Rampage explains how outer space is a hoax

[Deleted member 577981]

It's not a major part of this fascinating discussion, but the polarity between so-called science people and science deniers is described here and it is discussed as a real problem that both sides are losing authentic ground while fighting/reacting to the other.

This discussion is actually about the metacrisis and what lies underneath. All of the many seemingly different crises we face today. It's not all that related to this topic except tangentially, but it is well worth listening to anyone who's interested in really understanding what's going on on the planet.

 

[dirtypablo]

"You better not deny it". That's definitely called a religion.

Take a look at the video of India supposedly landing on the moon. Looks like a video game from the 80's haha

The world is a stage.

Lol, that's an animation - it wasn't supposed to be real live footage.

 

[dirtypablo]

It's not a major part of this fascinating discussion, but the polarity between so-called science people and science deniers is described here and it is discussed as a real problem that both sides are losing authentic ground while fighting/reacting to the other.

This discussion is actually about the metacrisis and what lies underneath. All of the many seemingly different crises we face today. It's not all that related to this topic except tangentially, but it is well worth listening to anyone who's interested in really understanding what's going on on the planet.

Bret Weinstein is a charlatan hack who peddles pseudoscience nonsense.

 

[CyberRubberDuck]

What lies, specifically?

For a start, the blatantly fake images mentioned in the comment I was replying to.
Then there's the moon landing. Funny though, anyone that believes we went to the moon will defend this belief with insults and claims that the non believer is a conspiracy nut.
Then there's the non stop fake astronauts pretending they're on the space station. That's one of the funniest things to see people swallowing.
NASA was literally formed by Nazis. And it has people trusting everything they say. Not sure if it's funny or tragic.

 

[BearGrounds]

I've asked for evidence of a FTL aircraft, which you claim existed. You provided me a link to an inconclusive study on the theoretical possibility of the subject, and a conspiracy theory website. I asked for something more specific from that website, but you refuse to provide it, and we both know why - because there is nothing there other than what I already mentioned - a bunch of old government papers discussing the possibility, and if you provided something concrete you would have to acknowledge that, so you keep it vague - 'Its there, you've just gotta look!' Since you wouldn't provide anything from that site, I searched the website for the topic, and surprise surprise, I find exactly what I expected - a bunch of old government papers discussing the theoretical possibility. This is not evidence of an existing FTL aircraft. It's evidence that people like yourself jump to wild conclusions based on very limited data.

And lol at me living under a rock. Unlike you, I've actually got a technical background, do technical work, and have been in top secret military contractor labs. The top secret stuff isn't at all what you dorks think it is - its the small details around known physics and engineering that take something that works to something that works flawlessly or to a much higher degree of precision.

You asked for evidence, and you got some. As expected, you're just dismissing it all and asking for more. It's what you guys always do.

Here's video of the TR3B taking off at superluminal speed (which you'll say is fake and debunked).



Nothing will suffice for you people, so you just have to stay in your lane and under the thumb of those lying to you. You can't be helped.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

outer space is a hoax?
that's a new one.

 

[wwkirk]

Here's video of the TR3B taking off at superluminal speed

How can something moving at superluminal speed be visible in any manner? That contradicts Star Trek, Babylon 5, Galaxy Quest, and tons of other Sci-Fi.

 

[BearGrounds]

How can something moving at superluminal speed be visible in any manner? That contradicts Star Trek, Babylon 5, Galaxy Quest, and tons of other Sci-Fi.

It's moving off at superluminal speed, hence why it appears to just blink out of existence. You can't see it leave at that speed, you can only observe it while it's cruising around in local travel mode.

 

[dirtypablo]

You asked for evidence, and you got some. As expected, you're just dismissing it all and asking for more. It's what you guys always do.

Here's video of the TR3B taking off at superluminal speed (which you'll say is fake and debunked).



Nothing will suffice for you people, so you just have to stay in your lane and under the thumb of those lying to you. You can't be helped.

You did not provide evidence of an existing FTL aircraft. A paper discussing the theoretical possibility of something isn't evidence that it exists. Is a sketch I draw of a unicorn proof of unicorns? The fact that you think what you provided is proof of anything simply shows how completely unqualified you are to evaluate any form of evidence.

