Real Talk: How will Johnny Manziel do in the NFL?

[The Green Lantern]

How will he do in his rookie season? In his career?

The Browns didnt get him any help at WR in the draft, and now Josh Gordon is gone (may not be back for Cleveland again). I dont see them riding Ben Tate's back to success, either.

He is going to struggle imo. That division is going to be tough for him. I could see him being a major turnover machine. I say the Browns finish 5-11 at the very best. I wouldnt be surprised to see Brian Hoyer get some playing time, too, if Johnny really struggles.

Thoughts?

 

[Rob Battisti]

Torn Knee Ligament or Rotator Cuff in the first two seasons BOOK IT

 

[speakhandsforme]

I think JFF is one of those rare cases in which the rookie season (or first season he starts) will be HUGE in determining how his career will pan out. If he gets dominated in this rookie campaign, it's pretty safe to say his career won't pan out.

I'll be rooting for him though. Not because I like him. But because Sadtown needs him.

 

[RetiredWisFighter]

He'll end up with some MVPs in his career. He's like Tebow except he plays for all 4 quarters.

 

[PUO3]

He'll end up with some MVPs in his career. He's like Tebow except he plays for all 4 quarters.

And he can throw the ball.

 

[RR]

He'll end up with some MVPs in his career. He's like Tebow except he plays for all 4 quarters.

What? They aren't similar at all

 

[PUO3]

What? They aren't similar at all

Both white and run well, so theyre basically the same player.

AP and Marshawn are the same style RB.

 

[edco76]

I just don't see him doing well.

I think people always forget that it is a team sport. I think most of the quarterbacks that we consider "busts" really just got put on bad teams.

You really need a good line, good receivers, and an offense that is good for you. If you don't somehow manage to get that in the first 2-3 years, you get written off pretty quick.

 

[silvasurfer5253]

I think he's injured within 6 games, and will be in and out of the line-up from there after. Kinda like the modern M Vick.

Hopefully, I'm wrong, and he has a long healthy career a la Brees and Wilson.

 

[thebluerider]

goat

 

[o'dubhlaoich]

He should have went to the a situation like Carr did. A second round pick to a team that has a veteran QB he could learn behind and have very little pressure to do squat for a few years. Going to Cleveland will hurt him. He has the skills to succeed. Lets see if he can play within whatever offense the Browns have.

 

[edco76]

What? They aren't similar at all

Both white and run well, so theyre basically the same player.

AP and Marshawn are the same style RB.

Physically they arent the same but they have some similarity. Make plays with their legs, do a lot of improvising, seem to elevate team mates and play really hard.

 

[speakhandsforme]

I just don't see him doing well.

I think people always forget that it is a team sport. I think most of the quarterbacks that we consider "busts" really just got put on bad teams.

You really need a good line, good receivers, and an offense that is good for you. If you don't somehow manage to get that in the first 2-3 years, you get written off pretty quick.

If Josh Gordon wasn't a piece of poop, he'd have a pretty damn good offensive line, a very good tight end, a top 5 receiver, and a quality starting running back.

But Josh Gordon is poop.

 

[edco76]

If Josh Gordon wasn't a piece of poop, he'd have a pretty damn good offensive line, a very good tight end, a top 5 receiver, and a quality starting running back.

But Josh Gordon is poop.

I'm not saying it is universal, just that it does happen. Some people are busts no matter what.

You think Wilson and Kapernick would be the same guys had they been drafted by the Raiders or Cleveland? Chances are pretty good they would have gotten a shot, went 0-3 and discarded in favor of some washed up mid tier vet who may "have one more run in him".

 

[RetiredWisFighter]

What? They aren't similar at all

Physically they arent the same but they have some similarity. Make plays with their legs, do a lot of improvising, seem to elevate team mates and play really hard.

Exactly they get teammates to play better and seem to will teams to victory. Obviously Manziel is 1000x the passer Tebow is

 

[white-pony]

First DUI before the preseason is over.

Sexual assault by week 8.

Career ending injury by week 16.

Completely broke within two years.

 

[RollSonnenRoll]

Exactly they get teammates to play better and seem to will teams to victory. Obviously Manziel is 1000x the passer Tebow is

I agree with this. They used to describe Tebow as a "competitive force of nature" and I see the same things in Johnny. I think he's smart enough to know that he has to adapt his game to the NFL and he'll do that. Above all, he's that definitive team leader Cleveland needs. I just have this feeling he's going to be really good.

 

[ThinkGreen]

I think he can do well. Cleveland is going to focus a lot on running the ball and having a somewhat unconventional offense with Manziel. The loss of Gordon is huge but it will just force them to throw less, which will be good for Manziel actually.

Also, that division's defense is way weaker than it used to be. Cin has the best D by far to me. The days of elite D from Balt/Pitt is over.

 

[Easy The Great]

Hes gonna struggle in the winter months with pushing the ball downfield

 

[Razor]

I'll be rooting for him, it's going to be a rough couple of years for him.