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Ring Mag makes a top 100 all time fighters list and it's... interesting

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1 Sugar Ray Robinson
2 Joe Louis
3 Muhammad Ali
4 Tony Canzoneri
5 Emile Griffith
6 Floyd Mayweather
7 Willie Pep
8 Ezzard Charles
9 Manny Pacquiao
10 Archie Moore
11 Julio Cesar Chavez
12 Bernard Hopkins
13 Jimmy McLarnin
14 Roy Jones Jr.
15 Jose Napoles
16 Pernell Whitaker
17 Henry Armstrong
18 Ike Williams
19 Sugar Ray Leonard
20 Evander Holyfield
21 Carlos Ortiz
22 Alexis Arguello
23 Marvin Hagler
24 Young Corbett III
25 Sammy Angott
26 Carlos Monzon
27 Oscar De La Hoya
28 Bily Conn
29 Harold Johnson
30 Dick Tiger
31 Larry Holmes
32 Jake LaMotta
33 Roberto Duran
34 Barney Ross
35 Kid Chocolate
36 Thomas Hearns
37 Canelo Alvarez
38 Louis Kaplan
39 Eder Jofre
40 Beau Jack
41 Michael Spinks
42 Lennox Lewis
43 Ismael Laguna
44 Floyd Patterson
45 Mickey Walker
46 Bob Foster
47 Jimmy Bivins
48 Peter Kane
49 Azumah Nelson
50 Vicente Saldivar
51 Jackie Fields
52 Wilfredo Gomez
53 Gene Fullmer
54 Rocky Marciano
55 Mike Tyson
56 Jack Berg
57 Shane Mosley
58 Wladimir Klitschko
59 Lou Ambers
60 Bobo Olson
61 Nonito Donaire
62 Felix Trinidad
63 Gennadiy Golovkin
64 Jack Sharkey
65 Kostya Tszyu
66 Pone Kingpetch
67 Benny Lynch
68 Ruben Olivares
69 Manuel Ortiz
70 Maxie Rosenbloom
71 Tommy Loughran
72 Kid Gavilan
73 Pascual Perez
74 Salvador Sanchez
75 Naseem Hamed
76 Harry Greb
77 Marco Antonio Barrera
78 Antonio Cervantes
79 Joe Frazie
80 Aaron Pryor
81 Esteban De Jesus
82 Donald Curry
83 Roman Gonzalez
84 Andre Ward
85 Erik Morales
86 Naoya Inoue
87 Juan Manuel Marquez
88 Antonio Tarver
89 James Toney
90 Terence Crawford
91 Mike McCallum
92 Carmen Basilio
93 Lou Salica
94 Wilfred Benitez
95 Joe Calzaghe
96 John Henry Lewis
97 Jose Torres
98 Gus Lesnevich
99 Lou Brouillard
100 Fidel LaBarba
 
note: this is based on a formula using Ring Magazine's historical top ten divisional rankings, it is not a subjective list (IE: a win Knockout CP Freshmart over Vic Saludar is given the same point score as Terence Crawford beating Vergil Ortiz Jr, as both Saludar and Ortiz Jr are fifth ranked in their respective divisions).

this leaves a lot of holes in the data itself, but figured I'd leave an explanation of hte methodology
 
Finito not there and Marciano over 59 while Floyd’s padded bullshit champ record (and a victory over Conor mcgregors fantastic 0-0 boxing record at the time) which got him to 50-0.

Whatever but this list is crazy, I will say this, good on them for putting Hopkins ahead of Roy Jones
 
Interesting to say the least

Benitez all the way at the bottom, no Ricardo Lopez???
 
BoxingMMA said:
Finito not there and Marciano over 59 while Floyd’s padded bullshit champ record (and a victory over Conor mcgregors fantastic 0-0 boxing record at the time) which got him to 50-0.

