Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Lord Ashley Barnes, Feb 14, 2016.
Firas knows what's up. No bias, no bullshit, just straight up professional objective opinion. The man is very educated in the fight game.
I got dubs so I cant like your post and gotta go old school and say "this".
The more I listen to this vlog the more I feel Firas feels that RDA is going to win. There's a strong undertone there but he doesn't wanna just come out and say it. But he's basically saying that RDA's body and leg kicks will damage Conor's lead leg and that he will dominate Conor on the ground when it gets there (that goes without saying).
He's basically saying in a nutshell that RDA HAS to avoid a boxing match at all costs, but he then follows it up with, "I don't think RDA is going to be foolish in this fight. He saw what happened to Aldo and the cat is out of the bag. He will look to get the very first takedown available and fight his fight. But he is more than competent on the feet as far as his kicks goes to damage the body and legs of McGregor." That's about as brief of a cliff note as I can get.
Firas bet 50/50 between the two of them and didn't make an official pick, but as you listen to him speak, he's basically saying RDA is much more well rounded and unlike anyone Conor has faced before. That his cardio and pace will be the undoing of McGregor if Conor can't end this fight early. Sounds like we're talking about a Vitor Belfort fight here.
I disagree with him in that I think if McGregor dominates the first few rounds and doesn't get the finish, he can grab a decision.
Otherwise, solid stuff from Firas. I think he overestimates RDA's striking a little bit as well, but great arguments from one of the best.
He says it's a 50/50 fight for the first 2 rounds, but after that he says it's 80/20 for RDA in his opinion... pretty much what I believe as well.
Sees custom title under username, knows instantly there's bias involved in your opinion.... Reads your post pretty much disagreeing on the majority of Firas fucking Zahabi's analysis of the fight......... I got plenty of lols. Thanks bud.
Yeah I caught that later on. He's right. Conor better be able to finish this fight within a round to 1 1/2 rounds because he wants nothing to do with a war of attrition versus RDA. He will get the hammer brought down on his ass hard. He has to get an early finish or he's gonna get finished by rounds 3 or 4. He doesn't have a competent guard to deal with RDA's battering style from top position. The ONLY reason Pettis survived to the final bell is because his guard is solid.
Lol what? I think Firas made some great points. If the fight goes past the 2nd, I would favor RDA just not as heavily as him.
I would suggest reading my post again, if it helps your comprehension of the content.
Cant watch it on mobile notif
I think I'm in favor of Firas' opinion because it matches what I've already been saying. By him saying it only makes me that more confident that I was onto something. Conor McGregor is effective at what he does early on, but a lot like Vitor, the moment someone weathers the early storm and pushes McGregor, they're gonna have the fight in their hands.
Whether you wanna admit it or not, even though Conor won against Mendes, that fight was very telling to anyone with a functioning brain. Not only could Conor not get up off his back or avoid damage while down there, he looked pretty winded after a 1 1/2 round fight. If the fight stays at RDA's pace, Conor is gonna get drowned and eventually finished. This fight won't go to decision, I would bet whatever on that. It's either Conor by early KO or RDA by 3rd of 4th round TKO on the ground after a beating.
He does NOT want a war of attrition with RDA. This is not even up for debate. It's pretty factual. He will get outmuscled and out worked if this fight goes anywhere past the 2nd round. RDA has too much core strength, unlimited cardio, relentless pace and a 3rd degree BB in BJJ with a solid offensive wrestling game.
We can agree to disagree but I'm picturing a fight that's gonna look similar to Randy Couture vs. Vitor Belfort 3 at UFC 49.
RDA is not more well rounded then Aldo.
Just one thing. The fight between conor and aldo went nothing like Firas described. I'm not disrepecting his view.
RDA is more dangerous. Even Firas said that. RDA has much better cardio than Aldo does. He's a much better grappler both on paper and in the cage than Aldo is. He's a southpaw and presents different challenges than Aldo did. He's stronger physically than Aldo and more filled out. He's more dense and heavy than Aldo.
Aldo fought a stupid fight, but that's his own fault. Can Aldo beat Conor? Sure he can, but he didn't because he let Conor rent space between his ears. Combine that with the fact that Conor is legit, and Aldo was ripe for a loss. RDA will fight with a gameplan and to his full potential. So while you keep bringin up Aldo into this discussion, you're exposing a huge lack of intelligence because Aldo doesn't mean fuck all to THIS fight.
Conor isn't fighting Aldo who's been injured for the past 6 years off and on and had to pull out of 6 title fights, including one with Conor himself. He's fighting a motherfucking killer who's been finishing world class fighters in a higher weight class than Conor's and two of them went up to Welterweight!
Firas loves saying death touch, he should make the t shirts
He also likes pedalada apparently.
My counter to this, is we have no evidence to believe this to be true. The only decision Conor McGregor has been taken to in his career was a dominant victory over Max Holloway which was so dominant, he nabbed a 30-26 score. Holloway is not a slouch in the striking and tried to standup with Conor. We saw what happened. Max got son'd. For the record, I am excited for that rematch sometime in the future. Max has looked great since that loss and is steadily improving. Being partial to Hawaii, I can't help but root for the guy.
The only fight where he was in some sort of discomfort was the Mendes fight, where he weathered the grappling storm and KO'd Mendes in the 2nd. Labeling him a 'Vitor'-type is unjustified, and not really backed by reality.
I think Conor looked great in the sense, his defensive guard looked comfortable. Now, did he get taken down and smashed a bit? You better believe he did. It was also against the best wrestler in the division. Conor still knocked him out and dominated him on the feet for most exchanges. RDA is not as good of a wrestler as Mendes. RDA usually only gets takedowns against the cage, but his control game on the ground is superior to Mendes' without a doubt. I can see this fight reaching a decision.
Well, we can agree on something. Conor wants to keep the fight standing and not in the clinch/grappling. The onus is on RDA to take him there and I think he gets caught and hurt enough for him to not be able to implement his gameplan.
Still, this is an exciting fight. I can't wait for March.
I think he gives RDA too much credit. As everyone else in the game they need to take conor down ASAP and keep him there else its over.
RDA >>>>>>>>>>> Max Holloway
Firas' analysis >>>>>>>>>> yours
March 6th, lots of these threads are gonna get bumped. Either way, I haven't been this fired up for a fight since Shogun vs. Machida 2. I'm stoked!
So you don't have an actual response. Cheers for the conversation whilst it lasted.
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