RDA is cleaning up nicely

Dorkman said:
Whole lot of this. Ferguson is a lot grittier than Pettis I find.
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That's because he hasn't fought RDA yet. He has looked grittier against a much lower level of competition. Look at what RDA just did to Cerrone, and previously did to Bendo. Pettis is a beast for lasting five rounds. I don't think Tony would last one round. RDA is a huge step-up from Barboza, who Tony struggled with.
 
RDA is looking better than ever. He is truly a beast. I'd love to see him against Khabib once again. If Khabib beats RDA with ease like the first time, nobody has a chance in hell to defeat him.
 
fightdonttweet said:
slightly better hands, worse kicks, similar lack of TDD except with a worse ground game. RDA runs through him.
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Tony has very slightly better hands, a more innovative ground game, and is more of a forward pressure kind of fighter. Both have a lethal guard (Pettis's Armbar is still a thing of beauty,) and Pettis is a bit more defensively solid, but that's where the similarities end. Ferguson isn't afraid to initiate the ground game no matter the situation, while Pettis rarely initiates it.

Pettis focuses on using his space to land his kicks and work his opponent with them, while Tony pressures his opponent with his jab and cross. RDA doesn't run through Ferguson. If anything, a fight with them would be more interesting than the Pettis rematch due to RDA and Ferguson both having great cardio, suited for a fast paced fight. If Alvarez beats Pettis, we'll hopefully get to see that Ferguson/RDA fight come to fruition.
 
CountOfSoCal said:
Tony has very slightly better hands, a more innovative ground game, and is more of a forward pressure kind of fighter. Both have a lethal guard (Pettis's Armbar is still a thing of beauty,) and Pettis is a bit more defensively solid, but that's where the similarities end. Ferguson isn't afraid to initiate the ground game no matter the situation, while Pettis rarely initiates it.

Pettis focuses on using his space to land his kicks and work his opponent with them, while Tony pressures his opponent with his jab and cross. RDA doesn't run through Ferguson. If anything, a fight with them would be more interesting than the Pettis rematch due to RDA and Ferguson both having great cardio, suited for a fast paced fight. If Alvarez beats Pettis, we'll hopefully get to see that Ferguson/RDA fight come to fruition.
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Disagree entirely. Pettis is way slicker on the ground than Tony. He's proven it time and time again. Even in his UFC debut he was neutralizing Guida's ground game, then he went on to submit Bendo and Gil. You're underrating him because of the RDA fight, but Tony would have absolutely nothing for RDA. Getting Barboza in a darce choke isn't that meaningful since Barboza isn't an accomplished grappler.

And the fact that Tony is more willing to initiate the ground game only means that he will be on the ground for a longer period of time. Against a guy who is much better than him at grappling.
 
@Macalpinerules I'd have to see RDA in formal attire to be sure.:D

But he does seem to be doing just fine as champ.:)
 
Inverse said:
RDA was probably at his peak or very, very close to it when he fought Khabib, he was on a 6 fight win streak with the win before fighting Khabib, being over Cerrone.
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No, that was RDA's worst camp ever. I still think Khabib would take him, but that was nowhere close to 100% RDA.

The improvements in his S&C with that new coach have been since Khabib too.
 
Holy shit! Cowboy got rekt.

I felt bad for him, I mean he had no answer at all, he just ate all of RDA's punches lol.

This guy is insane! Who can stop him right now? Khabib is going to 145, right?

I see RDA dominating the LW division now for at least 2 years.
 
fightdonttweet said:
Disagree entirely. Pettis is way slicker on the ground than Tony. He's proven it time and time again. Even in his UFC debut he was neutralizing Guida's ground game, then he went on to submit Bendo and Gil. You're underrating him because of the RDA fight, but Tony would have absolutely nothing for RDA. Getting Barboza in a darce choke isn't that meaningful since Barboza isn't an accomplished grappler.

And the fact that Tony is more willing to initiate the ground game only means that he will be on the ground for a longer period of time. Against a guy who is much better than him at grappling.
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Ferguson has the best D'Arce choke in MMA (can hit it from like 5422645 different angles, like an RKO) and trains BJJ under Eddie Bravo. I'd say his ground game is at the very least on par with Pettis. Setting that aside, Ferguson came in as a wrestler, and IIRC he KO'd everyone in the TUF house en route to becoming champ. So adding to arguably his strongest suit now (his wicked jits game), he already has a solid wrestleboxer base, and has been working some nice kicks into his arsenal too.

I'd take El Cucuy over Pettis but that would honestly be a pick'em. Both guys are top 5 in the most stacked division in the UFC so no matter what if that bout happened I'd jizz
 
Everyone on Sherdog is salivating for a Khabib rematch, while Khabib is a day away from retirement lol,

The division is fucked..Only Conor can save it.
 
fightdonttweet said:
Disagree entirely. Pettis is way slicker on the ground than Tony. He's proven it time and time again. Even in his UFC debut he was neutralizing Guida's ground game, then he went on to submit Bendo and Gil. You're underrating him because of the RDA fight, but Tony would have absolutely nothing for RDA. Getting Barboza in a darce choke isn't that meaningful since Barboza isn't an accomplished grappler.

And the fact that Tony is more willing to initiate the ground game only means that he will be on the ground for a longer period of time. Against a guy who is much better than him at grappling.
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I feel like you're reaching here.
 
RDA is the best 155er on the planet. Healthy Khabib would lose handily.

People even mentioning Ferguson challenging RDA ought to be ridiculed. Ferguson is a LW gatekeeper, at his absolute best.
 
The Pot said:
Ferguson has the best D'Arce choke in MMA (can hit it from like 5422645 different angles, like an RKO) and trains BJJ under Eddie Bravo. I'd say his ground game is at the very least on par with Pettis. Setting that aside, Ferguson came in as a wrestler, and IIRC he KO'd everyone in the TUF house en route to becoming champ. So adding to arguably his strongest suit now (his wicked jits game), he already has a solid wrestleboxer base, and has been working some nice kicks into his arsenal too.

I'd take El Cucuy over Pettis but that would honestly be a pick'em. Both guys are top 5 in the most stacked division in the UFC so no matter what if that bout happened I'd jizz
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I watched that entire season of TUF when it aired. His success there says nothing about him fighting Pettis or RDA. It was a terrible season with Tony being the only noteworthy fighter. Unless you count Jury who didnt fight.

I've followed Tony since TUF and Pettis since the WEC. I would stake money on Pettis being the better grappler.
 
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