Question about celebrities who train BJJ

[yetanother]

For real? You've been here since 08 and have to ask that question? BJJ has masses of tremendously insecure man-children.

I don't see the appeal of tapping some random celeb. It's being super proud of beating a famous white belt. A lot of them are even out of shape. A powerful athlete or a ufc fighter or some BJJ world champion sure but a guy who acts in a sitcom?

 

[RJ Green]

For real? You've been here since 08 and have to ask that question? BJJ has masses of tremendously insecure man-children.

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[Midnighter]

Sean Patrick Flannery is a 2nd or 3rd degree black belt and owns his own school. He is far and away the most legit grappler out of all the celebrities.

The guy who plays Agent Coulson is a black belt. Not sure how long he has trained.

 

[Gl0kta]

I don't see the appeal of tapping some random celeb. It's being super proud of beating a famous white belt. A lot of them are even out of shape. A powerful athlete or a ufc fighter or some BJJ world champion sure but a guy who acts in a sitcom?

To be fair most celebs are getting paid to look good, and have enough cash for trainers/nutritionists/doctors plus the spare time for recovery.

While their obviously not going to be pro level they should be decently athletic compared to average.

 

[yetanother]

To be fair most celebs are getting paid to look good, and have enough cash for trainers/nutritionists/doctors plus the spare time for recovery.

While their obviously not going to be pro level they should be decently athletic compared to average.

Compared to an average murican maybe. Male leads in action film are obviously on roids, but plenty of celebs aren't super jacked.

 

[bowened]

A lot of them only take private lessons. Rigan Machado is pretty famous for having “celebrities-only” classes. These guys can’t risk getting hurt or getting a black eye right before or during a gig, so they can’t train like regular people. Plus I imagine they’d have a pretty big target on their back if they trained in the regular classes.

I’ve always hated that excuse. You think the plumber or carpenter can afford to injure his arm? You think the warehouse guy can afford to blow out a knee? You think the doctor, lawyer or sales person wants a black eye? Most “regular people” can’t afford to get injured either. They just to choose to accept the risk.

The whole “celebrities only” thing is just Rigan being smart enough to cash in on rich people who have convinced themselves they’re above the risk.

 

[BCNASH]

I’ve always hated that excuse. You think the plumber or carpenter can afford to injure his arm? You think the warehouse guy can afford to blow out a knee? You think the doctor, lawyer or sales person wants a black eye? Most “regular people” can’t afford to get injured either. They just to choose to accept the risk.

The whole “celebrities only” thing is just Rigan being smart enough to cash in on rich people who have convinced themselves they’re above the risk.

Exactly what I have always thought. I'm on active duty in the Marine Corps and I cant afford to get hurt either, makes me non-deployable until I recover. I always thought the "I cant afford to get hurt" thing is an ego protection measure for those with a very high opinion of themselves. If you are legitimately training consistently and cant afford to get hurt, you know who you need to avoid in the room.

 

[beq45]

From what I’ve gathered, a lot of these celebrities will take private lessons with their instructor. They will drill techniques and roll with their instructor, so they are still getting legit training (imagine rolling with the Machados), but I have to imagine their exposure to styles different from their instructor’s will be quite limited. They can’t risk getting injured by rolling with strangers.

 

[Gabicho]

I’ve always hated that excuse. You think the plumber or carpenter can afford to injure his arm? You think the warehouse guy can afford to blow out a knee? You think the doctor, lawyer or sales person wants a black eye? Most “regular people” can’t afford to get injured either. They just to choose to accept the risk.

The whole “celebrities only” thing is just Rigan being smart enough to cash in on rich people who have convinced themselves they’re above the risk.

You have to look at it from a net income perspective, not a relative one.
If a carpenter injuries his back, maybe he will sit for a month and lose a few hundred or even a couple thousand.
If an actor / producer like Tom Cruise injuries his back or knee for a month and has to sit out of casting, acting or producing, he will lose millions.
Would you risk losing millions?
With a white belt spazz who wants to smash you? Or would you rather pay extra and be more safe?

There's even contracts in many strategic positions of big companies where you are explicitly forbidden from competing (or training) in combat sports or doing other high risk activities like kayaking or skydiving. Injury or death can cost a lot of money.

It's not more "important", it's just more expensive.

 

[D Train]

A musician from a well known band trains at my MMA gym when they are in town. He always does privates and he’s terrible. He does work hard, but he’s legitimately bad.

 

[D Train]

You have to look at it from a net income perspective, not a relative one.
If a carpenter injuries his back, maybe he will sit for a month and lose a few hundred or even a couple thousand.
If an actor / producer like Tom Cruise injuries his back or knee for a month and has to sit out of casting, acting or producing, he will lose millions.
Would you risk losing millions?
With a white belt spazz who wants to smash you? Or would you rather pay extra and be more safe?

There's even contracts in many strategic positions of big companies where you are explicitly forbidden from competing (or training) in combat sports or doing other high risk activities like kayaking or skydiving. Injury or death can cost a lot of money.

It's not more "important", it's just more expensive.

More expensive sure, but only relatively so. If Tom Cruise loses 5 million dollars he’s not even going to notice. If a plumber misses work for a week, his bills are going to start looking pretty scary. However, if old Tom gets hurt it affects a lot of people. Production goes on hold and regular folks can’t work, so I get it.

 

[thewhiterooster]

99% of celebrities take privates only.

 

[yetanother]

More expensive sure, but only relatively so.

Privates are ton cheaper compared to the relative cost of injury.

 

[D Train]

Privates are ton cheaper compared to the relative cost of injury.

Sorry, I was referring to the relative cost of the injuries.

 

[Peteyandjia]

A musician from a well known band trains at my MMA gym when they are in town. He always does privates and he’s terrible. He does work hard, but he’s legitimately bad.

Oh snap, you choked out Bono?

 

[D Train]

Oh snap, you choked out Bono?

Lol it’s a Beautiful Day

 

[Peteyandjia]

Lol it’s a Beautiful Day

Don’t let him slip away!

 

[yetanother]

Sorry, I was referring to the relative cost of the injuries.

I would guess that depends on the celeb, some of them have only short lived fame so if they get injured in their prime they would loose a large part of their money making opportunity window. OTOH I can imagine someone like a member of royalty who is just a do nothing parasite wouldn't loose any revenue.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Lol it’s a Beautiful Day

Was it a Sunday, Bloody Sunday?

 

[Sweep42]

When Anthony "Tony" Bourdain was in Houston filming an episode I trained with him for about 5 hours over several days. He rolled with everyone in the class just like a regular student. After one class he and I rolled hard for about 15 minutes and he insisted we start standing. Threw lots of leg/foot attacks at me despite his being only a blue belt (I'm a brown belt so it was all good). Enjoyed training with him, he was just another guy on the mat (and he was tougher than most 59 year olds and much taller than I realized).