Put a stop to weight cutting

[pridedorim]

So you suggest that they make the weigh in right before they step inside the cage?

Are you a dumbass??

 

[Affenschädel]

Thirteen: all I get from you is "it's been done a long time, so it's all good". Well, they had slavery for a couple of hundred years, and they also did bloodletting to cure diseases. Those turned out to be legit practices, didn't they?

As for a "natural" weight and weightclasses, I already answered that. If a fighter is at 195 lbs right now, then it's no problem for him to be at either 185 or 205 lbs within a couple of weeks, at the most months, and feel perfectly comfortable at that. I can't believe we even have to discuss that - people gain or lose 10 lbs all the time.


Sherm: I had an idea along those lines. Tbh fighters being susceptible to a check during the week before the fight, where they would not be allowed to be let's say more than 5 lbs over their weightclass, would be sufficient. That would be very easy to implement, and would be more than enough to ensure they make weight, and not try to cut weight.

 

[Gougz]

The IV ban has done it's duty, Conor is likely done at FW and Bendo has to fight at WW now. That's more than fair enough without having to police weight cutting this much. As long as they can make weight with the new restrictions, it's fine. Do not understand how this has BEEN going on in sports like Boxing and wrestling? It's a necessary evil, so to speak...

What's the point if a 195lb fighter is still gonna have to cut weight to MW? Then on top of that, KEEP the weight off another night. If he goes to LHW at 195lbs, then that fighter is gonna face the same disadvantages you feel are so unfair in the first place. So what's the point of playing weight nazi then?

You have to have weight divisions.
You have to have weight cuts for them.
And you have to let them regain their natural weight back (or most of it) to perform.

Fighters are gonna have to fight other fighters a few pounds heavier or lighter. But the ridiculous weight cuts are already ending with the bans in place, that's all people ever asked for and that's all we need. I only posted the boxing Tale of the Tape pics to show how practical it's always been for fighters to cut and regain anywhere from 5 to almost 20 lbs. It's a part of the game due to needing weight classes.

And this is precisely why something should be done, you said it yourself, at the end of the day when they'll step in the octogon there well be a weight difference between them, so what's the point of all this torture when no one is gaining from it ? Wouldn't it be better if they just came at their "natural" weight, fully hydrated and without killing themselves during the week of the week ?

 

[rbastid]

There is no downside,.

Yeah there's no downside to the fact guys will still cut weight and just come into fights without the chance to rehydrate, i'm sure that'll do wonders for the brain.

What makes you think guys won't cut weight? Maybe big names and good fighters won't, but guys who are desperate, young or one a losing streak will look for that little advantage and that's when things will go horribly wrong.

The ban in IV hydration is a start, but a day in weigh in, or minute before weigh in, is a giant step back that would ultimately lead to the sport being shut down due to the unintended consequences of people (mostly with little knowledge of how any of this works) who knew better than everyone else and had to have their ideas made into law.

 

[rbastid]

No extreme (more than 10 pounds for lighter weights and 20 for heavier weights) weight cutting would change the entire landscape of MMA. I'm for it.

I think this is a much better way of doing things. I know high school wrestling uses a system where they test a wrestler's body weight and fluid amounts at the start of the year, they then assigned weight classes which they can't go under.

Have the commission do something similar. Granted guys have the chance to get bigger stronger though out the year, so maybe do a test in Jan and again in July of all fighters, they will then be allowed to enter a weight class below them only if they're body weight is is a small percentage higher than the class limit, maybe 5% or so. (as a pound amount is a big difference when FLW are 125 and HW are 265)

 

[meast]

It is fine now imo

 

[loisestrad]

I choose to not give a fuck about weight cutting. It feels great!

 

[RicksonsGrip]

This has to be a troll job

 

[TH1RTE3N]

And this is precisely why something should be done, you said it yourself, at the end of the day when they'll step in the octogon there well be a weight difference between them, so what's the point of all this torture when no one is gaining from it ? Wouldn't it be better if they just came at their "natural" weight, fully hydrated and without killing themselves during the week of the week ?

Weight cutting isn't the crime you guys seem to think it is. The problem is with the EXCESSIVE weight cuts, not weight cutting in general. MMA is trying to keep weight cutting safe & logical, not remove it all together. Most people seem to understand weight cutting is a part of every sport that involves weight classes and for good reason.

It's not about making sure they maintain the exact weight on fight night, it's never been about that. That's part of the reason why I was showing those Boxing Tale of the Tape snapshots. It's not this deep, dark, twisted underground scene or secret like you guys seem to think it is, it's natural and it's commonly accepted by fans and fighters alike. We just need the over-the-top weight cuts done with. But you can't police weight this much, the weight divisions were NEVER intended to be taken so literal. You make the weight and regain it back over night. It's not about regulating the fighters to stay at that exact weight come fight night.

Again, you are still going to have weight disadvantages affecting fights if you just leave a 195lb, or 160lb guy fight in the weight class above him, so what's your point if that's what you find unfair in the first place? THINK about it, there's a reason why it's been happening for ages well before MMA adapted to having weight classes. They only need to stop the ridiculously huge weight cuts, which they are doing.