Ralphie May is Dead

I'm not surprised, motherfuckers, but RIP. I remember seeing the screenshot of him on the JRE several years back and clearly the guy had some real physical issues.
 
People couldn't even wait for the guy to be put in the ground, before talking shit about him. Yeah he was very overweight, and now he's dead. I get it he made bad choices, but he already paid the ultimate price for them.
 
OMG what - just found out - this guy is hilarious :(
 
EL CORINTHIAN said:
Weight loss is an extremely simple process. Calories in vs calories out, end of story.
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One problem with this mantra is it completely ignores the existence of fat cells.

Eat too much, you create fat cells. Go into a caloric deficit, the cells shrink... But they're still there. It takes almost nothing to expand a fat cell.

The majority of people who shout "calories in calories out" have no earthly idea what they're talking about regarding weight loss. You clearly have more experience than most (and I agree with a lot of what you're saying), but you still distill weight loss into that one sentence, and it's dangerously inaccurate. Weight loss isn't simple if you want to keep it off. Any idiot can lose weight for a short time, which is why so many diets have a guarantee for the first month or two, when you're losing the easiest weight... And before it comes flooding back.

Prevention is the key. Calories in/out is excellent prevention. It is considerably less effective as a treatment after the creation of fat cells.

Losing the fat (and keeping it off) is an almost impossible task for most obese people. What's most important for them is to adopt and maintain a healthy lifestyle. Eat clean. Exercise. Get in the best physical shape you can and take care of your heart.
 
Loiosh said:
The majority of people who shout "calories in calories out" have no earthly idea what they're talking about regarding weight loss.
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But that's literally all weight loss is. Obese people do not transcend the laws of physiology in comparison to anyone else. Actually the people who espouse this are ahead of the curb. The only way you are becoming


obese is by eating a metric fuck ton and being so sedentary you are almost comatose.

Loiosh said:
You clearly have more experience than most, but you still distill weight loss into that one sentence, and it's dangerously inaccurate.
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If we are talking about strictly weight-loss then it's actually the only pertinent information necessary. I get that you are trying to emphasize long term prevention but you are not by passing that one statement because formerly obese people relapse into their old ways. They become obese again because they do the opposite of that one sentence.

Loiosh said:
Weight loss isn't simple if you want to keep it off. A
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Again it actually is extremely simple/not complex. But it's very hard in practice because these people have a set of circumstances that are not conducive to expending calories or a mindset that allows them to keep reducing calories with out relapsing.

Loiosh said:
Prevention is the key. Calories in/out is excellent prevention. It is considerably less effective as a treatment after the creation of fat cells.
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The continuance of not being in a caloric surplus is what will dictate long term weight gain prevention. The goal isn't to make them lose weight until they die, it's to get to a healthy weight and not balloon up to that point of obesity again and once more it comes down to cals in Cal's out

Loiosh said:
What's most important for them is to adopt and maintain a healthy lifestyle. Eat clean. Exercise. Get in the best physical shape you can and take care of your heart.
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I'm not sure you are realizing this but although I do agree with you, all you are really saying is calories in calories out a little bit more elaborately and for them to adopt a healthy lifestyle. You realize that's the impossibility for these people right? Do you have any actual solutions to get them to that point?
 
R.I.P he was a funny bastard. Morbidly Obese people run the same risks with their hearts as heavy drug users. It isn't easy but once you have kids and family, you need professional help to cut those pounds off. Like interventions, medical help, food coach. No different than a professional athlete alcoholic with a handler there at all times.
 
He was pretty goddamn funny now and then. His racial stuff wasn't the cleverest, but he also gave it to every group of people you could put together for any reason. I respect the attempt.
 
EL CORINTHIAN said:
But that's literally all weight loss is. Obese people do not transcend the laws of physiology in comparison to anyone else. Actually the people who espouse this are ahead of the curb. The only way you are becoming


obese is by eating a metric fuck ton and being so sedentary you are almost comatose.


If we are talking about strictly weight-loss then it's actually the only pertinent information necessary. I get that you are trying to emphasize long term prevention but you are not by passing that one statement because formerly obese people relapse into their old ways. They become obese again because they do the opposite of that one sentence.



Again it actually is extremely simple/not complex. But it's very hard in practice because these people have a set of circumstances that are not conducive to expending calories or a mindset that allows them to keep reducing calories with out relapsing.



The continuance of not being in a caloric surplus is what will dictate long term weight gain prevention. The goal isn't to make them lose weight until they die, it's to get to a healthy weight and not balloon up to that point of obesity again and once more it comes down to cals in Cal's out



I'm not sure you are realizing this but although I do agree with you, all you are really saying is calories in calories out a little bit more elaborately and for them to adopt a healthy lifestyle. You realize that's the impossibility for these people right? Do you have any actual solutions to get them to that point?
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I'm not going to go into great detail here because I have literally addressed your points already in this thread.

I'm just going to say this AGAIN:

It isn't just calories in, calories out. Once you build fat cells, they're there for life. They shrink but they're there, and they fill up again quickly. Seriously. This is really important and everyone just ignores it because they think it's voodoo magic. You need a significant caloric deficit to shrink the cells, and a minor bump up to fill them up again. The math is not simple. You have to work really hard to shrink fat, and you gain it back very easily once you've built fat cells. This is why I've repeatedly stressed prevention.

FYI, you don't need to eat a ton or be comatose to end up obese. You need to eat more than you burn. A small difference over time will get you.This is where the calories in/out is important, you have top limit growth of fat cells. You aren't going to melt away the ones you have, but you HAVE to stop growing new ones.

My solution for obese people? Stop worrying about how you look or the fat you have. Worry about getting exercise and being healthy. Worry about eating as clean as possible. Don't worry about not making any progress with how you look because that's just a trap. It's a fight very few people win. If you get there, awesome, but if not, keep exercising and eating clean. Being healthy should be your goal, not being thin. Have realistic expectations. The people I know who have succeeded in getting thin put in a pretty superhuman effort to get there. That probably shouldn't be the gold standard for most people, who don't have three or four hours a day to exercise.
 
Saw him at Brea Improv a few years back. Went well past what a normal show would be and stayed after to meet people. Show was pretty good and seemed like a good guy. Obesity kills though. RIP.
 
There's so much awfulness in this thread it makes me ashamed to post on Sherdog

For real
 
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