Rev. Jim Bakker: "There will be a Civil War if Trump is impeached."

AVX said:
While this is true, we also realize CNN is simply a branch of the DNC at this point. This past election has pulled the wool off of a lot of Americans eyes when it comes to how the media spins everything according to whatever agenda they are backing. The media would largely support an impeachment for the simple fact that they are losing the battle to control the narrative and President Trump is the root cause of them losing that power. He's done nothing illegal and in fact is simply enforcing the laws which have been ignored by politicians on both sides for political positioning. The GOP is being replaced and the DNC is about to lose their shirt if they don't reform soon. The problem they have is that their base is now full of Socialists, so you are damn right a Civil War will be coming if the Alt-Left tries to grab power by political witch hunt. In fact a Civil War would be necessary if the Left truly wants to push out Capitalism in favor of some Marxist/Socialist/Communist ideology. I don't know if the right is ready for that response, but it seems the far Left is ready to instigate it.
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Hope it goes better for the right than it has at just about every protest there has been since Trump was elected.
 
The NRA keeps telling me that all those folks who possess guns legally are upstanding citizens. Why would they get all uppity if Trump was impeached by a (at this moment) Republican controlled Congress?
 
lol could you imagine the Trump supporters trying to organize a civil war? They have about 6 college degrees among them.
 
Palis said:
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Morans EVERYWHERE
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Wow... Fell for the setup and then the delivery hook, line and sinker. Trumpers are not smart
 
bobgeese said:
Face it, Trumps the least crooked guy in Washington.
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If President Trump is the least crooked person in Washington, it's simply because he hasn't even been there for a year. He had been sued over 130 times before the end of May since his inauguration. For comparison, that's almost 3x as many as President Obama, President Bush Jr, and President Clinton combined at the same point in their presidency.

President Trump is one of the most crooked businessmen to come out of NYC. He has been involved in over 3,500 lawsuits in his business career. He's been sued for straight up fraudulent practices. He started a "university" which was a complete fraud. He's fucked over countless investors and contractors. He's so unreliable with paying back loans that he was forced to go to Russia for money because banks wouldn't loan him money. In fact in 2004 he lied to Deutsche Bank while seeking a loan claiming he was worth $3.5 billion. They did an audit and found that he was "only" worth $788 million. After they agreed to loan him the money (After personally guaranteeing $40 million), he later defaulted on the loan.

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/10/28/donald-trump-business-busts-victims-511034.html

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/08/12/donald-trumps-business-failures-election-2016-486091.html

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/donald-trump-scandals/474726/

He has serious ties to both American and Russian mobs. He has been caught working with companies controlled by Anthony Salerno and Paul Castellano. Federal investigations into Trump Plaza found that he likely benefited from connections to racketeering.

Here's a list of his connections to Russian mobsters.

  • Semion Mogilevich. He is considered a strategic threat to national security. He traffics in weapons of mass destruction, nuclear materials, drugs, prostitutes, precious gems, and stolen art.

  • Vyacheslav “Yaponchik” Ivankov. He was Mogilevich’s lieutenant and resident of Trump Tower and Trump Taj Mahal. The FBI called him the "most dangerous Mobster in America" during a May 15, 1996 congressional hearing. He was gunned down by a sniper on a Moscow street after publicly discussing Mogilevich’s close ties to Putin.

  • David Bogatin and Michael Markowitz. Identified by U.S. officials as a member of the Semion Mogilevich organized crime family in the 1990s. They owned five condos in Trump Tower.

  • Dmitry Rybolovlev. He bought Donald Trump’s house for $100 million in 2008. Frequently flew halfway around the world to meet up with Trump in various cities during or after the election.

  • Felix Komarov. Owned condo in Trump Plaza. Laundered money through a Rolls-Royce dealership with Mr. Ivankov.

  • Boris Berezovsky. "Godfather of the Kremlin" owned a Trump condo from 2001 - 2008.

  • Felix Sater. Russian Mobster turned FBI informant who's title is 'Senior advisor to Donald Trump.' He ran Bayrock Group, LLC with Donald Trump and Tevfik Arif.

  • Tevfik Arif. A Kazakhstan-born former Soviet official. He was charged in 2010 by Turkey for the crime of smuggling underage girls into the country for prostitution purposes. He was also Trump's business partner.

