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PWD 590: The Juice Spot

Rick and Morty or Archer?

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sleepwalk said:
It's a catch 22, sort of, isn't it. Flair used to do all the same spots in a match. Scott Hall hypothesized that he did because he was working strangers and jabronis a lot of the time but Ric says he did because he remembers goung to see his favorite wrestler live and the guy didn't do Ric's favorite spot.

Meanwhile, WWE has become the land of five-and-a-half moves. Guys should beat sone opponents with the Blue Thunder Bomb or Acid Reigns or 1916 sometimes. It maintains drama in every match with every guy because you don't have to tune out because the finisher wasn't hit. They shouldn't necessarily be tiered, however. Like if Samoa Joe has to bust out the Muscle Buster or KO the pop-up powerbomb to beat Seth, I'd imagine that it would seem off for them to beat Braun or another giant with the "lesser" move when the "real finisher" isn't feasible. It's why we get simplistic or shit finishers like spears and big boots sometimes (but I'd still much rather see a phenomenal forearm or springboard 450° splash or calf crusher than the Styles Clash.)
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I would like to see more big spots finish matches. Seems pretty rare that someone gets powerslammed through a table or smashed with a chair and it actually finishes a match (in which said implements are legal), unless they are a finisher into those objects.

On this subject, that was one thing I really liked about Neville during his Cruiserweight title reign. He finished most people off with the Rings of Saturn and he saved the Red Arrow for big defenses. In fact, being finished by the Red Arrow became a badge of honor for the vanquished, like "wow, the champ is being forced to use his most devastating weapon to defeat [insert name of dude about to be squished]." Was pretty cool.
 
Smigg said:
Remember those two guys I told you about, who argued over the "Liv Morgan T-Shirt", they're still going on at it.

The guy with the shirt was talking about some woman he saw, and the other guy said "Why don't you put on your Riott Squad T-Shirt and say that it's her shirt, it worked so well last time".

And then they went right back to arguing about him being a creep because he bought a shirt because he had a crush on a wrestler.
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Get better friends.
 
Smigg said:
PN News was a guy from early 90s WCW, this is what he looked like:

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The fact that a woman looked like this, and that my mind went for such a deep cut with "PN News", before every other pro wrestling fat guy, was irrationally hilarious to me.
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<TheWire1>

I wonder what the PN stood for...actually, scratch that, I already stopped caring.
 
Watched the beginning of Raw with LTR this morning. Did Kurt ever say his big announcement, or did Steph interrupt? Or was Steph the big announcement? God, I hope not.

Roman comes out. Initial yawn. But then he says he's going to go to the back and beat up all of Steph's guys. Yes, that's the Roman we need, want, and deserve. But then, of course, he doesn't do it because fuck this show.

KO is out. OK, great. He says he likes Roman - that is a fantastic way to get heel heat. I wonder where this is going ... Oh right, Steph is there so she has to emasculate KO for touching her shoulder even though they're both heels and she's supposed to like and respect him (going over Kurt's head to sign him and Samuel Zayn). So now, because Steph can't not shit on everyone at all times, she books Roman vs KO. Why the fuck would she do that? This is hot lava ass fire garbage.

Had to turn off during the tag match to take LTR to dentist. I don't imagine the show got better.
 
SocraticMethod said:
Watched the beginning of Raw with LTR this morning. Did Kurt ever say his big announcement, or did Steph interrupt? Or was Steph the big announcement? God, I hope not.

Roman comes out. Initial yawn. But then he says he's going to go to the back and beat up all of Steph's guys. Yes, that's the Roman we need, want, and deserve. But then, of course, he doesn't do it because fuck this show.

KO is out. OK, great. He says he likes Roman - that is a fantastic way to get heel heat. I wonder where this is going ... Oh right, Steph is there so she has to emasculate KO for touching her shoulder even though they're both heels and she's supposed to like and respect him (going over Kurt's head to sign him and Samuel Zayn). So now, because Steph can't not shit on everyone at all times, she books Roman vs KO. Why the fuck would she do that? This is hot lava ass fire garbage.

