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Koala said:
He's transitioning to MMA
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Would be interesting. He has been working for a very long time (from his savate days) with Nicolas Ott, coach of Imavov, BSD, Gomis, Baki Chamsoudinov. So he would be in the best hands for his transition.
 
  • Saemapetch Fairtex vs. Elbrus Osmanov (Muay Thai – bantamweight)
  • Saksri Superlek Muaythai vs. Logan Chan (Muay Thai – 138 pounds)
  • Petninmungkorn NamkangIceland vs. Petnaya NhongBangsai (Muay Thai – atomweight)
  • Kritpet PK Saenchai vs. Mehrdad Khanzadeh (Muay Thai – strawweight)
  • Anon Taladkondernmuangpon vs. Gianny De Leu (Muay Thai – 118 pounds)
  • Ikkyusan Sor Salacheep vs. Kampanthong Chor Hapayak (Muay Thai – 113 pounds)
  • Kongchai Chanaidonmueang vs. Walter Goncalves (Muay Thai – strawweight)
  • Guyasit Singha Mawynn vs. Dzhamil Osmanov (Muay Thai – bantamweight)
  • Liu Yuer vs. Nefise Delikurt (Muay Thai – atomweight)
  • Rayan Mekki vs. Muga (Muay Thai – 140 pounds)
  • Kyung Joong Kim vs. Su Sung Cho Gotoh (MMA – 139 pounds)
  • Juliana Otalora vs. Kim Tran (MMA – atomweight)
not much at all to get excited about
Saemapetch being sacrificed to give Osmanov a name win

Petnimungkorn - Petnaya looks like the best match of the night to me.

good to see Kongchai is back but Goncalves (how did he ever get a contract?) will make for a crappy style match

a total 'meh' card where the hopes for excitement will be resting on the unknowns
 
IanEdwards said:
  • Saemapetch Fairtex vs. Elbrus Osmanov (Muay Thai – bantamweight)
  • Saksri Superlek Muaythai vs. Logan Chan (Muay Thai – 138 pounds)
  • Petninmungkorn NamkangIceland vs. Petnaya NhongBangsai (Muay Thai – atomweight)
  • Kritpet PK Saenchai vs. Mehrdad Khanzadeh (Muay Thai – strawweight)
  • Anon Taladkondernmuangpon vs. Gianny De Leu (Muay Thai – 118 pounds)
  • Ikkyusan Sor Salacheep vs. Kampanthong Chor Hapayak (Muay Thai – 113 pounds)
  • Kongchai Chanaidonmueang vs. Walter Goncalves (Muay Thai – strawweight)
  • Guyasit Singha Mawynn vs. Dzhamil Osmanov (Muay Thai – bantamweight)
  • Liu Yuer vs. Nefise Delikurt (Muay Thai – atomweight)
  • Rayan Mekki vs. Muga (Muay Thai – 140 pounds)
  • Kyung Joong Kim vs. Su Sung Cho Gotoh (MMA – 139 pounds)
  • Juliana Otalora vs. Kim Tran (MMA – atomweight)
not much at all to get excited about
Saemapetch being sacrificed to give Osmanov a name win

Petnimungkorn - Petnaya looks like the best match of the night to me.

good to see Kongchai is back but Goncalves (how did he ever get a contract?) will make for a crappy style match

a total 'meh' card where the hopes for excitement will be resting on the unknowns
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Saemapetch is just looking for pay checks at this point, he's on 3 TKO losses and soon to be 4.
 
Tayski said:
Saemapetch is just looking for pay checks at this point, he's on 3 TKO losses and soon to be 4.
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yeah, so it seems, which is sad. I always hate seeing faded legends on their painful farewell tour
 
Jesus i find its hard to watch One these days. Todays card nearly every Thai fighter had a size dis-advantage, nearly every second foreign fighter looked juiced and loads of dudes were doing full on double legs and the thai ref says nothing. With the double legs I think its cause the ref can't speak english and don't want to lose 'face'. Also very inconsistent with giving counts for getting dropped.
Saemapetch's problem is too big for 135 and too small for 145. His best weight is between 138 and 142. Another thing that pissed me off today. Quite a few of the foreign fighters today fought at 138, 140 and were big for the weight they fought at. So they can do it for the foreign fighters.
I have never seen a country that hates its own fighters like thailand.
 
I liked the debut of Osmanov's kid brother. His style is much nicer than his older brother's.
 