  • Alimzhan Tokhtakhounov Russian Mobster boss who had been a fugitive after James Comey indicted him for fixing figure skating at the 2002 Winter Olympics. He was eventually found running a global gambling ring one floor below Trump's penthouse apartment. He escaped a second time only to be turn up 3 months later in Moscow as a VIP attendee for Donald Trump's Miss Universe 2013. Guess who was the federal prosecutor who busted up the global gambling ring? Preet Bharara

  • Helly Nahmad. bought all the units on the 51st floor for more than $18.4 million. He went to prison for about five months in 2014 for leading a high-stakes gambling network.

  • Vadim Trincher. Ran a connected ring for Russian oligarchs and high stakes gambling network. He “laundered approximately $100 million in proceeds from their gambling operation in Russia and Ukraine through shell companies and bank accounts in Cyprus.”

  • Alexsander Ivanovich Lebed. National security advisor for Boris Yeltsin who visited met with Trump in 1997 to discuss development projects in Moscow.

  • Viktor Vekselberg. Former KGB and oligarch who was the second largest shareholder in the Bank of Cyprus. Current Commerce Secretary, Wilbur Ross, was Vice President of Bank of Cyprus.

  • Oleg Deripaska. His ties go beyond the $10 million dollars he paid Paul Manafort. He's been trying to form connections with powerful Republicans for many years Between 2003-2005, Deripaska paid $560,000 to Bob Dole's lobbying firm for assistance in obtaining a US Visa. During the 2008 Presidential Election, Paul Manafort and Rick Davis (Trump's foreign policy advisor) introduced Oleg to John McCain with hopes of forming a strong relationship.

  • Rinat Akhmetov. Richest person in Ukraine who is suspected leader of Ukraine Mafia. Personally hired and paid Paul Manafort in 2005 to be advisor for Viktor Yanukovych election campaign.

  • Dmytro Firtash. Pro-Russian Ukrainian billionaire who is one of Paul Manafort’s biggest clients. By his own admission, he maintains strong ties with a recurring figure on this scene, the reputed Ukrainian/Russian mob boss Semion Mogilevich.

  • Roy Cohn. He was Trump's long time lawyer, friend, and go-to lawyer for the mob. Some of his clients included the Genovese Family, Gambino Family, and the Red Mafiya. Sometime in the 1980's Roy Cohn introduced Paul Manafort and Roger Stone to Donald Trump.

  • Michael Cohen. He has been working for The Trump Organization since 2007 and is a member of the Trump World Tower Condominium Board and the Trump Park Avenue Condominium Board. He also has been a confidant of the Russian organized criminality since at least 1999 and has been laundering money for Russian citizens having connections with the Russian mafia.

  • Ivana Trump. Ivana Trump went into business with two known Russian mobsters, Boris and Michael Vax.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-2016-mob-organized-crime-213910

https://newrepublic.com/article/143...ses-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate

http://fortune.com/2017/05/17/donald-trump-russia-2/


It is seriously fucking laughable to even try and make the claim that he's not the most crooked man in Washington. He's been caught doing literally every crime and shady business tactic you can think of.

And let's not forget the time when he actively spread an extremely racist lie to the American people about President Obama, the first half-black President, being an illegal immigrant from Africa with a fraudulent birth certificate. Something he clearly did because Obama was a black man.
 
It'll be the quickest US civil war. No monuments this time losers.
 
jgarner said:
If President Trump is the least crooked person in Washington, it's simply because he hasn't even been there for a year. He had been sued over 130 times before the end of May since his inauguration. For comparison, that's almost 3x as many as President Obama, President Bush Jr, and President Clinton combined at the same point in their presidency.

President Trump is one of the most crooked businessmen to come out of NYC. He has been involved in over 3,500 lawsuits in his business career. He's been sued for straight up fraudulent practices. He started a "university" which was a complete fraud. He's fucked over countless investors and contractors. He's so unreliable with paying back loans that he was forced to go to Russia for money because banks wouldn't loan him money. In fact in 2004 he lied to Deutsche Bank while seeking a loan claiming he was worth $3.5 billion. They did an audit and found that he was "only" worth $788 million. After they agreed to loan him the money (After personally guaranteeing $40 million), he later defaulted on the loan.

