Reebok payouts for UFC 195!! :|

[IamStryker]

The UFC/Reebok did not have to give the fighters anything. If the fighters don't like it they can fight elsewhere. Lebron James would love to be able to sell real estate on his jersey but he can't.

How much does Lebron make every year?

 

[0hm]

Like I said before I was sure I could find plenty of evidence to support my point so I did, here you go. http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/5/2...eebok-deal-what-fighters-really-think-sponsor . It's plainly obvious to anyone who spends 10 minutes searching that the vast majority of fighters are losing money because of Reebok.

That guy said "Not bad for a job that requires no education". This is wrong on many levels. 1) It is factually wrong. Being a UFC fighters takes a lot of education. Education in regards to knowing how to fight and live the life of being a fighter. You are studying under people who have the education and paying for that education. He is plain wrong. 2) What he said is something you tell people who work at Mcdonalds to make them feel better because you don't need hardly any education/experience/skills to get that job. Being a UFC fighter is 100% different. It is incredibly disrespectful stupid and arrogant to say this to a high level athlete. I could probably go on but I feel that I have made my point.

I think it is fine that they are experiencing drops in payout from sponsorships, alone (a figure that will rise with time). It is better for the sport to not see "Condom Depot" and other random nonsense on the shorts of the fighters.

That is not what is meant by "education". People learn things every day, in all likelihood. It doesn't take any formal education to become a fighter and their wages are absolutely terrific given that fact. A fighter can come from nothing and pay next to nothing and make it to the big-show with the potential to make great sums of money. Given what we know about average wages for pro-fighters and pro-athletes in general, these guys are doing well for themselves, even the entry level ones. That is just the truth.

 

[Ken Fresno]

I edited my post you quoted. I put in more of an explanation.

Why should the fighters wear it for free? The same reason other workers wear uniforms for free. It's just part of the job. I never got paid when I had to wear ugly ass uniforms for previous jobs. Did you?

What a gump. The kids ordering happy meals from you weren't aspiring to be you dummy.

 

[IamStryker]

I think it is fine that they are experiencing drops in payout from sponsorships, alone (a figure that will rise with time). It is better for the sport to not see "Condom Depot" and other random nonsense on the shorts of the fighters.

Wow. In a sport that already doesn't pay very well to top talent you think it's totally fine to take away a large chunk of their income. Ok bro.

That is not what is meant by "education". People learn things every day, in all likelihood. It doesn't take any formal education to become a fighter and their wages are absolutely terrific given that fact.

I don't know if I have ever heard of a UFC fighter who hasn't gone through extensive training to get where he is. Yes that is education and it did cost him financially and it will continue to cost him financially as long as he continues fighting.

A fighter can come from nothing and pay next to nothing and make it to the big-show with the potential to make great sums of money. That is just the truth.

I would like to see some examples of this

 

[Rational Poster]

You people are disturbing. You enjoy watching these men and women put their brains on the line every week while they're grossly underpaid for it. Give me a break.

I have little sympathy for grown men and women signing contracts under the supervision of their chosen managers and/or lawyers.

 

[0hm]

Wow. In a sport that already doesn't pay very well to top talent you think it's totally fine to take away a large chunk of their income. Ok bro.

I don't know if I have ever heard of a UFC fighter who hasn't gone through extensive training to getwhere he is. Yes that is education and it did cost him financially and it will continue to cost him financially as long as he continues fighting.

I would like to see some examples of this

1) What top talent isn't being paid relatively well?;

2) If you cannot see the difference between training wages (American Top Team is only $300 a month and that is one of the best gyms on the planet; most gyms are sub $100...) and a nearly mandated 100k of debt just to be given the chance to secure solid employment, then you are blind and naive (med students take out over a quarter of a million in debt, lawyers often from 100k-200k, grad students of any kind near 100k, etc.);

3) Conor McGregor, for example. He was training and living off of welfare. He now makes millions. The same can be said for most - if not all - well-known pugilists.

 

[Rex Kwon Do]

What a gump. The kids ordering happy meals from you weren't aspiring to be you dummy.

Who aspires to get brain damage for $8,000? At least the McDonald's burger flipper makes more and takes no damage.

Dummy.

 

[IamStryker]

1) What top talent isn't being paid relatively well?;

Aljamain and Nate. Just to name two off the top of my head.