SuperLuigi said:
I liked the debut of Osmanov's kid brother. His style is much nicer than his older brother's.
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ha, I didn't put two and two together, yeah absolutely he's a better watch. I actually thought his opponent had really got back into the fight and it was looking like a really interesting last 4.5 minutes when Osmanov dropped the winning bomb somewhat out of the blue
 
Mickf said:
Jesus i find its hard to watch One these days. Todays card nearly every Thai fighter had a size dis-advantage, nearly every second foreign fighter looked juiced and loads of dudes were doing full on double legs and the thai ref says nothing. With the double legs I think its cause the ref can't speak english and don't want to lose 'face'. Also very inconsistent with giving counts for getting dropped.
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yeah agreed I have tended to self-censor (without really realising it) and look out for the Thai vs Thai matchups much more nowadays. On occasion the size mismatches have worked against the (weight-drained) farang, Soner Sen barely being able to throw a strike at the weight last time out being one.

I feel as though at least some of the size mismatches are related to the lack of Thais at the heavier weights. Poor old Tuengnueng is literally dwarfed every time he sets foot in the ring with is little spare tyre round the middle showing how little struggle he has in getting to the weight, last time out he was getting to the huge Dagestani nonetheless before getting sparked. Like 'curly ninja' last night if the very-big-at-the-weight guys have to fight at the pace you can see them flagging pretty quickly. But then when they land their best shots its the impact of a dude basically a stone heavier (or more) landing.

I have found not just the reffing but the scoring to be much less reliable lately; I thought Kongchai got an absolute gift decision last night (not a size mismatch ironically)
 
looking ahead to One Fight Night 36, both Kongthoranee - Ortikov and Guluzada - Jaosuyai on one card makes for a real table-setter for the flyweight division. I feel like both Thais have got their work cut out for them in what I feel are very difficult style matches, in an almost identical way. Guluzada doesn't move as much, as skittishly in and out as Ortikov, but the challenge his movement presents to a counter-puncher like Jaosuyai (and one like Jaosuyai who is relatively short-armed) is basically the same.

I feel like Guluzada is an even bigger threat than Ortikov in a way, though, as IMO he is a bigger threat to knock you out if he goes on the front foot. With Ortikov the KO threat comes if he can draw you in and counter, Guluzada can do that but he's also maybe much more of a threat with the big step-in attacks, closing the distance very quickly from outside and landing surprise attacks with shocking effect- he's more like Imangazaliev than Ortikov as a threat, in that way. And the way jaosuyai will sit back on the half back foot will invite him in, I just don't think Jaosuyai will be able to time him on the counter like he does nearly everyone else as Guluzada is so fast and pretty unpredictable.

I honestly feel both Thais could be kind of dominated here, i really hope I'm wrong as they are two of my favourites but a dominant (if uneventful) points win over Kongthoranee and a dominant win over Jaosuyai would not surprise me. Not that I feel the farang are that much better fighters (although I'd bet Guluzada will have a size advantage in there) just that they are horrible matchups for the two Thais.
 
IanEdwards said:
yeah agreed I have tended to self-censor (without really realising it) and look out for the Thai vs Thai matchups much more nowadays. On occasion the size mismatches have worked against the (weight-drained) farang, Soner Sen barely being able to throw a strike at the weight last time out being one.

I feel as though at least some of the size mismatches are related to the lack of Thais at the heavier weights. Poor old Tuengnueng is literally dwarfed every time he sets foot in the ring with is little spare tyre round the middle showing how little struggle he has in getting to the weight, last time out he was getting to the huge Dagestani nonetheless before getting sparked. Like 'curly ninja' last night if the very-big-at-the-weight guys have to fight at the pace you can see them flagging pretty quickly. But then when they land their best shots its the impact of a dude basically a stone heavier (or more) landing.

I have found not just the reffing but the scoring to be much less reliable lately; I thought Kongchai got an absolute gift decision last night (not a size mismatch ironically)
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Muscle is 75% water and fat is approx 10 to 20% water. So they can cut way more water weight to make weight. Dudes that are juicing can be healthy with much lower body fat %. Also the roids they take help cut fat and retain muscle. So by cheating they get a double advantage. Much bigger and the benefits of steroids.
I actually think Soner is natural which is why he gets the negative effects of cutting too much. (Low testosterone, low energy)
Teuneung needs to lose some weight he is straight up fat.
I was happy Walter lost against Kongchai. He fights out of phuket fight club and looks suspicious. But I did think Kongchai just shaded it. Maybe that is me being bias though.
 
BTW I think Shimon is a very much legit addition to the mix at flyweight, like Dem Russians/ the Mehdi Zahtout crowd which seems to be nearly every bloody fringe contender on the way up, he's a nightmare matchup for most of the Thais on the basis of his height and range, and movement, and kO threat all rolled into one. Pettonglor is decent and he pretty much literally didn't land a serious strike when trying his normal fimeu approach, and it was totally predictable that when he opened up in desperation to at least land something and give it a go (fair play, he didn't just numbly accept a points loss), he got KO'd.

