Media RDR's thoughts on DDP vs. Khamzat after having trained with both.

[188912345]

Bud, a ton of that doesn't have anything to do with what I said and is getting into mental gymnastic territory.

Khamzat looked good against Whittaker, no doubt about it, but anyone I speak to who actually does BJJ tells me that choke shouldn't have finished whittaker.

You're trying to say that Burns and Usman would have success at MW simply because DDP and strickland (former Welterweights), went on to have success at MW. Come on dude, that's mental gymnastics and you know it. Not every fighter has the frame to move up a weight class successfully. We know DDP and Strickland are great middleweights. You're imagining that Burns and Usman would be.



As for mentioning injuries. I've seen you mention khamzat's hand injuries numerous times, so what do you mean you're not allowed to mention them? lol. Have you mentioned DDP going into the Whittaker fight with a foot injury? I doubt it.

Come on, why are you purposefully misinterpreting what I wrote?

I wasn't trying to say a thing about Burns or Usman as MWs.

I was more focusing on how someone (Ddp Strickland Whittaker Khamzat) can have questionable performances at WW, yet still become champions at MW.

Obviously, having LOSSES at the lower division is worse than winning a war against a former title contender?


I don't need to mention DDPs toe injury because nobody is downplaying that performance.

I'm specifically mentioning Khamzat's hand ligament injury because before it happened, Khamzat was 10-8ing him, yet people whine about his performances in round 2 and 3, when he was injured.

Also, Whittaker's injury.
Do you think Whittaker was in that position on purpose and was chilling and waiting for Khamzat to gas out?

Are you not impressed by anyone being able to dominate the fight completely against Whittaker, even if it only lasted about 3 minutes?

Sorry for the "mental gymnastics", I like to use logic and fairness.

If you want to measure Khamzat at his worse it's only fair to look at other top MWs at their worst, and maybe compare their relative accolades at a similar stage, and see whose flaws are "worse".

 

[Bradillac]

Does anyone seriously think Khamzat would have any problems beating Till, old Brunson, Strickland or Izzy? Except you?

Stylistically, those are clearly easier matchups than Burns/Usman/Whittaker.

Lmao, you can’t be serious. A 155er and short notice old 170er are harder matchups than some of the best guys at 185 with some of the best TDD and striking in the division?

Sorry to break it to you, but Chimaev likely wouldn’t be fighting for a title if he had to fight those guys first.

 

[AL-Tappo McSnappo]

lol

 

[rjmbrd]

I am not. It's literally bolded in your post I quoted.... You just out here straight up trolling at this point lol

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No you absolute bozo, you said I had something to do with 2FA.

 

[rjmbrd]

Should be timestamped, but cliffs:

• Leaning towards dricus because of the experience he (rdr) has training with both these guys
• Just doesn't see Khamzat finishing DDP early.
• Thinks DDP takes over in round 3,4 and 5 and edges it out
• Believes Dricus can hang with Khamzat on the ground even if taken down early.
• Hopes khamzat pulls out so that he can jump in.

Pretty interesting considering RDR himself is an absolute elite grappler in this division and still thinks Dricus can hang with Khamzat early.

@fortheo I got caught up in so much bullshit in this thread I forgot to tag you and ask the question I came in here for.

Can you describe the training he did with each guy (when in his career / what year, how long they trained, nature of the training, sparring?)

 

[188912345]

Lmao, you can’t be serious. A 155er and short notice old 170er are harder matchups than some of the best guys at 185 with some of the best TDD and striking in the division?

Sorry to break it to you, but Chimaev likely wouldn’t be fighting for a title if he had to fight those guys first.

So he would lose to Till, who went 1-5 in his last UFC-fights? The one win being a split decision vs Gastelum.

Or 39-year old Brunson on a 14 month layoff from a KO-loss? Who was finished in round 1 by Izzy and Rob?

Is that a better win than 36 year old Usman?
Or Burns, at the time being on a 5-1 streak at WW with the only loss being to Usman?

Give me what you're smoking, Brad.

 

[MigitAs]

RDR is the grinning Chad of the division rn

 

[fortheo]

@fortheo I got caught up in so much bullshit in this thread I forgot to tag you and ask the question I came in here for.

Can you describe the training he did with each guy (when in his career / what year, how long they trained, nature of the training, sparring?)

Not really, but from what i understand he hasn't trained with either guy for like 5 years. I believe he trained with Khamzat more recently than with DDP, though. I said it in another post of this thread, but I'm sure both guys are much different fighters than when RDR trained with them. I just thought his opinion was an interesting one since, regardless of how long ago it was, he has at least rolled with both guys.