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/10/28/donald-trump-business-busts-victims-511034.html

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/08/12/donald-trumps-business-failures-election-2016-486091.html

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/donald-trump-scandals/474726/

He has serious ties to both American and Russian mobs. He has been caught working with companies controlled by Anthony Salerno and Paul Castellano. Federal investigations into Trump Plaza found that he likely benefited from connections to racketeering.

Here's a list of his connections to Russian mobsters.

  • Semion Mogilevich. He is considered a strategic threat to national security. He traffics in weapons of mass destruction, nuclear materials, drugs, prostitutes, precious gems, and stolen art.

  • Vyacheslav “Yaponchik” Ivankov. He was Mogilevich’s lieutenant and resident of Trump Tower and Trump Taj Mahal. The FBI called him the "most dangerous Mobster in America" during a May 15, 1996 congressional hearing. He was gunned down by a sniper on a Moscow street after publicly discussing Mogilevich’s close ties to Putin.

  • David Bogatin and Michael Markowitz. Identified by U.S. officials as a member of the Semion Mogilevich organized crime family in the 1990s. They owned five condos in Trump Tower.

  • Dmitry Rybolovlev. He bought Donald Trump’s house for $100 million in 2008. Frequently flew halfway around the world to meet up with Trump in various cities during or after the election.

  • Felix Komarov. Owned condo in Trump Plaza. Laundered money through a Rolls-Royce dealership with Mr. Ivankov.

  • Boris Berezovsky. "Godfather of the Kremlin" owned a Trump condo from 2001 - 2008.

  • Felix Sater. Russian Mobster turned FBI informant who's title is 'Senior advisor to Donald Trump.' He ran Bayrock Group, LLC with Donald Trump and Tevfik Arif.

  • Tevfik Arif. A Kazakhstan-born former Soviet official. He was charged in 2010 by Turkey for the crime of smuggling underage girls into the country for prostitution purposes. He was also Trump's business partner.

  • Alimzhan Tokhtakhounov Russian Mobster boss who had been a fugitive after James Comey indicted him for fixing figure skating at the 2002 Winter Olympics. He was eventually found running a global gambling ring one floor below Trump's penthouse apartment. He escaped a second time only to be turn up 3 months later in Moscow as a VIP attendee for Donald Trump's Miss Universe 2013. Guess who was the federal prosecutor who busted up the global gambling ring? Preet Bharara

  • Helly Nahmad. bought all the units on the 51st floor for more than $18.4 million. He went to prison for about five months in 2014 for leading a high-stakes gambling network.

  • Vadim Trincher. Ran a connected ring for Russian oligarchs and high stakes gambling network. He “laundered approximately $100 million in proceeds from their gambling operation in Russia and Ukraine through shell companies and bank accounts in Cyprus.”

  • Alexsander Ivanovich Lebed. National security advisor for Boris Yeltsin who visited met with Trump in 1997 to discuss development projects in Moscow.

  • Viktor Vekselberg. Former KGB and oligarch who was the second largest shareholder in the Bank of Cyprus. Current Commerce Secretary, Wilbur Ross, was Vice President of Bank of Cyprus.

  • Oleg Deripaska. His ties go beyond the $10 million dollars he paid Paul Manafort. He's been trying to form connections with powerful Republicans for many years Between 2003-2005, Deripaska paid $560,000 to Bob Dole's lobbying firm for assistance in obtaining a US Visa. During the 2008 Presidential Election, Paul Manafort and Rick Davis (Trump's foreign policy advisor) introduced Oleg to John McCain with hopes of forming a strong relationship.

  • Rinat Akhmetov. Richest person in Ukraine who is suspected leader of Ukraine Mafia. Personally hired and paid Paul Manafort in 2005 to be advisor for Viktor Yanukovych election campaign.

  • Dmytro Firtash. Pro-Russian Ukrainian billionaire who is one of Paul Manafort’s biggest clients. By his own admission, he maintains strong ties with a recurring figure on this scene, the reputed Ukrainian/Russian mob boss Semion Mogilevich.

  • Roy Cohn. He was Trump's long time lawyer, friend, and go-to lawyer for the mob. Some of his clients included the Genovese Family, Gambino Family, and the Red Mafiya. Sometime in the 1980's Roy Cohn introduced Paul Manafort and Roger Stone to Donald Trump.