Had to turn off during the tag match to take LTR to dentist. I don't imagine the show got better.
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Braun’s face turn started when he was a big nasty heel and told Roman that he didn’t like him. That was all she wrote
 
Smigg said:
PN News was a guy from early 90s WCW, this is what he looked like:

tumblr_p46khq8HWK1rg89a6o1_1280.jpg


The fact that a woman looked like this, and that my mind went for such a deep cut with "PN News", before every other pro wrestling fat guy, was irrationally hilarious to me.
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I got that reference.
 
Frank23 said:


Eazy E goes off on this one.

Or not
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Didn't do anything for me but I've always found the BATB work/shoot to be really overblown and a boring story. I liked the power move of Eazy asking Russo to meet him at the hanger when he landed his private plane for their first time meeting<Lmaoo>. Cheap pop for the fact that I drive by that airport all the time.
 
Smigg said:
PN News was a guy from early 90s WCW, this is what he looked like:

tumblr_p46khq8HWK1rg89a6o1_1280.jpg


The fact that a woman looked like this, and that my mind went for such a deep cut with "PN News", before every other pro wrestling fat guy, was irrationally hilarious to me.
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<{danawhoah}>
 
SocraticMethod said:
Watched the beginning of Raw with LTR this morning. Did Kurt ever say his big announcement, or did Steph interrupt? Or was Steph the big announcement? God, I hope not.

Roman comes out. Initial yawn. But then he says he's going to go to the back and beat up all of Steph's guys. Yes, that's the Roman we need, want, and deserve. But then, of course, he doesn't do it because fuck this show.

KO is out. OK, great. He says he likes Roman - that is a fantastic way to get heel heat. I wonder where this is going ... Oh right, Steph is there so she has to emasculate KO for touching her shoulder even though they're both heels and she's supposed to like and respect him (going over Kurt's head to sign him and Samuel Zayn). So now, because Steph can't not shit on everyone at all times, she books Roman vs KO. Why the fuck would she do that? This is hot lava ass fire garbage.

Had to turn off during the tag match to take LTR to dentist. I don't imagine the show got better.
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The big announcement was the totality if the home theme
 
https://www.cagesideseats.com/2018/...mainder-ufc-deal-clears-way-for-smackdown-fox

SmackDown is worth more to Fox than that fake human cockfighting.

ESPN reportedly picks up remainder of UFC deal, clearing the way for SmackDown on Fox

Story/rumor in spoiler:

In a report early this morning from Variety, ESPN will apparently add to their already announced package of UFC events, picking up the rest of the broadcast package for the mixed martial arts promotion. A few weeks ago, the partners announced 15 annual shows would stream on the Disney-owned broadcaster’s ESPN+ subscription-based streaming service. Now it appears they’ll add another 15 fight cards per year, with the total schedule of events airing on both ESPN+ and ESPN’s traditional cable networks.

This is basically the entire rights package currently held by Fox. Variety says ESPN will pay $300 million annually for UFC’s televised line-up; over the five year life of the contract it will be worth $1.5 billion.

None of this has been confirmed by UFC, ESPN or Fox, but if Variety’s sources are correct, this gives us a better picture of things for WWE and the combat sports landscape:

  • The obvious speculation is Fox decided to end its seven year relationship with UFC amid declining ratings for its fight cards, deciding instead to invest in WWE by spending $205 million per year on SmackDown instead of matching ESPN’s $150 million offer to keep the linear television portion of UFC’s slate.
  • While a $1.5 billion dollar deal is a big step up from the value of UFC’s last contract, it’s significantly less than what the company’s owners, Endeavor, were shooting for when they bought from Zuffa. It was reported UFC believed their rights package was worth $400 - $450 million a year (their Fox deal was worth $115 million annually).
  • Something pretty much nobody predicted looks to have happened... with SmackDown’s deal alone alleged to be worth more than $200 million per year, and NBCUniversal said to be tripling what they were paying to keep Raw, it looks like WWE’s television contracts will be significantly more lucrative than UFC’s.
Interesting times in the real and scripted fight games.
 
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