Rockhold trained with both guys too, and with khamzat more recently, and he has a similar opinion as RDR.

 

[jsbx45]

I'm really hoping Dricus pulls this off. He's beat two douchebags in a row and there is no bigger douche than Chimaev so I hope that brings the best out of DDP again.

Plus Chimaev losing makes it logical to put him in vs Costa next.

Agreed. I fear that Chimmy might actually be a "generational" wrestling talent for MMA, and we'll have to deal with him for years. I hope DDP bitch slaps this dude, but so far no one has.

 

[chinarice]

No you absolute bozo, you said I had something to do with 2FA.

Jesus christ, go back to school. Your reading comprehension is absolutely atrocious

 

[knowsitall]

maybe it's you not admitting that DDP is a beast everywhere and there's more to MMA than wrestling. you literally have a guy who TRAINED WITH BOTH telling you he thinks DDP can hang with Khamzat and you're over here from your couch "wElL aCkChUaLLy"

generational grappler could barely hold on to short notice Usman and little Giblert. Khamzat is good, but you're acting like he has the equivalent of the touch of death in striking for grappling, and it's already proven untrue.

There is always one shertard engineer that knows better.

 

[rjmbrd]

Jesus christ, go back to school. Your reading comprehension is absolutely atrocious

You screen capped me on something unrelated - YOU didn't comprehend I no idea what you were referencing.

You're brash and uncouth, which too often rides side-car with being an moron.

 

[chinarice]

You screen capped me on something unrelated - YOU didn't comprehend I no idea what you were referencing.

You're brash and uncouth, which too often rides side-car with being an moron.

Breh, you're just embarrassing yourself at this point. I screen capped you on something you factually said about a controversial decision that never happened. The comment about 2FA was immediately after I made the comment about "sherdog's own judge being the only dummy that scored the fight for Burns and said it shouldn't be surprising from someone who endorsed 2FA on a MMA forum." That comment is literally about the Sherdog mod who scored the fight, which was in an image I posted for your eyeballs to see.

The 2FA comment had nothing to do with you and everything to do with the 1 person in the media that scored the fight for Burns. I simply called you out for your factual incorrect statement about this fight being controverial and that it was a split decision.

Good lord, man. lol

 

[mkess101]

"generational"

Hamfat would struggle against Matt Hughes

Retard take. Congrats.

 

[mkess101]

He's the greatest uncredentialed grappler in history brah.

Derp credentials mean everything yo!!

Or, we use our eyes and see him ragdoll everyone he faces and say "Hey, I've watched a shit ton of MMA over 2 and a half decades and this guy is a fucking killer."

But but but he gassed and struggled a couple times!!! Yeah, and still won those fights.

By all means, you should all bet your houses on DDP at + odds vs this fraud that can't grapple for shit. You'll all be rich!


Hey remember when Islam Makhachev ran through ADCC and then won that Olympic gold medal in Freestyle? Me either. Guy can't be an absolutely elite MMA grappler obviously...

Fucking mouth breathers trying to call me out LMFAO.

 

[Bradillac]

This will be a fun thread to come back to after the fight lol.

 

[TheNewGame]

Chael talked about it a couple months ago.



btw Chael is picking DDP to win

 

[Mmmmmmma1234]

Derp credentials mean everything yo!!

Or, we use our eyes and see him ragdoll everyone he faces and say "Hey, I've watched a shit ton of MMA over 2 and a half decades and this guy is a fucking killer."

But but but he gassed and struggled a couple times!!! Yeah, and still won those fights.

By all means, you should all bet your houses on DDP at + odds vs this fraud that can't grapple for shit. You'll all be rich!


Hey remember when Islam Makhachev ran through ADCC and then won that Olympic gold medal in Freestyle? Me either. Guy can't be an absolutely elite MMA grappler obviously...

Fucking mouth breathers trying to call me out LMFAO.

So triggered. win lose or draw your crowning him a grappling god is still all talk.

 

[188912345]

This will be a fun thread to come back to after the fight lol.

If you're always picking his opponent, sooner or later you might be right.

A broken clock is right twice a day.

 

[mkess101]

So triggered. win lose or draw your crowning him a grappling god is still all talk.

The typical reply of someone with nothing of substance. "Durr you're triggered!" Makes me laugh anytime I see that posted, it's like a sign that says "I'm the one gotten to".

I said he's a generational grappler (with the obvious context being MMA because...you know...that's the sport we're talking about). And he is, within that context. You squirming and changing my words doesn't change that.