PWD 254: Sprechen Ze Jive > Pop

[My Spot]

Should Fred Durst be in the WWE hof?

 

[HereticBD]

No, but the DX band should for their stunning rendition of "America The Beautiful".

 

[LuchaBear]

They should put Swagger in a mask, have him join LD and call him "Giant Dragon." License to print money.

 

[LuchaBear]

Dislike button!

 

[Death]

No, but the DX band should for their stunning rendition of "America The Beautiful".

Makes me cry.

 

[deezy]

Flair has Mongo on his podcast, I could only hope it's as wacky as Nick Diaz was on Sonnens.

 

[The Diplomat]

Well he's been back on FB for awhile now.

I guess he's more afraid of his PWD and sherdog comrads than his actual relatives.

 

[Dusty Rhodes]

lol The DX band got fucking booed.

Gotta love the Attitude Era crowd, especially in Boston.

 

[Smigg]

Not much of a hero though. He's just the whipping boy who finally has enough. Let's not start comparing him to Darth Vader in ROTJ, or anything. Dude was fine with dominating until he got bitch slapped. Only then did he try to save some face. Kind of cowardly actually.

When you look at the whole overarching story:

- Great amateur boxer, but was refused a license to compete professionally because he was born in the USSR
- He's finally given permission, and his first fight is against the former, dominant World Heavyweight Champion, exhibition or not, that's not a fight he should be taking for his first Pro fight.
- Drago comes over to the US in good faith, and because his wife talked shit, he gets pulled into it because they start insulting him, not his wife, or his manager, who's also talking shit. Not only does his opponent talk shit, but then the current World Heavyweight Champion insults him too.
- When you get to the fight, he's treated as a joke. He's made to wait under the floor, whilst his opponent fucks around dancing with James Brown, and mocking him when he gets into the ring, including having the ring announcer announce 5 different nicknames for it, whilst he's still dancing around with a top hat on.
- The fight happens, Apollo is fucking around, disrespecting him further.
- Drago then starts whooping his ass, and his corner are fucking around, instead of throwing in the towel, hell, Apollo specifically said "Don't throw in the towel".
- Apollo dies because of injuries sustained in the fight, which is something that happens in boxing around 5 times a year, Drago can't be held accountable, he was trying to win the fight.
- After the fight, he's crowded around by a bunch of English speaking journalists (a language he barely speaks), after he's just fought the former world champion and think's he's killed somebody and he says something inflammatory, mainly because he's not aware of the language, and the guy think's he's just killed someone.
- The current champion then says "Hey yo, fuck this shit man, I'mma whoop his motherfucking ass", so Drago is having to fight the current, two-time, Undisputed World Heavyweight Champion, in only his SECOND professional fight... but it's not for the title. Despite destroying a former world champion.
- Then, the Champion leaves his house, more importantly, leaving his only child in the house, on his own, with only a nanny, and a fucking robot... oh yeah, and he's left him at Christmas. Because of some fucking revenge mission like it's some sort of fucking action movie, it's Boxing, Rocky, you're not out for vengeance.
- So they set up their training camps, Drago's taking this shit seriously, he might not be fighting for the title, but he's fighting the champion, so he has the most hi tech training, and the most intense training ever seen in boxing. Hell, the Politbureau are sneaking steroids into him when he's not even looking. What's the champion doing? Well, he's not got any sparring partners, he's not brought a cut man... I don't think he even brought any boxing equipment with him. He's just running about in the snow. Taking some time out to grow a beard, climb a couple of mountains, hell, even his wife, who should be at home with the fucking kid over Christmas says "Nah, fuck this kid, he'll be alright on his own" took it as an opportunity to have a couple's retreat.
- The fight happens, in Drago's home country, he's given a hero's welcome, he's fighting the champion in only his second professional fight, he's in the same position that Rocky is in in 1976, hometown boy done good, fighting the champion. And he puts in a magnificent performance, knocks down the champion at least 15 times in the fight, any other fight, he'd have won via TKO, just by knockdowns alone, but because he's the champion, Rocky gets some leeway. But, halfway through the fight, the glory supporting fickle fuck fans start cheering for the champion. Even though he's not from there.
- Next thing you know, his manager's giving him shit, the government are giving him shit, including one guy who points at him in a really sinister fashion, like he was gonna do some KGB shit to him. So Drago says "Fuck you guys, I'm doing my fucking best here, and you're on my ass, go fuck yourselves!"
- Drago ends up losing, despite his Herculean effort, and the champion is celebrating like he's beaten Muhammad Ali in his prime and not a guy in his SECOND pro fight.
- The champion, who is currently neglecting his child on Christmas day to go on some ego driven revenge mission, then starts pontificating like he's some fucking saint, and everyone else is stupid and says "Hey, stop fighting... I know I'm fighting, but that's beside the point, you shouldn't", and everyone acts like he's said some profound words, instead of "Hey, Asshole! Why aren't you with your kid over Christmas? Instead of coming over here like some crazy cowboy punching dudes in the face!"
- Then it bleeds over into Rocky V, when Rocky ducks the competition thinking "Oh shit, I just got my ass kicked by a guy with only two Pro Fights, I'm gonna get killed... I'm retiring". So, the title is vacated, do they think "Well, if Drago did this after two fights, maybe he should get a shot?" then all of a sudden, it's "Weeelllll... he has only had 2 fights, so he can go fuck himself now, let Union Cane fight one of George Washington Duke's bums and let him have it"

And we never heard from Drago again.

