Yes I’ve heard the sci fi explanation and its nonsense. Maybe you’re new to the thread- but a few days ago I brought up Occam’s razor? Sure it’s not exactly a law of nature, but I find it works pretty well in this scenario.
The reality is that he, and other people who come up with these explanations, have already reached a conclusion that they want. These kinds of explanations are proffered when it runs into the obvious faults in their belief. They’re always filled with plugs to cover the holes in it. So a space ship crashed. The government covered it up with only a few people having seen it. This technology is so advanced that it would be like a jet plane crashing in ancient Egypt and expecting them to reverse engineer it, yet we were able to pull it off. Hell it would likely be even harder than that because it’s unlikely their logical thought processes would be the same.
And now we fly around it in complete government secrecy for reasons but don’t actually use it for anything? We don’t blip over to China and drop a bomb on a CCP meeting and blip back? We don’t travel the universe? We just show it off to a few loons here and there for the last five decades?
I’m about to write something else that annoyingly I’m sure you’re already aware of when you wrote your post, but wrote it anyways. When it comes to these sightings being reported around military sites, you have heard of confirmation bias I assume? I feel like you’re assuming I’m being exposed to most of this stuff for the first time but I don’t know why you would. We’ve all had the internet for and been on here for a while.
I don’t know what ascertations you’re in here defending from him, but itt he has some in and thought he was going to make a fool of everyone and then post a clearly fake video. Then he calls everyone frauds for not accepting his fake evidence as legitimate. In his mind science seems to mean accepting any evidence without scrutiny. And what exactly any of us are guilty of being fraudulent of, I’m not exactly sure since I’ve yet to see anyone in here claim they were a scientist
Like I said I don't defend all of his statements but we have a good relationship and he has a keen awareness of a scientism the new religion and how it infects people's minds. Not sure if you're aware of this but there are scientists saying this too. It's not as if it's just friends UFO people.
You can bring up okams razor if you want, but as we can both readily admit it means nothing because it's not a law but also more importantly we don't have any data to base likelihood on!!! so it's just an appeal to some kind of authority.
But I think probability theory might have something to say about this. I have to ask myself what are the odds that there would be reports of UFOs across centuries, across cultures, across education levels and across demographics often sharing similar stories?... Thousands and thousands and thousands of accounts rolling in? I have to ask myself what I think explains that evidence?
There's just a few options. One is mistaken identity which is easily ruled out when you actually read the accounts and realize it wasn't just a glimpse of something that someone mistook, but that many of the sightings are drawn out, have multiple witnesses and include multiple events... But there could also be hallucinations, but I find that to be ridiculously impossible for lots of reasons but especially when multiple witnesses see the same thing and some of those witnesses are not even in the same group... There's just no way I believe that that many people across centuries, cultures, age groups, and education levels are all hallucinating the same thing... It doesn't make sense. We probably wouldn't survive as a species if that were the case. In any case, I find that highly unlikely, far less plausible than people are actually seeing something that we don't have a grasp on.
So it is absolutely reasonable and level headed to conclude that there's a very strong possibility that there really is a phenomenon happening that we don't have any idea about. There's nothing fringe about that way of thinking if you're taking in all of the data as I am.
What is it that they're seeing? well I can't say for sure... I have a pet theory but I don't claim for it to be the truth. I just keep an open mind about it, but if you take in all of the accounts and all of the evidence, and I have taken in hundreds and hundreds of accounts... that's my sample size.... Probably 500 to 1,000 accounts. The only thing that makes sense is they are actually seeing something there that we don't understand.
And that's what gets people hypothesizing about aliens from other planets interdimensional beings or mythological manifestations as carl jung clearly wrote about with this phenomenon. Personally, I am inclined to believe that we are witnessing the evolution of a global mythological phenomenon in the sense that jung meant it when he wrote of it. Personally, after reading hundreds and hundreds of accounts, that is the hypothesis that makes the most sense to me of the phenomenon, especially when you start realizing it has some similarities with paranormal accounts and even Bigfoot accounts and even accounts that go back centuries.
There are even groups of educated individuals. Some of them with PhDs in the sciences convinced that certain practices (rituals) performed can create an event where a sighting takes place... You find similar accounts from UFO people bigfoot's people and paranormal communities.
Now to me that sounds like the beginnings of pagan religion started over again after having slayed religion from our minds and beginning now anew in new forms.
But we must be clear about carl jungs theory on this... In no way does he believe this emerging mythology is a hallucination or a mass hallucination either. He believes there's a force that interacts with human consciousness that allows for mythological manifestations from our minds to manifest in physical reality. Carl Jung felt that was the best explanation for the phenomenon after actually looking into it deeply and also after having his own encounters with various unexplainable phenomenon.
Although the renowned quantum physicist Wolfgang Smith does not apply his theories of consciousness and quantum physics to the paranormal, he does apply them directly as an explanation for why various religious groups have manifestations of the same principle but with different forms.
All of this though just to say that mocking people who are into this kind of thing and interested is a fool's game. There are better minds than yours thinking deeply about these subjects and that's the kind of conversations I'm interested in having and used to listening to and engaging in.