 

[KnockoutsGalore]

For a start, the blatantly fake images mentioned in the comment I was replying to.
Then there's the moon landing. Funny though, anyone that believes we went to the moon will defend this belief with insults and claims that the non believer is a conspiracy nut.
Then there's the non stop fake astronauts pretending they're on the space station. That's one of the funniest things to see people swallowing.
NASA was literally formed by Nazis. And it has people trusting everything they say. Not sure if it's funny or tragic.

Out of the myriad of things wrong with this post, I really only have one question:
- If the moon landing never happened, how do you explain that anyone with a pulsing laser can bounce the beam off of a mirror on the surface and register the amount of time that it takes to return?

How Do You Solve a Moon Mystery? Fire a Laser at It (Published 2020)

Researchers have used reflective prisms left on the moon’s surface for decades, but had increasingly seen problems with their effectiveness.

www.nytimes.com

Unless you believe that ALL astronomers and scientists are 'in on it'.

 

[BearGrounds]

You did not provide evidence of an existing FTL aircraft. A paper discussing the theoretical possibility of something isn't evidence that it exists. Is a sketch I draw of a unicorn proof of unicorns? The fact that you think what you provided is proof of anything simply shows how completely unqualified you are to evaluate any form of evidence.

Says the guy that likened unicorns to something that the government studies and documents. It couldn't be any more clear after that, that you don't know anything about the topic you're dismissing, intentionally.

And it's evidence, I never claimed it was proof. You should understand the distinction.

 

[BearGrounds]

Inderdasting.

Black Science Guy finds it hard to argue against a creator:

 

[HereticBD]

"You better not deny it". That's definitely called a religion.

Take a look at the video of India supposedly landing on the moon. Looks like a video game from the 80's haha

The world is a stage.

It's just a real time simulation of the event, so people could follow along. It's not being presented as real footage.

 

[dirtypablo]

Says the guy that likened unicorns to something that the government studies and documents. It couldn't be any more clear after that, that you don't know anything about the topic you're dismissing, intentionally.

And it's evidence, I never claimed it was proof. You should understand the distinction.

There's as much evidence for the existence of unicorns as there is for the existence as FTL aircraft. What you provided is evidence that scientists have studied the possibility. There's not a shred of evidence that is has gone any further than early, inconclusive studies.

 

[BearGrounds]

There's as much evidence for the existence of unicorns as there is for the existence as FTL aircraft. What you provided is evidence that scientists have studied the possibility. There's not a shred of evidence that is has gone any further than early, inconclusive studies.

 

[dirtypablo]

Does the fact that there are multiple posters on this site who actually work in technical fields, who all disagree with the nonsense you post not tell you anything?

 

[CyberRubberDuck]

Out of the myriad of things wrong with this post, I really only have one question:
- If the moon landing never happened, how do you explain that anyone with a pulsing laser can bounce the beam off of a mirror on the surface and register the amount of time that it takes to return?

How Do You Solve a Moon Mystery? Fire a Laser at It (Published 2020)

Researchers have used reflective prisms left on the moon’s surface for decades, but had increasingly seen problems with their effectiveness.

www.nytimes.com

Unless you believe that ALL astronomers and scientists are 'in on it'.

That's your only question? Asking me something based around some multi million pound experiment that very very few people can do?
Do you know the level of equipment needed (and who has access to it) for such an experiment with lasers?
That's really your question?

 

[BearGrounds]

Does the fact that there are multiple posters on this site who actually work in technical fields, who all disagree with the nonsense you post not tell you anything?

There's plenty on the other side that agree with me entirely, so I'm not seeing your point. There's people from literally all walks of life that report seeing craft defying our known physical laws, you should know that (but you don't, because you intentionally don't know shit about the UFO phenomena).

Here's one of my favorite eyewitness accounts (BTW eyewitness accounts are considered evidence):

 

[Deleted member 577981]

Bret Weinstein is a charlatan hack who peddles pseudoscience nonsense.

lol. thats funny to me. I kind of knew you would have some kind of emotional reaction to him.

you never posted all the serious debunking of meldrums work you have read. I am still quite interested in it and I even did some looking but could not find anything legitimate other than cheap slander.

if that work exists I would be really grateful to read it man.

I hope you catch this edit but I would actually be very interested in reading up on Eric's pseudoscience so if you can post that too I would be interested!!

 

[KnockoutsGalore]

That's your only question? Asking me something based around some multi million pound experiment that very very few people can do?
Do you know the level of equipment needed (and who has access to it) for such an experiment with lasers?
That's really your question?

It is my only question, and you didn't answer it.