 

[Stargazer Rex]

 

[The Diplomat]

WTF Smigg

 

[Smigg]

 

[Nuclearlandmine]

Y'all keep arguing about Reigns and WWE's shitty booking. I'm just gonna be here catching up on NJPW's G1 Climax.

Now that i think about it, aside from the wrestling style, NJPW is pretty well-stacked in term of talents. We have the top dogs with AJ Styles, Shinsuke Nakamura, Hiroshi Tanahashi and Kazuchika Okada. Next we have upper mid card folks in Togi Makabe, Tetsuya Naito, Tomohiro Ishii, Kota Ibushi, and then the mid card and lower card followed suit. Almost all of them are homegrown talents ranging from Kevin Nash-style big guy to vanilla midgets. These guys often feud with one another or vs someone in the upper level. Same deal with the Tag and the Jr Tag division. The only exception to this pyramid of talents is the Jr Heavyweight division with only Kenny Omega on top, but he's an awesome over the top Bullet Club heel so he could carry the whole division by himself. Comparatively speaking to WWE however, i failed to see this. The talents are nowhere near as full as NJPW, and there's often this single minded tunnel vision thing about making the one-true-star in order to carry the company for the next decades or so, often in expense of other talents (ala The Wyatt Family). Is it a case of too many cooks spoil the foods? NJPW as i recalled only have Gedo and Jedo to book and their shows are stacked, whereas WWE had this legion of writers that can't write anything sustainable for 5 minutes without changing the script. Lastly, i rarely see any blood from a NJPW show, but their storylines and wrestling are top notch. On the other hand WWE seemed to be gimped creatively by the whole PG label, but ironically at the same time raking in sponsorship money for their facade of their shows being "hot" when the ratings were anything BUT.

Of course, NJPW might be just a "shitty overseas indy fed", but they still got a sizable worldwide fanbase and routinely sold out arena/stadium in their native country. So it raise a question of what the hell is WWE doing with their products. NXT got their shit right and you could see the comparison between them and NJPW. Roman Reigns might be hot the last week, but realistically speaking how many of you actually think that WWE's legion of writers can sustain his heat to Royal Rumble? They had the bright idea of capitalizing on it, but it is an the expense of his longevity. After this is done and Reigns back to being a neckbeard whippin boy then really, they might as well pack the Reigns experience into their lockers, along with their Lex Luger Express and other nonsense.

 

[TheStruggle]

Dave Metlzer

"One thing that should be noted with Roman Reigns as management's choice to be the top guy, particularly when others can very rightfully believe they are better and haven't had the same opportunities is you'd think that would breed a lot of jealousy. But that really isn't the case. Most guys like him and were very happy for him winning the title. That really speaks to him being a nice guy to everyone."

 

[HereticBD]

Dave Metlzer

"One thing that should be noted with Roman Reigns as management's choice to be the top guy, particularly when others can very rightfully believe they are better and haven't had the same opportunities is you'd think that would breed a lot of jealousy. But that really isn't the case. Most guys like him and were very happy for him winning the title. That really speaks to him being a nice guy to everyone."

Awww, that's sweet.

 

[Nuclearlandmine]

Since when being a nice guy backstage equals to heat in the ring?
Or maybe people just silently laugh with each other as Reigns botched another promos in the ring again.

 

[HereticBD]

Since when being a nice guy backstage equals to heat in the ring?
Or maybe people just silently laugh with each other as Reigns botched another promos in the ring again.

It would be hard for anyone on the roster to laugh at Reigns' promo skills. Not like anyone else is out there delivering gold.

 

[Nuclearlandmine]

It would be hard for anyone on the roster to laugh at Reigns' promo skills. Not like anyone else is out there delivering gold.

I personally think that's because no one have the chance to do any promo outside of the whole pre-written bullshit.

 

[HereticBD]

I personally think that's because no one have the chance to do any promo outside of the whole pre-written bullshit.

That's precisely the problem. They're not actors, but are being asked to be actors and deliver a scripted performance, instead of just shooting from the hip.

You'd get the same result in a movie with terrible actors.

 

[BotchMan]

#SaveUsCena
I want the Roman vs Cena match at WM 32 that ten years later will have Cena be the old guard cheered for against the shitty new guard Roman. We've finally come full circle.