know how to make a decent example
Only schooling you’re doing is where you go to derp school

 

[So Fresh]

You’re just a brain washed fool that believes in the kindness of strangers and thinks everything is ok, even when it clearly is not.

What is it with you right wingers and reading? Holy shit.

I literally said: I THINK THERE ARE MORE IMPORTANT ISSUES TO WORRY ABOUT

How is that thinking that everything is okay

 

[ElKarlo]

What is it with you right wingers and reading? Holy shit.

I literally said: I THINK THERE ARE MORE IMPORTANT ISSUES TO WORRY ABOUT

How is that thinking that everything is okay

Dodge duly noted

 

[Halge]

Can you people try not to derail this thread completely? There are more quran burnings scheduled on Paludan's Sweden tour in the next couple of days, and I kinda want the thread to not be wastelanded until we see how they turn out.

 

[So Fresh]

Lol what a laundry list of crap takes. The Dutch were taking in fellow Protestants that shared the same culture and values. Your example is crap and upon any investigation shows you don’t know how to make a decent example
Only schooling you’re doing is where you go to derp school

They didn’t have the same culture and values as there were actually culture clashes/ shocks between both cultures

And you know what’s funny, guess what happened to the cities the fled from? They collapsed.

 

[So Fresh]

Can you people try not to disrail this thread completely? There are more quran burnings scheduled on Paludan's Sweden tour in the next couple of days, and I kinda want the thread to not be wastelanded until we see how they turn out.

Depends if you’re gonna share more of those wildly exciting video’s?

 

[Islam Imamate]

How many whites people riots are there?

Did you read my posts? I mention the football hooligan riots as well as French labor riots. Here's a riot by Corsican nationalists just this week. Why are they rioting? Because a political assassin for their cause was beaten into a coma in prison. So they're rioting over a literal terrorist

 

[PainIsLIfe]

How many whites people riots are there?

<{CMPALM}>
Recently - Jan 6th for starters, Yellow Vest in France.

Historically in the US - Tulsa riots, NYC draft riots, Detroit race riots, Rosewood, San Francisco zoot suit riots. None of which were kind to brown people.

 

[Islam Imamate]

<{CMPALM}>
Recently - Jan 6th for starters, Yellow Vest in France.

Historically in the US - Tulsa riots, NYC draft riots, Detroit race riots, Rosewood, San Francisco zoot suit riots. None of which were kind to brown people.

Way better than my response, bravo. Actually I was going to mention Jan 6th but you know, decided against it haha.

 

[SanchoMF]

Do you have trouble reading or do you misunderstand what I say on purpose? I never said there are NO problems, I said the problems are not what the right wing make it out to be.
And it’s funny you mention hand grenade attacks:

Spoiler

Sweden's most renowned criminologist Leif GW Persson considers right-wing extremism a possible motive for many of the bombings. Excluding attacks clearly related to gang conflicts, a large number of the bombings have caused no injuries and seem to be mostly for show. Persson considers this an indication that they may be committed by people trying to sway public opinion against immigrants and for a hardline policy against crime.

Tens of thousands on a population of 10 million is “massive” lol, that’s 1%

Most crime is in poor area’s. Who live in poor area’s? Immigrants. So yeah socioeconomic problems are considered the root of these problems

Problems with immigrants doesn’t mean it failed. Why don’t you stop getting influenced by right wing media. Difference in crime rate with other countries is mainly due to difference in documentation and research shows that there is no base for increase in crime due to immigration.

Well there you have it: bad policy

Uhm no, you brought it up that they were coming from living in poor conditions


Again that’s your right wing media brainwashed bias speaking. Most crime committed by immigrants are committed by second generation immigrants not new comers.

It must be hard being on that cope all day long.
You're saying "some problems" as it were a minor detail, but in fact the violence is on a level never seen in the country before.
Persson? LOL : It really doesn't matter what some old, drunkard, wannabe-celebrity says by trying to hang onto relevancy : the grenades and shootings in today's Sweden are done by ethnic gangs.
Yeah, great find my friend !

And I see you're not really good in math, since you're incapable of factoring in annual growth in percentage (one percent per year is nothing) 1/4th of the country has become foreign in twenty+ years : I'd say that is quite dramatic in no matter which way you're looking at it. And additionally only between 2014-2016 we're talking about +100K per year.
These vague socioeconomic problems you're talking about are all CAUSED by the immigration and it really is not up to the tax payer to all of a sudden pay for the housing for hundreds of thousands of ungrateful people, travelling thousands of kilometres to suck on the big fat welfare titties of the North.
In regards to crime, every European country will show you that there's a proportional overrepresentation of immigrants in the crime-statistics and what you're saying about 2nd and 3rd generation makes the situation even worse : thanks to mass-immigration there's now an ethnic underclass that consists of really bad culture and now again in France for example, the newcomers are following the same criminal path because the lawlessness is amplified.
The Swedish society has bent over backwards to host these masses but for some reason they seem to think that the most suitable way to repay the kindness is to destroy permanently destroy the country.
The only bad policy here is the utter naiveness of the Swedish politicians, the established media and the ridiculous ostrich-syndrome that it created and from which you're suffering from.
You really don't want to see the forest from the trees or you simply don't care about the well-being of your country.

 

[SanchoMF]

Did you read my posts? I mention the football hooligan riots as well as French labor riots. Here's a riot by Corsican nationalists just this week. Why are they rioting? Because a political assassin for their cause was beaten into a coma in prison. So they're rioting over a literal terrorist

He died actually. And the guy was a piece of shit terrorist, actually both Colonna and the guy who beat him.
FLNC, ETA and IRA are all trash.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Swedish Conditions.



Go to Norway instead. There's maybe less to do depending on what people looking for but it's prettier, even capital Oslo is still nice outside of the Groruddalen and Stovner areas on eastern side. Bergen on the west coast is even better and my fave city in the country.

i definitely want to go to Helvete. i don't know if you're a BM fan, but i am and want to take a picture in that shitty basement.