Elections Reminder : MSM Presidential Polls Are Fake.

[GearSolidMetal]

Again, you're arguing that the some magical body keeps MoE wide for pills. What margin and confidence do you want? Otherwise, you have no idea what's too wide or not since those are relative terms.

You seem to also not understand that campaigns can afford to spend more on polls than media outlets.

Again, you're missing the point that Kamala's campaign internal polls NEVER had her winning, while the MSM polls had her winning the popular vote by two points.

Why do you like being lied to, Av?

 

[avenue94]

Again, you're missing the point that Kamala's campaign internal polls NEVER had her winning, while the MSM polls had her winning the popular vote by two points.

Why do you like being lied to, Av?

Do you think her polls and media pills overlapped in margin of error? Combined you're talking almost a ten point spread, which is quite possible.

 

[Lord_Impaler]

The media will usually push polls that over sample Democrats to the front of their headlines. Just look at how they jumped all over the "Harris will win Iowa" nonsense pushed by ONE pollster.

That Iowa thing was just a straight up attempt at election tampering via disinformation. “Accidentally” off by 16 points 2 days before the election. K

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Do you think her polls and media pills overlapped in margin of error? Combined you're talking almost a ten point spread, which is quite possible.

Is it?
How convenient the average MoE of MSM polls are 10 points with Kamala winning,, while Kamala's internal polls always had her losing.

You don't feel manipulated?

 

[avenue94]

Is it?
How convenient the average MoE of MSM polls are 10 points with Kamala winning,, while Kamala's internal polls always had her losing.

You don't feel manipulated?

Why would I feel manipulated about election results landing within margin of error?

You don't seem to understand basic statistics. Do you even know ow how to calculate MoE? That's one if the most basic parts here.

 

[koquerelle]

Same thing is happening in Canada, Liberals are massively ahead in the polls, yet Carney can't get anyone out to his rallies, you got them putting up mirrors on each side of the room at every event to make it seem like a crowd of barely a hundred is actually large, meanwhile Pierre is regularly drawing thousands to his rallies.

Or maybe Canadians really are this stupid, we will see.

Wow. You still think rally numbers matter.

 

[tastaylvr]

One of the funniest parts of your post is where you say Trump's anti trans ads were very effective and your source for this is a public poll...which you are sharing at the end of a post about how public polls are fake.

This is part of parcel how they operate

It’s like how they say all studies are fake yet use studies to prove their argument.

It’s easy living in maga world because everything you believe is real and everything you disagree with is not real. A simple heuristic they use to get by in life

 

[sickc0d3r]

Kamala Harris Campaign Aides Suggest Campaign Was Just Doomed​

The Harris campaign’s internal polling apparently never had her ahead of Trump.

Kamala Harris Campaign Aides Suggest Campaign Was Just Doomed

The Harris campaign’s internal polling apparently never had her ahead of Trump.

www.huffpost.com

“We were hopeful. I don’t know how optimistic we were, but we thought, OK, this is tied, and if a couple things break our way [we could win],” David Plouffe, a senior adviser to the campaign, said Tuesday on the “Pod Save America” podcast in a joint interview with fellow Harris campaign alums Jen O’Malley Dillon, Quentin Fulks and Stephanie Cutter.

Plouffe said the campaign’s internal polling never had Harris ahead of Trump.
“We didn’t get the breaks we needed on Election Day,” he said. “I think it surprised people, because there was these public polls that came out in late September, early October, showing us with leads that we never saw.”

Not a surprise whatsoever.





Oh, and here's another juicy quote for those who claimed Trump's LGBTQ ads about Kamala's 'Free Sex-Change Surgeries For Prisoners' quote wasn't effective -

"Since Election Day, Democrats have also debated the impact of Trump’s anti-trans messaging, with some lawmakers questioning the party’s fealty to trans rights activists with uncompromising positions. The Trump campaign spent significant resources on ads highlighting Harris’ past support for gender-affirming care, including surgery, for people incarcerated in federal prisons.
Fulks, Harris’ former deputy campaign manager, called those ads “very effective,” though he and Plouffe said they doubted whether the ads actually moved voters. Some polling has shown the issue moved independent voters who broke for Trump."

My internal polling says you’re an idiot.

 

[Andy Capp]

My internal polling says you’re an idiot.

/thread

 

[Andy Capp]

Why would I feel manipulated about election results landing within margin of error?

You don't seem to understand basic statistics. Do you even know ow how to calculate MoE? That's one if the most basic parts here.

Which was omitted for absolutely no dishonest reason whatsoever, I'm sure.

 

[Andy Capp]

That Iowa thing was just a straight up attempt at election tampering via disinformation. “Accidentally” off by 16 points 2 days before the election. K

If you have ever seen an honest explanation of the margin of error in a poll, it says, + or - X number of points, 19 times out of 20. That last part means that about one poll in twenty, on average, may be an outlier and far out bounds of a normal result.

It's not super surprising when these things happen. Why'd they publish the results, though? Transparency, presumably. I doubt it made any difference in the outcome but if you have any that it did I'd like to see it.

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

But but that would destroy the narrative , fear and lies are what guide these folks

You're one of the guys that was terrified of a cold for three years, right?

 

[Mr. Shickadance]

You're one of the guys that was terrified of a cold for three years, right?

Someone feels attacked by my statement , toughen up Canuck

 

[Siver!]

Wow, a margin of error in a super-tight race.

Can't believe this, me.

Shocked, I am.

Spilled my coffee, I have.

 

[tastaylvr]

You're one of the guys that was terrified of a cold for three years, right?

And rnt you one of the guys who are scared of immigrants even though they would do less dmg using ur own numbers in 1k years than that “cold” would do in one? Jfc lol

 

[James Bomb]

This is part of parcel how they operate

It’s like how they say all studies are fake yet use studies to prove their argument.

It’s easy living in maga world because everything you believe is real and everything you disagree with is not real. A simple heuristic they use to get by in life

Trump’s poll numbers go down, and all of the sudden polls don’t mean anything anymore.

Convenient.

 

[James Bomb]

My internal polling says you’re an idiot.

He’s a skinhead, they’re not known for making good choices.