I'd love to see him against any of Dem Russians, sadly I imagine there will be another couple of Thai sacrificial lambs fed to him first but he could be thrown in with any name at flyweight straight away IMO
 
Mickf said:
I actually think Soner is natural which is why he gets the negative effects of cutting too much. (Low testosterone, low energy)
I was happy Walter lost against Kongchai. He fights out of phuket fight club and looks suspicious. But I did think Kongchai just shaded it. Maybe that is me being bias though.
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ha, you probably know more than I do as I thought the exact opposite mate (Re: Sen and Walter juicing)!

Sen, viewed side-on, biiiiiiiiiiiiigggg roid-gut man, he's a (very) low bodyfat dude with a big protruding gut which is suss to me. can't recall what his traps look like to be fair but his overall look is of a very blocky-heavy upper body, more so than his lower body which again I take as suss.


Teuneung needs to lose some weight he is straight up fat.
oh hell yeah thats one you don't need to be an expert. But i guess One literally make him fight at the higher weight as he's basically one of the only Thais up there? he could drop 10lbs easy as anything
 
IanEdwards said:
ha, you probably know more than I do as I thought the exact opposite mate (Re: Sen and Walter juicing)!

Sen, viewed side-on, biiiiiiiiiiiiigggg roid-gut man, he's a (very) low bodyfat dude with a big protruding gut which is suss to me. can't recall what his traps look like to be fair but his overall look is of a very blocky-heavy upper body, more so than his lower body which again I take as suss.


Teuneung needs to lose some weight he is straight up fat.
oh hell yeah thats one you don't need to be an expert. But i guess One literally make him fight at the higher weight as he's basically one of the only Thais up there? he could drop 10lbs easy as anything
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Soner could very well be juicing. Id have to go back and have a look again.
 
Like I say I'm no longer expert at all mate but I do recognise the Anthony Joshua gut when I see it

On Kongchai, it amuses and frustrates me to hear the comms team totally misunderstanding the type of fighter he is. Every fight they talk about him as a pressure fighter when he is a poor fighter when he fights off the front foot. Anyone who backs off and makes him lead, he telegraphs his attacks, falls short a lot and gets countered, it's why I knew Walter would be a problem for him, just countering with the front hand. Whixh I thought he landed the majority of clean strikes FWIW Kongchai is far better with his man coming on to him, it's bizarre people who supposedly do this for a living haven't picked this up.
 
The more I think about it, the more I think One should do an 8 man tournament at flyweight

Its is by far their deepest division in terms of potential champ/challengers IMO, imagine:

Kongthoranee
Jaosuyai
Imangazaliev
Ortikov
Guluzada
Shimon
Rodtang
Nong O if he's still fighting and relevant

and I feel like I may be forgetting maybe another name or two. Nakrob would be one good alternate in case of injury/pullouts, they seem to be obsessed with finding reasons to provide good matchups for Khalilov so he'd probably be another.

4 Thais, 4 farang

compare that depth to bantam where currently they have Rambolek in the top 5, and the Lobo who got totally dominated by Kulabdam (who is actually top 5 bantam in the real world they just seem to have a hard time acknowledging it). They have Dayakayev at no5, it would be interesting to see Dayakayev's punch-heavy attack vs Kulabdam the farang-killer, for me that he is no5 suggests the lack of depth compared to flyweight, and I suspect he'd go the same way all the other punch-heavy farang go against Kulabdam.
 
One Fight Night 37 has a couple of interesting matches just announced

Luke Lessei (wondered where he had got to) vs Nico Carillo. Imagine Lessei will do as much spazzy footwork as his bambi legs can manage, will be hilarious if he thinks he can throw down with Nico.

Dayakayev vs Rambolek. I like that Dayakayev has been given a good step up with a live young fighter. *If* Rambolek fought a perfect tactical fight avoiding exchanges i think he wins but I feel he is generally too willing to exchange with his hands, and not *that* good at it, and that would be murder for him vs Dayakayev. Rambolek would need to fight like Yod-IQ but he basically isn't that dude I don't think.

Nakrob vs Jacob Smith, I really like this matchup for Nakrob giving him a winnable one, I think he chews Smith up and runs him over (can he do both? he can now) tbh. If competitive it would be a good or very good fight IMO as neither man moves away or avoids contact much and Nakrob will bring it right in Smith's face.
 
also, is

Samet Agdeve​

any good? he is fighting Kryklia for the 'inaugural' One heavyweight belt. seeing as just about everyone knows the scene better than I do I imagine someone can tell me how legit Samet is. I'd love Kryklia to have had more fights and tests because he really does look legit to me.
 
Samet won an 8 man tournament at Senshi recently . It had some veterans and decent fighters tehre.
Samet is a good prospect. He has a puncher's chance Very good power But he is too inexperieicned for this level.
ONE's heavyweight division only had 2 fighters before Samet signed. They wont' give it up for some reason. That's why Samet is pushed so fast.




 
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