  • Michael Cohen. He has been working for The Trump Organization since 2007 and is a member of the Trump World Tower Condominium Board and the Trump Park Avenue Condominium Board. He also has been a confidant of the Russian organized criminality since at least 1999 and has been laundering money for Russian citizens having connections with the Russian mafia.

  • Ivana Trump. Ivana Trump went into business with two known Russian mobsters, Boris and Michael Vax.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-2016-mob-organized-crime-213910

https://newrepublic.com/article/143...ses-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate

http://fortune.com/2017/05/17/donald-trump-russia-2/


It is seriously fucking laughable to even try and make the claim that he's not the most crooked man in Washington. He's been caught doing literally every crime and shady business tactic you can think of.

And let's not forget the time when he actively spread an extremely racist lie to the American people about President Obama, the first half-black President, being an illegal immigrant from Africa with a fraudulent birth certificate. Something he clearly did because Obama was a black man.
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John Miller remembers
 
jgarner said:
If President Trump is the least crooked person in Washington, it's simply because he hasn't even been there for a year. He had been sued over 130 times before the end of May since his inauguration. For comparison, that's almost 3x as many as President Obama, President Bush Jr, and President Clinton combined at the same point in their presidency.

President Trump is one of the most crooked businessmen to come out of NYC. He has been involved in over 3,500 lawsuits in his business career. He's been sued for straight up fraudulent practices. He started a "university" which was a complete fraud. He's fucked over countless investors and contractors. He's so unreliable with paying back loans that he was forced to go to Russia for money because banks wouldn't loan him money. In fact in 2004 he lied to Deutsche Bank while seeking a loan claiming he was worth $3.5 billion. They did an audit and found that he was "only" worth $788 million. After they agreed to loan him the money (After personally guaranteeing $40 million), he later defaulted on the loan.

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/10/28/donald-trump-business-busts-victims-511034.html

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/08/12/donald-trumps-business-failures-election-2016-486091.html

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/donald-trump-scandals/474726/

He has serious ties to both American and Russian mobs. He has been caught working with companies controlled by Anthony Salerno and Paul Castellano. Federal investigations into Trump Plaza found that he likely benefited from connections to racketeering.

Here's a list of his connections to Russian mobsters.

  • Semion Mogilevich. He is considered a strategic threat to national security. He traffics in weapons of mass destruction, nuclear materials, drugs, prostitutes, precious gems, and stolen art.

  • Vyacheslav “Yaponchik” Ivankov. He was Mogilevich’s lieutenant and resident of Trump Tower and Trump Taj Mahal. The FBI called him the "most dangerous Mobster in America" during a May 15, 1996 congressional hearing. He was gunned down by a sniper on a Moscow street after publicly discussing Mogilevich’s close ties to Putin.

  • David Bogatin and Michael Markowitz. Identified by U.S. officials as a member of the Semion Mogilevich organized crime family in the 1990s. They owned five condos in Trump Tower.

  • Dmitry Rybolovlev. He bought Donald Trump’s house for $100 million in 2008. Frequently flew halfway around the world to meet up with Trump in various cities during or after the election.

  • Felix Komarov. Owned condo in Trump Plaza. Laundered money through a Rolls-Royce dealership with Mr. Ivankov.

  • Boris Berezovsky. "Godfather of the Kremlin" owned a Trump condo from 2001 - 2008.

  • Felix Sater. Russian Mobster turned FBI informant who's title is 'Senior advisor to Donald Trump.' He ran Bayrock Group, LLC with Donald Trump and Tevfik Arif.

  • Tevfik Arif. A Kazakhstan-born former Soviet official. He was charged in 2010 by Turkey for the crime of smuggling underage girls into the country for prostitution purposes. He was also Trump's business partner.

  • Alimzhan Tokhtakhounov Russian Mobster boss who had been a fugitive after James Comey indicted him for fixing figure skating at the 2002 Winter Olympics. He was eventually found running a global gambling ring one floor below Trump's penthouse apartment. He escaped a second time only to be turn up 3 months later in Moscow as a VIP attendee for Donald Trump's Miss Universe 2013. Guess who was the federal prosecutor who busted up the global gambling ring? Preet Bharara

  • Helly Nahmad. bought all the units on the 51st floor for more than $18.4 million. He went to prison for about five months in 2014 for leading a high-stakes gambling network.

