Put a stop to weight cutting

[Affenschädel]

Weighing in a fighter needs no special preparation, so we can include it in the pre-fight checkup (when the officials check fighters' nails, apply vaseline to the eyebrows, etc before the fighter enters the octagon).

If Dana doesn't like losing the promotional aspect of the weigh-in, let them do the weigh-ins 24h before the fight, as usual, and then do a quick re-check before they enter the Octagon.

It would end fighters having an unfair advantage over other fighters that are either unable or unwilling to cut weight drastically. There is no downside, and there is no rational argument against it. Just do it, and in 6-12 months everybody will ask themselves how we ever allowed that stupid, unsportsmanlike, health-damaging practice called weight cutting in the first place.

 

[Gunny]

 

[BigDaddyBach]

I'm down. Another reason why I'm fine with Conor never fighting at 145 again either; there are weight cuts and then there are life threatening situations. This is why I also thought the Conor loss at WW would only be bad for fighters; would only motive them to keep cutting massive amounts of weight.

 

[MuddyFugger]

You want them to fight dehydrated?

Idiot

 

[Bend NvR Break]

No extreme (more than 10 pounds for lighter weights and 20 for heavier weights) weight cutting would change the entire landscape of MMA. I'm for it.

 

[TH1RTE3N]

The restrictions set up now are fair enough. Fighters are having to shuffle into more proper weight classes now and I'm fine with that. People are either going to need to still cut weight with they're 197lbs to get to 185 and etc. The way it's set up now, if you fight at LHW you can weigh anywhere from 186 - 205. So even leaving it as is but forcing no weight cuts would still lead to "unfair" advantages either way.

If they can cut the weight without killing themselves, so be it. It's been going on for ages in combat sports (Wrestling, Boxing, etc). I don't know why people here always have to cry about it like it's only a UFC or MMA things. The only thing that's actually fair is more weight classes or just going open weight. And we don't need a whole bunch of new weight classes and going open weight isn't going to do the sport any favors. But weight cutting will always be a factor is some way, beyond most HWs. But your idea is simply just another not so well thought out idea on restricting weight cutting. You can't have the fighters fighting dehydrated, people are going to have to cut weight and regain that weight back in some fashion come fight night. It happens in boxing all the time.


Welcome to combat sports fellas, embrace it...at least to some extent.

 

[Which Doctor]

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[Sporeborn]

So, what happens if a guy goes through all the bullshit leading up to a fight, walks down to the octagon, gets lubed up and patted down, then ends up being over weight?

 

[Affenschädel]

One point that has been brought up is that fighters would dehydrate themselves. That's nonsensical. Noone would dehydrate himself before a fight, if the point is not to rehydrate as much as possible for the fight.

 

[TGArthur]

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What sad part are you emphasizing: TS's search skills are or how you are using T-Mobile?

 

[Hulk Brogan]

that is right ts, all fighters are beautiful no matter what their size is...they shouldn't be cutting so much weight to look thinner! its dangerous

 

[Affenschädel]

So, what happens if a guy goes through all the bullshit leading up to a fight, walks down to the octagon, gets lubed up and patted down, then ends up being over weight?

Same as when he weights too much the way it is now, a day before the fight - it's impossible to find a replacement on such short notice, so either his opponents accepts fighting him overweight, and he gets a penalty, or the fight is off. And if the fight has to be cancelled because someone can't make weight, chances are he will never fight in that promotion again - so it barely ever happens.

 

[Humbaba the Terrible]

I want the absolute minimum body fat percentage in every fight, so I am pro weight cutting.

 

[Gunny]

What sad part are you emphasizing: TS's search skills are or how you are using T-Mobile?

About eight years ago I ditched T-Mobile vowing never to return. Unfortunately legitimate unlimited data, free roaming throughout US, Canada and Mexico and the all around shittiness of AT&T have made me eat my words.

 

[TH1RTE3N]

One point that has been brought up is that fighters would dehydrate themselves. That's nonsensical. Noone would dehydrate himself before a fight, if the point is not to rehydrate as much as possible for the fight.

There's not many other ways to MAINTAIN the weight cut at the proper time. If you are naturally 198lbs you should be allowed to fight at 185 still.

So what do you want? Do you want the 198lbs fighter to have a weight disadvantage at 205 (LHW) or cut the weight to 185 (MW) and then have to maintain that weight into fight night as well? They can't walk around at exactly the weight they fight in 24\7 and you can't build weight classes around every weight possible either. So think about this outside of just being a fan and actually think about how crazy it would be as an actual fighter to try and abide by this.

Again, it's simply just the way things have to be in combat sports. You need to realize this is how it has to be to keep the fighter safe as well as uphold a legit fighting business.

Fighters are gonna cut to make weight and then rehydrate for fight night, period.

 

[TGArthur]

About eight years ago I ditched T-Mobile vowing never to return. Unfortunately legitimate unlimited data, free roaming throughout US, Canada and Mexico and the all around shittiness of AT&T have made me eat my words.

Hahaha I should do the same. AT&T is HORRIBLE out here.

 

[Affenschädel]

Thirteen, you're not really making a point here. It is easy for someone to move up or down 5 or 10 lbs over a couple of months, by changing their diet and/or strength training. Weight cutting or no weight cutting, fighters will choose the weightclass they are most comfortable with.

 

[TH1RTE3N]

Thirteen, you're not really making a point here. It is easy for someone to move up or down 5 or 10 lbs over a couple of months, by changing their diet and/or strength training. Weight cutting or no weight cutting, fighters will choose the weightclass they are most comfortable with.

The IV ban has done it's duty, Conor is likely done at FW and Bendo has to fight at WW now. That's more than fair enough without having to police weight cutting this much. As long as they can make weight with the new restrictions, it's fine. Do not understand how this has BEEN going on in sports like Boxing and wrestling? It's a necessary evil, so to speak...

What's the point if a 195lb fighter is still gonna have to cut weight to MW? Then on top of that, KEEP the weight off another night. If he goes to LHW at 195lbs, then that fighter is gonna face the same disadvantages you feel are so unfair in the first place. So what's the point of playing weight nazi then?

You have to have weight divisions.
You have to have weight cuts for them.
And you have to let them regain their natural weight back (or most of it) to perform.

Fighters are gonna have to fight other fighters a few pounds heavier or lighter. But the ridiculous weight cuts are already ending with the bans in place, that's all people ever asked for and that's all we need. I only posted the boxing Tale of the Tape pics to show how practical it's always been for fighters to cut and regain anywhere from 5 to almost 20 lbs. It's a part of the game due to needing weight classes.

 

[TheBulletwithWings]

You want them to fight dehydrated?

Idiot

There is no dehydration if there is no initial weight cut. Did you read the post?

 

[Sherm]

Now that they have the potential for surprise drug testing throughout fight camps, they could just add on a weight check, and say that a fighter can be no more than, say, 8% over his weight class within 6 weeks of his fight. This would virtually stamp out Tibau-esque weight cuts, but would also make reasonable guys more comfortable coming in just above the weight limit on fight night, knowing that they probably wouldn't be giving up more than a few pounds.

I'm sure there would be guys crossing their fingers and just hoping they don't get a drug test/weight check prior to fight week, but that would mostly be idiots.