2) If you cannot see the difference between training wages (American Top Team is only $300 a month and that is one of the best gyms on the planet; most gyms are sub $100...) and a nearly mandated 100k of debt just to be given the chance to secure solid employment, then you are blind;

Look back at my post containing how much fighters have to give up out of their purse each fight. The continued expenses of fighting will easily match going to college which will eventually end.

3) Conor McGregor, for example. He was training and living off of welfare. He now makes millions. The same can be said for most - if not all - boxers of whom you know the names.

Your example is Conor? The most well paid UFC fighter in any weight class? I doubt that he even cares about the Reebok money. I bet that amount is in his couch cushions. But yeah fighters can come from nothing, but that wasn't the point. The point is they all pay for education to get to where they are at and they CONTINUE paying for it.

 

[0hm]

Aljamain and Nate. Just to name two off the top of my head.

Look back at my post containing how much fighters have to give up out of their purse each fight. The continued expenses of fighting will easily match going to college which will eventually end.

Your example is Conor? The most well paid UFC fighter in any weight class? I doubt that he even cares about the Reebok money. I bet that amount is in his couch cushions. But yeah fighters can come from nothing, but that wasn't the point. The point is they all pay for education to get to where they are at and they CONTINUE paying for it.

1) Nate: http://mma-manifesto.com/ufc-fighter-salary-database/salary-main/ufc-career-fighter-earnings.html; It says here that he has made nearly 1.5 million during his UFC tenure; Sterling made 24k in one fight recently. If he fights upwards of three times a year, he makes a very solid wage for a guy with zero solid wins on his record (not counting bonuses or sponsorship pay);

2) You are naive, and it is painfully obvious. Those figures I presented didn't even account for interest which on good loans is almost 5%. Do the math, it isn't close and you are silly for even stating such a thing;

3) They all pay next to nothing for an education and have the ability to make millions. The median salary for a pro-boxer is 40k (http://work.chron.com/salaries-pro-boxers-30165.html) and they tend to fight much more frequently, for less. The guys in the UFC are paid relatively well; that is a fact.

 

[rearnakedchoke]

Seems like a good deal ... I think it should go based on when you fight ... Everyone on the fight pass card gets the same, everyone on the prelims get the same and everyone on the ppv/main card gets the same ... If it is all about marketing /exposure ... But then again, since they are all wearing the same thing, is it really marketing?

 

[Prime Ang]

The answer is zero. Zero dollars. For the record.

Wearing a uniform is required of the job. You don't get extra money to wear your uniform, not as a postal worker, not as a UPS worker, not as a McDonald's burger flipper. It is simply one facet of the job. The same with being a UFC fighter. They have uniforms now. It's part of the job. You get paid to fight. It's pretty gracious they pay them for something that pretty much no other job pays for, which is to rep the company with a uniform.

Agreed.

 

[Patof]

Hey Reebok! 2.5gs BABAYYYYYYYYYY

 

[Crim]

1) Nate: http://mma-manifesto.com/ufc-fighter-salary-database/salary-main/ufc-career-fighter-earnings.html; It says here that he has made nearly 1.5 million during his UFC tenure; Sterling made 24k in one fight recently. If he fights upwards of three times a year, he makes a very solid wage for a guy with zero solid wins on his record (not counting bonuses or sponsorship pay);

2) You are naive, and it is painfully obvious. Those figures I presented didn't even account for interest which on good loans is almost 5%. Do the math, it isn't close and you are silly for even stating such a thing;

3) They all pay next to nothing for an education and have the ability to make millions. The median salary for a pro-boxer is 40k (http://work.chron.com/salaries-pro-boxers-30165.html) and they tend to fight much more frequently, for less. The guys in the UFC are paid relatively well; that is a fact.

75k is a good salary? That is probably 50ish k after taxes disregarding the common 10% management fee, and numerous other fee's that eat into that 50, so we're under 40k more realistically after taxes management fee's and other fees.

What are "good loans" you can invest in that return 5% that's actually safe?

 

[Ken Fresno]

Who aspires to get brain damage for $8,000? At least the McDonald's burger flipper makes more and takes no damage.

Dummy.

35,000 posts and you think that's their whole salary. Hey in a couple years you could make assistant manager, then the big bucks start rolling in. Embrace the grind.

 

[Johnny Rosa]

I assumed that is what he meant as that is usually what people mean when they say that very same thing.

Ehm, what?

