Opinion Radical left vs Radical Right poll

[Jose Beehive]

 

[mmafan2000]

I’m an east coast guy as well. Ain’t shit happy around here. That’s probably why heroin has destroyed most of the communities around me. Spent a month with family in a poor suburb near Knoxville, Tennessee as a kid and they weren’t very happy around there either. I think poverty is obviously the biggest contributor.

Damn. I can see why leftist ideology is popular, right wing ideology including trickle down economics and no healthcare isn't working. You know what, maybe the left are correct. They have a point. What, in your opinion is the cause of this heroin problem and how to fix it?

 

[ocfightfan]

If you want to live in a world that combines with nastiest elements of an insane asylum with totalitarianism then the left is your huckleberry.

 

[mmafan2000]

The question is what would these cunts do if there actually was a far left party in the US?

I think there isn't one because Americans aren't far left by nature. That is why Bernie never won, and that is why they put in Biden because he had a chance compared to some of the crazy stuff the other democrat candidates were saying (reparations, letting prisoners vote, giving prisoners free sex changes, etc..).

If the US had a multi party, it would look like Canada. Far left (NDP in Canada) 6% of the votes. Democrats (Liberals with slight majority) Republicans (Conservatives, just behind by a few points). Green party (same everywhere, a one party platform that if they got power would bankrupt the country with the least sustainable economic plan and the heads in clouds) with less than 3% of total votes. Communist party (.0001%). It would all be fragmented. So...to make a long story short, the Democrats in the US don't want a multi party, because that would break them up with the crazy far left and center left and true center. Republicans would easily win majority. In Canada the left do tricks like that too, make coalitions. The conservatives in Canada did that in 1998 and formed a huge conservative party that rivals the liberals ever since.

 

[skold]

You are right, shooting is worse. Now...Jordan Peterson got famous for simply refusing to use those pronouns. Why should someone get famous just form that. Because it's mainstream and being pushed on everyone.

I submit to you that these crazies that shoot people are less than .00000001% of society. The radical left ideology, however, is coming mainstream with gender neutral toilets and aggressive cancel culture. Watch bill mahers latest new rules how democrats are getting very aggressive and hurting their own people. The danger isn't as overt as shooting, but did you see how the media ignored billions in damages from looting and arson? Assaulting people eating their food outdoors, etc. I recently am hearing ethno state solutions from BLM, replacing whites in corporations and neighborhoods with blacks. It goes both ways man. Biased people can only see their side as valid and all other sides as invalid. As a centrist I have always spoken out against the far right and been worried about the crazies that shoot people. Now we have to worry about the radical left too.

Jordan Peterson based his entire gimmick on a lie (or at the very least a willful misrepresentation of a law). The law in question simply extended the already existed protections in regards to housing and employment for minority groups (homosexuals, immigrants etc) to trans people. Jordan Peterson took that, misinterpreted it to mean that "if you use the wrong pronoun you'll be arrested" and then used the outrage he generated to sell books and take patreon donations and become a millionaire. That law in question, by the way passed and guess what, I haven't heard of a single case in Canada where someone got arrested or fined of "mis gendering" anyone.

Now to the BLM protests. First of all, can we stop this nonsense rhetoric that "cities are burning down"? Cities aren't burning. There are a handful cases of arson and vandalism in the cities where BLM protests were happening. No one on the left is condoning the crimes of looting and vandalism, however the right wing seem to have been using the actual civil protests (which I support 100%) and vandalism interchangeably, which is a dishonest tactic to paint anyone who supports BLM cause as being a criminal.

They don't want to consider a far more nuanced thought that a mass scale protest like we've seen is a perfect opportunity for looters or instigators to take advantage of and get away with, as that would weaken their narrative.

They claim that radical left is more dangerous because the left controls the media and education, but they never seem to consider that maybe left leaning ideas are just more appealing to modern day society, which is why they are far more prevalent in media today than outdated conservative ideas? Or that conservative ideas are not based on rigorous research and therefore are less prevalent in academia?


Also, I don't listen to Bill Maher for my political insight.

If you want to boil down to it, implementing radical right wing ideology would be far worse than any leftist principle

 

[Oxycodone]

Damn. I can see why leftist ideology is popular, right wing ideology including trickle down economics and no healthcare isn't working. You know what, maybe the left are correct. They have a point. What, in your opinion is the cause of this heroin problem and how to fix it?

Poverty is #1. Heroin is cheap. Education isn't. Poverty will never be completely eradicated, obviously, but with the amount of revenue the American government rakes in each year, so much more could be divvied to education and social welfare programs. SNAP is a great success. They can do more. The pharmaceutical industry is probably the second biggest contributor. The amount of synthetic reworked versions of heroin that is being prescribed is disgusting. There are a lot of factors in what props up that industry and the effect of further restricting it would greatly impact the American economy, but something has to be done.

 

[loyalyolayal]

Any Far Right group ever beat Stalin/Mao/Kims/Pol Pot death count?

 

[Zergling]

Radical Right, easily.

If you want a rural nation dominated by White Males, social classism, racial incarcerations, and mass shootings

There really is not such things as "radical" left. Rather they are overly progressive for our timeline, but nothing radical about them.

It’s hard to believe you’re a real person and not some goofy spoofer

 

[StoneColdSteveAustin]

The entire American right wing are radical right wingers these days.

Tens of Millions of them believe in pizZagate, they don’t want to wear masks, think the election was stolen, think climate change is a complete hoax, Worship QAnon, believed in Obama Birther nonsense and would follow their cult leader Donald Trump Off any cliff and cancel democracy so he could be their dictator.

