News Remember when Dana used to claim MMA would replace or overtake Boxing?

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

UFC is for beer drinkers, boxing is for everybody

Okay Bob.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

UFC is for beer drinkers, boxing is for everybody

I think their sponsors would disagree. It would seem like to me boxing is also for beer drinkers.

 

[moreorless87]

Honestly I tend to think that the UFC/Dana actually work towards keeping MMA "small", they want a certain degree of sucess of course, a few breakout stars like Conor they can milk but the sport as a whole I think there happy with it being at the level it is because they can largely control it.

If MMA grew to the size of boxing a single promoter would have a much tougher time dominating it, a smaller sportw tih a small fanbase many of whome follow the UFC brand as much as the sport suits them nicely.

 

[LostMyBlackBelt]

Dana used to think a Hummer with Spinny wheels was the coolest car money could buy.

 

[TJ Dillashank]

Well, to be fair to the bald goof, I see people with UFC shirts all the time and have never seen anyone with a boxing shirt. Not to mention, UFC fighters are becoming increasingly known to casual sports fans, whereas boxers are not. At this stage in sports lives MMA is flourishing and doing better than ever, and boxing is dying.

 

[Söze Aldo]

Well, to be fair to the bald goof, I see people with UFC shirts all the time and have never seen anyone with a boxing shirt. Not to mention, UFC fighters are becoming increasingly known to casual sports fans, whereas boxers are not. At this stage in sports lives MMA is flourishing and doing better than ever, and boxing is dying.

I’d have agreed with you maybe five years ago. However now, just compare the state of both sports HW divisions. Heavyweight boxing is light years ahead of heavyweight MMA. Usyk is a unified titleholder in a sport with four belts, while Tom can’t even get a fight to unify the interim title he won nearly two years ago.

Pereira is the only real star to emerge for the UFC in the last few years. "Star personalities" like Sean O'Malley and Paddy Pimblett are not nearly as well known among casual sports fans as guys like Bud Crawford and Canelo. Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia are bigger names than most UFC stars, and then you have Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury, who are pretty globally recognized.

 

[TankAbbott4Eva]

UFC is for beer drinkers, boxing is for everybody

I drink beer and like boxing and MMA!

 

[TJ Dillashank]

I’d have agreed with you maybe five years ago. However now, just compare the state of both sports HW divisions. Heavyweight boxing is light years ahead of heavyweight MMA. Usyk is a unified titleholder in a sport with four belts, while Tom can’t even get a fight to unify the interim title he won nearly two years ago.

Pereira is the only real star to emerge for the UFC in the last few years. "Star personalities" like Sean O'Malley and Paddy Pimblett are not nearly as well known among casual sports fans as guys like Bud Crawford and Canelo. Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia are bigger names than most UFC stars, and then you have Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury, who are pretty globally recognized.

Even the heavyweight div in boxing is the worst it's been in years and though there are a couple really big names in boxing like the ones you just mentioned besides those guys no one knows other contenders. Even though the UFC is short on star power right now the brand itself is much more well known than any of the recognized bodies in boxing.

 

[Pierced7681]

I drink beer and like boxing and MMA!

google what I said lol it’s a quote

 

[TankAbbott4Eva]

google what I said lol it’s a quote

I know bro

 

[Bend NvR Break]

1. This is about Ari Emanuel, not Dana. The amount of people who follow MMA religiously for years and still think Dana calls the shots is out of control.

This. It's actually pretty fucking stupid the amount of so call hardcore MMA fans that still actually believe that Dana is the brain behind the operation and is the one calling the shots in the board meetings. Dana is the face and mouth of the UFC. He's not the brain or the decision maker. He pushes the agenda that's given to him.

 

[snugglecakes]

and now the wet dream of every MMA fighter is to get out of their predatory mma contract so they can go box for eleventeen times more money than MMA is paying them

... so now dana had to choice but to try and take that away

 

[orca]

Dana is a businessman
whatever makes him profit he will do it

 

[Doctor Grudge]

This. It's actually pretty fucking stupid the amount of so call hardcore MMA fans that still actually believe that Dana is the brain behind the operation and is the one calling the shots in the board meetings. Dana is the face and mouth of the UFC. He's not the brain or the decision maker. He pushes the agenda that's given to him.

I mean Dana doesn't own the UFC but of course he makes decisions for the UFC. He runs the operation.

He might not be the guy getting their TV deals or things of that nature, but when it comes to putting on events which is what most fans interact with, he's definitely hands on.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Pereira is the only real star to emerge for the UFC in the last few years. "Star personalities" like Sean O'Malley and Paddy Pimblett are not nearly as well known among casual sports fans as guys like Bud Crawford and Canelo. Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia are bigger names than most UFC stars, and then you have Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury, who are pretty globally recognized.

Boxing does have bigger stars at the absolute top end right now. But it doesnt necessarily matter that much in practice because MMA has always been more set up around big cards than individual stars. Plus the UFC brand itself is a draw too. its honestly kind of a similar business model to the WWE tbh.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Even the heavyweight div in boxing is the worst it's been in years and though there are a couple really big names in boxing like the ones you just mentioned besides those guys no one knows other contenders. Even though the UFC is short on star power right now the brand itself is much more well known than any of the recognized bodies in boxing.

I'm not sure what you mean by that. Usyk and Wilder are still plenty famous, it's not just Fury and Joshua.

Contenders like Daniel Dubois? Not a house hold name, but he's pretty well known for a guy without a big boy belt. He is probably more famous than Tom Aspinall.

That's just comparing the heavyweights. Someone like Inoue is a bigger name in Japan than anyone in the UFC is in America.

 

[GuanoApes]

I spend half the year in a Muslim country and no one knows who Khabib is.

Which country were you in? Jw.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Which country were you in? Jw.

Malaysia! Train there too, though its not very high level.

 

[GuanoApes]

Malaysia! Train there too, though its not very high level.

I see.

 

[Pierced7681]

I mean Dana doesn't own the UFC but of course he makes decisions for the UFC. He runs the operation.

He might not be the guy getting their TV deals or things of that nature, but when it comes to putting on events which is what most fans interact with, he's definitely hands on.

Correct, he also has his little puppet Hunter Campbell running around doing his dirty work while he oversees him