Rampage’s son beats a wrestler into a coma! At in indie wrestling event!

[Darkjjb]

What a POS.

Why would he do that?

No self control. Here is the result 1 man in hospital and 1 will finish in jail.

 

[volodya]

What weight class is this fucking kid? Also in some article I read he is 0-1 as a pro fighter, any vid of that fight?

 

[stronghulk]

He treats him like a lolcow, not a son. He was literally calling him effeminate (live over the phone) for being at the show and for being a pushover.

Raj is the monster that Page created.

I have always been such a fan of Rampage, him and Vitor made me love this sport. But he has always been a real bully, look at those old videos in Japan. He does pick on weak, fat or in his eyes ugly people. I love to roast people, and get roasted, but when you can tell someone doesn't like it, you stop.. Rampage never does. Look at TUF, the tittie guy. Sure it was fun but damn it can be fun for that guy, he said enough but will always be known for that.

And in the video Raja said im tired to be picked at or being made fun of, something like that. And that is all Rampage does to him.. Some people just can't take it in the end, I've worked with several people who was like this, and I stopped because it just becomes bullying when they aren't in on it.

It isn't an excuse for anything but an explanation to alot of things we see in society, people just snapping when they reach a point were they have had enough. He should have done this to Rampage, and it hurts to say that to a guy I idolized when I was young.

 

[GoodBadHBK]

What weight class is this fucking kid? Also in some article I read he is 0-1 as a pro fighter, any vid of that fight?

 

[Da Speeit]

Great vid

That dude who was involved seems like a very good dude and says everything that should be said



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This is just so disgusting, I hope to God all these people see the inside of a prison cell... but it's CA so I really doubt it
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This is in the public eye and definitely looks bad on its face, but he's 1000 percent right to tell them not to talk to anyone without first contacting legal counsel.
It's literally their right in the constitution, and the last thing you would want to happen to anyone who was not directly involved in something that is this big of a deal is to talk their way into an assault/accessory charge for a trigger happy DA or a scheming civil lawyer.

All the attention should be on Raja for what he did and the person who facilitated this. Involving yourself by trying to help people who would love to make a headline or example out of you (be it a lawyer, politician, etc.) is super dangerous for a private citizen without legal counsel. What many are taking as "Keep your mouth shut to save the promotion" is more realistically "Do not volunteer information about the situation without first consulting your or our lawyer and taking their guidance".

I think the promotion is partially at fault, but there are about 20 or so guys who just happened to witness all of this not knowing some pscyho was going to try to kill one of their friends. I would very much like anyone who didn't contribute to this not be punished for not predicting the future.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

There's a reason they brought in Big John McCarthy (bigger than most of the fighters) for UFC 1. I believe he even had some BJJ training with the Gracies, which again, was more than most fighters had.

The "Tough Guys" promotion from late 70s/early 80s (an early NHB attempt) also had big, strong refs. Again, bigger than most of the fighters.

Haven't watched pro wrasslin' in years, but I recall the average ref looking more like a store manager who plays golf, surrounded by massive guys who could toss him out of the ring (and sometimes did).

Usually in pro wrestling the refs are intentionally small to make the wrestlers look bigger in comparison.

 

[BluntForceTrama]

Young Rog you in deep Kaka, young man.


Gotdayum whyd u throw it away like that

 

[Hellowhosthat]

The GSP bit was about fighters being unable to control their emotions. Many can.
The person I originally replied to stated this:



He's a guy that got worked by a regional jobber, is 5'9" and 200lbs after Thanksgiving dinner.

He is not "highly trained" he is a guy who is the son of an MMA fighter, and yes, trains and has had a pro fight, this does not make him automatically some prison alpha, nor a "highly trained" fighter, nor the only guy in the can who has trained and possibly even fought pro in the can.

Raja is below DWCS fighter levels, those guys are called cans all the time, no one is raving about how highly trained they all are.

Seems missing context pre-contrarian-take was your issue here

Tbf as much as people bag on DWCS fighters a DWCS fighter against someone who works out a lot would be an absolute annihilation in a fight.

 

[Misanthropist]

Did some of those female reporters ever called Rampage out for his humping?

If he does this on camera without an ounce of shame/embarrassment then i'm pretty sure he did it a lot.

 

[Thepaintbucket]

I liked it when he had behind the scene stories like gym wars or MMA training or competing in wrestling. His Matt Lindland stories were crazy. It seems like most of his other stuff is drawn out nonsense. Kind of like Jordan Peterson (sp) who also has a whiny, nasally voice.

Yeah man. Backroom stories. His interactions with past opponents and other fighters. Who Chael trained with. His heroes. Chaels legitimate thoughts on an upcoming matchup.

Everything he's been doing over the last few years has been click bait and it's not even good bait.

 

[TheMaster]

Dave Meltzer, revered wrestling journalist and founder of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, said that Jackson’s attack “may be the worst thing I’ve ever seen in a ring”.


Guess Dave doesn't understand the incredible complexities of pro wrestling.

Ok look, it's Sonnen giving the contrary opinion to everyone like it's something that he really believes and not some lame ass speech to get clicks.

Its a completely moronic and biased take cmon man

Its a valid take as the picture is always bigger than the thousands of reactive responses since this happened.