 

[Senzo Tanaka]

Man, that's a tough one. Both are authoritarian. I think ultimately the radical right would be worse to live under. That's when you get government fascism. It's all about law, order, censorship, dictators, etc.

Left wing fascism is kind of a new trend and we don't have much history to reference. I see it being more a social/cultural fascism where identity plays a big role and certain subjects are off limits. Both would be miserable and everyone should be calling out extremism and fascism no matter if it comes from the left or the right.

 

[12ga.]

How is reparations radical left? Do you know blacks were excluded from the biggest entitlement programs of all time which almost entirely explains the black white 10x wealth gap? Homestead and southern homestead acts generated tens of trillions for white America and zero for blacks. I know it's hard to swallow if you're a poor white because envy kicks in but it's justice. Do I even get into slavery through Jim Crow crippling them? Most of the stuff you listed I'm not down with though.

 

[Kandyland]

How is reparations radical left? Do you know blacks were excluded from the biggest entitlement programs of all time which almost entirely explains the black white 10x wealth gap? Homestead and southern homestead acts generated tens of trillions for white America and zero for blacks. I know it's hard to swallow if you're a poor white because envy kicks in but it's justice. Do I even get into slavery through Jim Crow crippling them? Most of the stuff you listed I'm not down with though.

Its 2020. Imagine paying black people money for the suffering their ancestors went through. Cringy shit.

 

[Legicato]

The entire American right wing are radical right wingers these days.

Tens of Millions of them believe in pizZagate, they don’t want to wear masks, think the election was stolen, think climate change is a complete hoax, Worship QAnon, believed in Obama Birther nonsense and would follow their cult leader Donald Trump Off any cliff and cancel democracy so he could be their dictator.

And yet they aren't the ones rioting looting destroying burning shit down.

It's the left that's canceling freedom bud. They can't wait to tell you want you can say or think.

 

[12ga.]

Its 2020. Imagine paying black people money for the suffering their ancestors went through. Cringy shit.

There are still people benefiting from suffering they went through and entitlements their ancestors got. I'll tell you what , one generation,100% inheritance tax then we are all even.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

The Left are all globalists. They want to control and tax everyone more and that's why they push the man made climate change hoax. They have no proof that man changes the climate. The climates change all by themselves.

You are way too obvious with your trolling my friend.

 

[Striderxdj]

The radical right and its not even close, they have effectively brainwashed multiple generations into voting against their own interests and convinced their supporters that if the "left" gets what they want, they'll be waiting in bread lines and sent to minority sensitivity re-education camps;

Despite there being 0 far leftists in the entire US government (by an International standard) because the Overton window has been pushed so far to the right in the US that center left social democrats are basically labeled radical communists for wanting UHC, wages to match the productivity growth of the last 40 years and education to not be a ball and chain of crippling debt for young people.

 

[Curmudgeon]

There are still people benefiting from suffering they went through and entitlements their ancestors got. I'll tell you what , one generation,100% inheritance tax then we are all even.

Lol it never ends with people like you.

 

[PrinceOfPain]

To be clear, they're both fucking bad.
But, I voted radical left because, given the rhetoric of each side:
A) It's currently far more obsessed with identity;
B) It is far more accepting of riotous violence;
C) It encourages people to pay for an "education" that will make them and their country weaker - producing more useless "community planners" and unneeded "activists" instead of engineers, computer scientists, mechanics, plumbers, and other worthwhile things. Might as well take out a bank loan for your own lobotomy.
D) It is a greater source of modern self-hate, writing off as evil whatever doesn't live up to its impossible utopian fantasies (everything).
E) It associates guilt with race.
F) It has a far higher potential body count.

 

[PrinceOfPain]

seeing as just about all the mass shootings have been extreme right ......

I don't know hey. I'd imagine that a lot of shootings of 4 or more people are probably gang-related, and happen in predominantly democrat areas like New York, LA, Detroit, etc.
The left-leaning media just doesn't care as much if they can't play up an appropriate political or race-baiting angle, and so they paint the audience an inaccurate picture.
Sort of like their "cops are slaughtering black people in the streets" fantasy.

That's another thing that makes the left dangerous - it's intentional divisiveness. Though, I'm sure the right would be just as propagandist if they could.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

Radical Right, easily.

If you want a rural nation dominated by White Males, social classism, racial incarcerations, and mass shootings

There really is not such things as "radical" left. Rather they are overly progressive for our timeline, but nothing radical about them.

i think this is wrong. there are people on the left, many of them, that go way too far with their ideals to the point of extreme anger and arrogance and judgment. we have our fair share of insanity that i think really needs to be admitted to and called out.

we cancel too many people too vigorously, we are arrogant in our ideals (ideals i share) and we look down on people who have not come to a certain level of love and care for strangers and others in the way that we have.

we get an idea in our heads like equal rights for the LGBTQ community, something i support vigorously, but then in pockets here and there we take this so far that we want to force others to use our language and our thoughts about these people and issues, and if not then there is intense judgment towards them and in some places legal repercussions.

and then conservatives get online and find images of pretty scary looking cross dressers reading to children in libraries and 200 pound men competing in women's rugby smashing 100 pound girl's into the ground. and they see liberals considering the possibility or justice in taking away a parents right to choose if and when their child transitions from one gender to another.

the left is burning down and looting stores whose owners might have voted for bernie....... that seems pretty radical to me.