Opinion Radical left vs Radical Right poll

[mmafan2000]

I understand what he means, compare US to Canada or Scandinavia. Less guns, more political parties, less lobbying, less crazy people, more socialism, etc.

 

[goldennirvana]

I understand what he means, compare US to Canada or Scandinavia. Less guns, more political parties, less lobbying, less crazy people, more socialism, etc.

Plenty of crazy people in Scandinavia. Scandinavians view having any kind of ethnic identity for themselves as 'racist'. As a result, they're handing their countries over to foreigners. That's as crazy as it gets.

 

[skold]

Of course Sherfront would think that people wanting to use nonsense pronouns is equivalent to actual fascists....

 

[mmafan2000]

Of course Sherfront would think that people wanting to use nonsense pronouns is equivalent to actual fascists....

Well, to be fair anytime anyone tells you what you can and can't say sounds pretty fascist to me. Deplatformiong someone because you "miss gender them"? Seriously?!

 

[mmafan2000]

Plenty of crazy people in Scandinavia. Scandinavians view having any kind of ethnic identity for themselves as 'racist'. As a result, they're handing their countries over to foreigners. That's as crazy as it gets.

Lol, how are they "handing it over" to foreigners?

 

[goldennirvana]

Lol, how are they "handing it over" to foreigners?

Mass immigration.

 

[Officer Rick]

seeing as just about all the mass shootings have been extreme right ......

 

[ultramanhyata]

This thread is probably beyond hope. But I have taken a moment to highlight (bolded) the positions on the left that ARE NOT "radical" by any reasonable definition of the word.

Radical left: antifa, BLM, woke justice warriors, toxic cancel culture, de-fund the police, quota based not merit-bases social systems, anti-free speech, sanctuary cities, illegal migrants for future votes, socialism, bigger government, higher taxes for the rich, legalize all drugs and gay marriage, looting and rioting, victim Olympics, fostering anti-white racism, public safe spaces, separation of church and state, decrease military spending, reparations, anti-NRA, anti-white education campaigns, genre neutral bathrooms, atheism, force 8 year old to have sex changes, men are evil, black supremacists, allow people in jail to vote

I personally subscribe (in essence) to all of the bolded and only one of the non-bolded: legalize all drugs.

 

[BIKES!]

Well, to be fair anytime anyone tells you what you can and can't say sounds pretty fascist to me. Deplatformiong someone because you "miss gender them"? Seriously?!

Yeah, it's pretty apparent that the moderate left are actual fascists. Let's not even get into the radical left.


Moderate lefties supported Burning Looting and MUrder in the face of a pandemic. They also are the root of cancel culture and in support of liberal Billionaires surpressing free speech.

 

[MicroBrew]

Seattle , Portland, Minneapolis, Philadelphia, NYC all say hi.

Seattle and Portland are highly desirable locales. Everyone wants to move there, which is why cost of real estate is sky high. Portland consistantly ranks in the top 10 US cities.

 

[giusti825]

I dont have american radical left as an example. I thought this was a philosofical debate. Between the extreme case of each other. They would be both bad as fuck. In american politics, I just dont want to have an opinion. I went to america dozen of times, perhaps hundreads, but ive never lived there.

I didn't realize the original post was from a non-american; my apologies.

In that case, as of right now the radical lefts long term goal is the classless society, where there is no hierarchal separation. This is not yet possible; the technology doesn't yet exist for individuals to easily separate themselves from society and live comfortably off the grid; nor is there any financial incentive to create that technology.

It seems that the radical rights long-term goals are to create a world where we live like serfs. Where the ultra-wealthy are allowed to horde wealth and pass it from generation to generation unencumbered by taxes or regulation. This would have drastic consequences for the freedom of the majority, as if the majority were born into wealth, it wouldn't be considered wealth.

While i find the radical left more morally correct on, equity, freedom and power for the majority, they are pushing a bit too hard at goals that are not yet possible. I find the best that a leftist could do right now is teach others about the long term goals while pushing for social democracy or democratic socialism (one of which is still capitalist) as anything farther left then that will be currently unpalatable to the majority under our current technological restrictions.

As far as the radical right goes, I just never understood how some can not understand that voluntary exchange where the alternative to the exchange is starvation is not truly voluntary exchange; that it is possible for the wealthy to exploit the poor.

TL;DR - Radical right is worse; radical left too gung ho for current times, but can be great for the future.

EDIT: The OP is clearly referring to America; I stand by my previous post.

 

[BonesWinckleJones]

us radical left is racist and dangerous

 

[Overtures]

Yawn

 

[FinalFight]

I'm against radical extremists of all kinds, so I won't be voting. For example, I'm Vegan for the animals and I can't stand extremist Vegans. Nothing good comes from being a radical extremist.

 

[mmafan2000]

This thread is probably beyond hope. But I have taken a moment to highlight (bolded) the positions on the left that ARE NOT "radical" by any reasonable definition of the word.



I personally subscribe (in essence) to all of the bolded and only one of the non-bolded: legalize all drugs.

One or a few elements in the radical sides are not indicative of problems. I mean specifically the package of everything on each side that is pushed on society in a radical way. I, for example am an atheist and also have some conservative values.

 

[mmafan2000]

Yawn

At least vote if you're going to be a useless turd.

 

[Higus]

Both are bad, but the US is politically and culturally much more susceptible to right wing extremism.

 

[Confucamus]

I'm sure it will swing back and forth as the years go on. But right now? We saw months and months of violent leftist protestors causing millions of dollars in damage, assaulting and murdering people, looting stores, etc. all under the protection of the main stream media. There's no question right now.

 

[luckyshot]

This thread was inspired by @luckyshot who wanted to know which was worse for society, Trumpers or woke-left. I kept thinking about it and would like to see your opinion manifested as a poll.

Which do you think is worse for American society as a whole:

Radical left: antifa, BLM, woke justice warriors, toxic cancel culture, de-fund the police, quota based not merit-bases social systems, anti-free speech, sanctuary cities, illegal migrants for future votes, socialism, bigger government, higher taxes for the rich, legalize all drugs and gay marriage, looting and rioting, victim Olympics, fostering anti-white racism, public safe spaces, separation of church and state, decrease military spending, reparations, anti-NRA, anti-white education campaigns, genre neutral bathrooms, atheism, force 8 year old to have sex changes, men are evil, black supremacists, allow people in jail to vote, etc

or

Radical right: ultra-religious, anti-abortion women's choice, rugged capitalism, no universal health care, no taxes for the rich and large corporations, trickle down economics and if you don't get any money it's your problem, boost military and support Israel even if it's bad for the US, no separations of church and state, pro-NRA, anti democracy, no reparations of any kind, all protests should be handled swiftly by the army, wars are good for the economy, lobby groups are a part of free speech, close the border, stop sanctuary cities, DACA is a sham and deport the illegals once and for all, all drugs should remain illegal, white supremacists, smaller government, let AIPAC control congress, Regan was the greatest president since Jesus, etc

Thanks.

The truth is, they are both bad, and so is centrism.

The culture war is there to keep us distracted from the corporate coup that has taken place since the 1980's.

The media is not liberal; it is corporatist.

That being said, the Left at least has some elements that are trying to bring attention to the important issues (need for UHC, climate action, green investment, etc.).The right does not.

 

[Nomad-Echo-X]

the radical left actually hates America.