The exact quote that started this was the following?

Not bad for a job that requires no education.

Do you see any mention of costs?

You're trying to be smart, but you're not. Keep it up though.

 

[IamStryker]

1) Nate: http://mma-manifesto.com/ufc-fighter-salary-database/salary-main/ufc-career-fighter-earnings.html; It says here that he has made nearly 1.5 million during his UFC tenure; Sterling made 24k in one fight recently. If he fights upwards of three times a year, he makes a very solid wage for a guy with zero solid wins on his record (not counting bonuses or sponsorship pay);

What Nate made in the past is irrelevant to what I said in regards to what he has made recently. Nate's recent fights have been for 20/20. That is bad or a fighter such as Nate. Sterling making 12/12 is a joke that you would even try to defend that. Please read up on how much money comes out of a fighters purse on average as their expenses.

2) You are naive, and it is painfully obvious. Those figures I presented didn't even account for interest which on good loans is almost 5%. Do the math, it isn't close and you are silly for even stating such a thing;

Since you are so confident please find a fighter who has been at this awhile and do the math on how much he has paid for training (general training and out of his fight purses). I seriously doubt that you will find it being less than a college degree.

3) They all pay next to nothing for an education and have the ability to make millions. The median salary for a pro-boxer is 40k (http://work.chron.com/salaries-pro-boxers-30165.html) and they tend to fight much more frequently, for less. The guys in the UFC are paid relatively well; that is a fact.

"Next to nothing" is BS as I have already pointed out in regards to what comes out of their purses for each fight. If a pro boxer gets 40k then his pay is bad as well but I don't watch boxing and I am not here to discuss boxing. The UFC could choose to pay their fighters better and they hurt their pay even further with the Reebok deal, that is a fact.

 

[Lanshire]

Dat Reebok money.

 

[0hm]

75k is a good salary? That is probably 50ish k after taxes disregarding the common 10% management fee, and numerous other fee's that eat into that 50, so we're under 40k more realistically after taxes management fee's and other fees.

Don't forget the minimum 7.5k from Reebok as well as the potential for bonuses. A guy with zero solid wins on his record has the ability to make over 100k a year; yes, I would call that "good".

The federal loans are near 5% and have inherently less randomness than "alternative loans" which are commonplace these days (variable interest rate that often has no cap).

 

[Crim]

Don't forget the minimum 7.5k from Reebok as well as the potential for bonuses. A guy with zero solid wins on his record has the ability to make over 100k a year; yes, I would call that "good".

The federal loans are near 5% and have inherently less randomness than "alternative loans" which are commonplace these days (variable interest rate that often has no cap).

You're full of shit... you keep stating "loans"... do you even know what a loan is? You're borrowing money with a loan but you want to pull numbers out of your ass about a 5% return?

You could have said a CD, Bonds, Savings account etc which EARN interest. It's clear you have no idea wtf you are talking about.

You're lucky to earn over 1% interest on a Savings Account... 10 year US Treasuries barely scratch over 2%...

You'd have to RISK going into the stock market to get a 5% return.

You have no clue wtf you're talking about.

 

[0hm]

What Nate made in the past is irrelevant to what I said in regards to what he has made recently. Nate's recent fights have been for 20/20. That is bad or a fighter such as Nate. Sterling making 12/12 is a joke that you would even try to defend that. Please read up on how much money comes out of a fighters purse on average as their expenses.

Since you are so confident please find a fighter who has been at this awhile and do the math on how much he has paid for training (general training and out of his fight purses). I seriously doubt that you will find it being less than a college degree.

"Next to nothing" is BS as I have already pointed out in regards to what comes out of their purses for each fight. If a pro boxer gets 40k then his pay is bad as well but I don't watch boxing and I am not here to discuss boxing. The UFC could choose to pay their fighters better and they hurt their pay even further with the Reebok deal, that is a fact.

1) This entire discussion is about fighter pay. Nate has made more money in his short life than most will ever make, and he can hardly compose a sentence. This sport and the UFC have done well by him, certainly;

2) It is your argument, you do the leg-work. (No way it pans out for you; not a single chance);

3) The fighters are well paid, relatively speaking. That is a fact. The ones that reach the top have the ability to retire for life by the age of 35. I am not sure what else there is to say.

What should the UFC pay a guy like Sterling (a guy with zero solid wins to his name that seems to want to whine)? What about entry level guys?