Reverse Omoplata

[swiftman]

I think i remember my instructor showing this move in a 'too dangerous to train' context. He said that someone in competitions in Brazil was doing it but instead of being controlled he was just rolling hard and popping peoples shoulders deliberatly.

 

[Stephan Kesting]

I pity the man at the receiving end of a reverse omo plata roll when the guy applying it is starting in a starting position: it will be difficult to control how powerfully it is applied and could really end up hurting the recipient's shoulder.

BE CAREFUL WITH THIS MOVE!! I have seen at least one shoulder get dislocated with it

Stephan Kesting
www.grapplearts.com

 

[colinm]

Fun Fact:

You can use the reverse omoplata to counter the backroll sweep. Here's the sweep:

http://bjj.org/techniques/thetechniques/renzoCounterPass/

The standing guy can roll forward for the reverse omoplata at about this point:

The More Your Know.

 

[Aesopian]

I think that is the star sweep.

1) Are you talking about when you're still chest-to-back, or after you've rolled?

2) Grabbing the elbow is good too. Lagarto does this in 101 Submissions:

Glad to see that at least someone is getting a kick out of the reverse omoplata. :wink:

 

[Aesopian]

I went through hundreds of photos this weekend and posted them online for my school. What I found funny is how many reverse omoplatas I found Eduardo doing at random. Check it out, they get older and older:

Each of these photos is at least a year apart.

I created a special gallery dedicated to them:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tampabjj/tags/reverseomoplata/

 

[Aesopian]

Bump for colinm!

 

[Aesopian]

I was watching the 3 Dimensions of Shaolin last week, and he shows a no-gi reverse omoplata on the second disc. He uses a setup similar to the I do (pinning the arm while passing guard and flipping them over all fours), but he doesn't step over the arm to trap it first--he just pins it with his knee and gets the crucifix (which is the start of the reverse omoplata) after the flip.

I do this sometimes, and it was the original way I did this move, but I found I was having too much trouble getting their arm into the right place for the crucifix. If you pin with the knee and have trouble getting the crucifix you can always switch to taking the back (like Marcelo shows in his second set) or just start playing a harness game.

It can also be hard to step over the arm to trap it (like in my setup) so both ways have pros and cons, and you should just go with what you can get.

 

[colinm]

recently ive been screwing around with transitioning to odd-angled triangles from this thing. ive been getting from this to the back triangle pretty frequently, and i've got a couple good submissions from the back triangle (kimura variation, a neck crank, a couple "hugging" armbars, and like pec-tear/armbar thing - some wild shit). ill post a thread with pics when i have the time...im in the middle of finals this week and won't have the time to train/take pictures.

oh yeah, and pe de pano finishes john hanney with a reverse omoplata in the pan ams 2003.

 

[Aesopian]

Thread resurrection!

Nino vs Margarida, with its famous flying reverse omoplata:

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[Sherdog_Mutt]

Man that was a sweet match. I remember the first time I saw the video... my jaw hit the floor when I saw the flying reverse omoplata.

I wish we would see more of Nino in sport BJJ again. His game is beautiful to watch.

 

[Cameron]

i got a grappling newsletter from grapplearts.com about taht and they have a prity good instuctional on their website. one thing i have never seen this used im competition it looks hard.