So this is pro wrestling. Yup, just to further blur the lines the match continued after that and they actually pinned him after.




RVD has done a good breakdown, long but the first half hour is worth watching and he is not justifying what happened but he clarifies things.



The main points he makes are:

- The beer can. Smashing someone in the face with a beer can when they aren't expecting it is not normal or ok in the pro wrestling world even if you know them, let alone if you dont and have never met them before

-Raja only accepted the apology because he was told he could get payback in the ring. He was told that he could throw real punches or receipts, adding to the confusion of someone who didn't know how to throw fake punches anyway.

- He was concussed and has obvious psychological problems which people are downplaying.

- He was being told he looked like a bitch to the world by everyone on his stream so his mindset was very clear. It wasnt some secret he was scheming to do.
Since he isnt the brightest and isnt in on pro wrestling in his mind and what he was being told he just looked like he got punked by some white biker looking dude and did nothing about it.

- He said "I'm going to keep punching until someone pulls me off" and he did. No one pulled him off for a long time which they are at fault for especially the 'ref' and other wrestlers.

- We assume that he knew he was unconscious, but he may not have. He was punching and in a rage and although it looks obvious from the video it may not have been in there.

Again, I'm not defending the excessive actions but this larger context is necessary.
As I said before, as long as Stu recovers which it looks like he will, it wouldn’t surpise me if they turn this into a pro wrestling angle.

Since it just became "more real than MMA" and its brought more media attention to them than they could have ever dreamed of , it means theres a good chance they will try tomake money off of it.

 

[Evbo]

@Evbo @HHJ @HereticBD @Soggust I was checking out suggestions for a JCS replacement in this thread and found this channel, which has REALLY impressed me. I've watched these two videos so far and they've been amazing.

The first one is just a hilarious crime where a brilliant NASA astronaut hatched a diabolical murder plot (which involved a terrible disguise and shitting herself for two days as she laid the trap, just like they do in space) and the second one is just... breathtaking.

It's about an absolute moron who thinks he's the smartest person in the world, which leads to him taking the stand, making idiotic jokes ("Did you have these zip-ties with you?" "Don't leave home without them!"), telling the court that he's not on the stand to answer questions and they should talk to his lawyer, then finally having a narcissistic power struggle where he pompously explains to the idiotic prosecutor that it was perfectly reasonable for him to murder the woman and concoct an excuse that makes him seem like the victim, even though it makes no sense to anybody (including himself).

Again, I've seen a lot of crazy videos like this (like Darryl Brooks), but have somehow never seen this guy before, and his court presence is just absolutely breathtaking:

Thanks mate, I'll check it out this eve!

 

[Trabaho]

What weight class is this fucking kid? Also in some article I read he is 0-1 as a pro fighter, any vid of that fight?

he is 4-0 in the ammis and perhaps 1-1 in the pros ? LW but cuts 30 pounds so walks around probably 190.

 

[SamuraiBro]

Chael has major CTE. Funny guy sometimes, but he’s retarded.

 

[Trabaho]

Kevin is right. Good man.

 

[don't ask]

"Your Honor, in the words of Baldwin IV, your soul is in your keeping. Your decisions are yours and yours alone, and no egging on would cause any reasonable person to believe that they had the right to physically assault someone with a possibility of death by punching them while they are unconscious 22 times."

If I was a prosecutor, I'd be clawing for this case. Easy, publicity fueled slam dunk.

Dude...that's not just a "bridge too far"...it's absurd. There's literally no place in society ANYWHERE that allows for ambiguity in terms of savagely beating a clearly unconscious person. Any lawyer (I don't care if he's $1500/hour) that tries a defense of "Well your honor, see, they told him to get payback and it's easy to see how he could've thought this was what they meant" is delusional. For 2 reasons.

First, because no judge or jury would likely believe it AT ALL. They'd play the video and say "What human being anywhere, under ANY circumstances, would think doing THIS to an unsuspecting person is reasonable 'payback' for feeling 'disrespected'"? That's the first point. Second, even if somehow they got a judge or jury to buy into believing that Raj actually thought that's what was meant by "get payback", you don't get absolved of responsibility because "someone told you to do it". It doesn't even matter if the person who told you is in a position of authority over you (which they weren't over Raj). Especially with an egregious and violent crime.

You can't tell me you haven't seen miscarriages of justice this bad in the legal system before. I could see an expensive lawyer arguing that the promotion and AJ share blame, that they were telling a trained fighter to get him back and that Raja had no way of knowing that "hit him for real" meant "don't hit him for real".

Boom, reasonable doubt.

 

[Trabaho]

Fuck Chael why is he pink. Pink goof. Is he doing drugs ?

 

[Trabaho]

anyone ever saw a video of Chaels nose running live on camera ? Like he snorted Cocaine ? This video is borerline reality in my mind. Like I know I saw it but it´s nowever it doesn´t exist anymore online. Or was I halucinating ? Chael ya filthy junky, pink faced goof.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Kevin is right. Good man.

Very well said by Kevin Lee. Totally agree.

 

[theincognito]

Chael's entire channel is nothing but fake character takes that he doesn't even believe.

People are bored of it and he barely gets views anymore, yet he still keeps doing it.