Whatever but this list is crazy, I will say this, good on them for putting Hopkins ahead of Roy Jones
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These lists always cause arguments. I remember the SI greatest sports figures of the last 50 years and Wilt Chamberlain wasn't on it, perhaps the greatest all around athlete ever and not a mention. Makes you wonder who the hell comes up with this shit. Bias affects anything, even the "objective".
 
ironfist05 said:
1 Sugar Ray Robinson
2 Joe Louis
3 Muhammad Ali
4 Tony Canzoneri
5 Emile Griffith
6 Floyd Mayweather
7 Willie Pep
8 Ezzard Charles
9 Manny Pacquiao
10 Archie Moore
11 Julio Cesar Chavez
12 Bernard Hopkins
13 Jimmy McLarnin
14 Roy Jones Jr.
15 Jose Napoles
16 Pernell Whitaker
17 Henry Armstrong
18 Ike Williams
19 Sugar Ray Leonard
20 Evander Holyfield
21 Carlos Ortiz
22 Alexis Arguello
23 Marvin Hagler
24 Young Corbett III
25 Sammy Angott
26 Carlos Monzon
27 Oscar De La Hoya
28 Bily Conn
29 Harold Johnson
30 Dick Tiger
31 Larry Holmes
32 Jake LaMotta
33 Roberto Duran
34 Barney Ross
35 Kid Chocolate
36 Thomas Hearns
37 Canelo Alvarez
38 Louis Kaplan
39 Eder Jofre
40 Beau Jack
41 Michael Spinks
42 Lennox Lewis
43 Ismael Laguna
44 Floyd Patterson
45 Mickey Walker
46 Bob Foster
47 Jimmy Bivins
48 Peter Kane
49 Azumah Nelson
50 Vicente Saldivar
51 Jackie Fields
52 Wilfredo Gomez
53 Gene Fullmer
54 Rocky Marciano
55 Mike Tyson
56 Jack Berg
57 Shane Mosley
58 Wladimir Klitschko
59 Lou Ambers
60 Bobo Olson
61 Nonito Donaire
62 Felix Trinidad
63 Gennadiy Golovkin
64 Jack Sharkey
65 Kostya Tszyu
66 Pone Kingpetch
67 Benny Lynch
68 Ruben Olivares
69 Manuel Ortiz
70 Maxie Rosenbloom
71 Tommy Loughran
72 Kid Gavilan
73 Pascual Perez
74 Salvador Sanchez
75 Naseem Hamed
76 Harry Greb
77 Marco Antonio Barrera
78 Antonio Cervantes
79 Joe Frazie
80 Aaron Pryor
81 Esteban De Jesus
82 Donald Curry
83 Roman Gonzalez
84 Andre Ward
85 Erik Morales
86 Naoya Inoue
87 Juan Manuel Marquez
88 Antonio Tarver
89 James Toney
90 Terence Crawford
91 Mike McCallum
92 Carmen Basilio
93 Lou Salica
94 Wilfred Benitez
95 Joe Calzaghe
96 John Henry Lewis
97 Jose Torres
98 Gus Lesnevich
99 Lou Brouillard
100 Fidel LaBarba
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ring magazine hasn't been relevant for well over 20 years now.
 
brundlefly said:
ring magazine hasn't been relevant for well over 20 years now.
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hasn't been relevant to me since Delahoya bought it, was obvious that there wasn't going to be any real thought going on after that.
 
You should edit the OP to indicate right at the very top that this is an algorithm based list, that will save a lot of confusion and arguing.
 
TEXASMOJO said:
How did Ricardo el finito López not make it?
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IIRC the junior divisions (especially the lower weights like 108 and 105) basically didn’t have rankings for a large part of Finitos reign, and to the degree that fighters in those divisions were ranked, they were merged into the 112 lbs rankings. That’s probably why you don’t see guys like Carbajal or Chang or Yuh or Galaxy or Chiquita or Zapata ranked. It’s a massive blind spot with the data
 
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