  • Vadim Trincher. Ran a connected ring for Russian oligarchs and high stakes gambling network. He “laundered approximately $100 million in proceeds from their gambling operation in Russia and Ukraine through shell companies and bank accounts in Cyprus.”

  • Alexsander Ivanovich Lebed. National security advisor for Boris Yeltsin who visited met with Trump in 1997 to discuss development projects in Moscow.

  • Viktor Vekselberg. Former KGB and oligarch who was the second largest shareholder in the Bank of Cyprus. Current Commerce Secretary, Wilbur Ross, was Vice President of Bank of Cyprus.

  • Oleg Deripaska. His ties go beyond the $10 million dollars he paid Paul Manafort. He's been trying to form connections with powerful Republicans for many years Between 2003-2005, Deripaska paid $560,000 to Bob Dole's lobbying firm for assistance in obtaining a US Visa. During the 2008 Presidential Election, Paul Manafort and Rick Davis (Trump's foreign policy advisor) introduced Oleg to John McCain with hopes of forming a strong relationship.

  • Rinat Akhmetov. Richest person in Ukraine who is suspected leader of Ukraine Mafia. Personally hired and paid Paul Manafort in 2005 to be advisor for Viktor Yanukovych election campaign.

  • Dmytro Firtash. Pro-Russian Ukrainian billionaire who is one of Paul Manafort’s biggest clients. By his own admission, he maintains strong ties with a recurring figure on this scene, the reputed Ukrainian/Russian mob boss Semion Mogilevich.

  • Roy Cohn. He was Trump's long time lawyer, friend, and go-to lawyer for the mob. Some of his clients included the Genovese Family, Gambino Family, and the Red Mafiya. Sometime in the 1980's Roy Cohn introduced Paul Manafort and Roger Stone to Donald Trump.

  • Michael Cohen. He has been working for The Trump Organization since 2007 and is a member of the Trump World Tower Condominium Board and the Trump Park Avenue Condominium Board. He also has been a confidant of the Russian organized criminality since at least 1999 and has been laundering money for Russian citizens having connections with the Russian mafia.

  • Ivana Trump. Ivana Trump went into business with two known Russian mobsters, Boris and Michael Vax.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-2016-mob-organized-crime-213910

https://newrepublic.com/article/143...ses-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate

http://fortune.com/2017/05/17/donald-trump-russia-2/


It is seriously fucking laughable to even try and make the claim that he's not the most crooked man in Washington. He's been caught doing literally every crime and shady business tactic you can think of.

And let's not forget the time when he actively spread an extremely racist lie to the American people about President Obama, the first half-black President, being an illegal immigrant from Africa with a fraudulent birth certificate. Something he clearly did because Obama was a black man.
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Even if everything you said is true, he's still one of the least crooked guys in Washington. And if anything was a serious crime, the Clinton machine, the most powerful political machine in the world would have uncovered it.


How do you think these folks become multi millionaires making 150k a year? You think they're honest people who care about out interests?


Oh god, he's been sued by butthurt liberals? Imagine my surprise. These are the same people that think the travel ban in unconstitutional, but daca is AOK.


Oh yeah, let's not forget Bill Clinton is a rapist. Trump has a long way to go to reach Clinton levels of scumbaggery. Obama armed AQ and Isis in Syria and contributed to the genocide of 500k people. But, Trump, is literally hitler...





The real sad part, none of them, will ever be held accountable.

The great part, is we get to feast upon liberal tears for years and years.



PS "Trump's racist"

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Haven't heard that name for almost 3 decades and it looked like his wife finally ditched the excessive mascara
 
I don't believe him for a second. I'd say it would at least take that he was convicted and replaced, but even then people are too fat and lazy to actually do anything and the whole "we need to be able to stand up to our government" will always be nothing more than a slogan to keep the 2nd amendment intact. Not that even the prerequisite events will happen either.

TheComebackKid said:
People would be justified to take up arms at that point but I don't see i t happening.
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You're making our discussions about Christian related issues funnier in hindsight on a regular basis.
 
Rational Poster said:
So because it's an MMA forum, it's ok to lust for the deaths of your political opposition?
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I dont hate them because of their political views. I hate them because they're criminals. And i got flagged for my comment so congratulations
 
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