So, for the past three years at Iowa State I've always used the head pull in my triangle chokes. For some reason, certain people have tried telling me I can't do this. I talked it over with my boss, who's a referee (and a good one, too, none of this fucking calling wazari for kokas shit, he's awesome) and he said that since it's a supported choke, it shouldn't be illegal. There's nothing in the rules expressly prohibiting it, either. Now, I know that you really don't even need to bother with the head if you've got your hips shifted in the right position. What's even more interesting is that lately, I've been rolling with some of the bigger (read: thicker) guys in my club, and even though I'm 6'4" I still can't quite get a good lock with my legs. What I've resorted to doing is reaching up and squeezing my knees together and pulling them to my chest. Oddly enough, the reviews are in, and people tend to think that that works even BETTER than just the head pull. Where pulling on the head created more downward pressure on the neck, closing off the windpipe, apparently squeeze-and-pull does a really good job of all-around constriction. I've been using this method for the last few weeks and find that I'm getting people tapping instantaneously, which is neat. Anyway, does anyone know if it's illegal to grab the head? It's still a good go-to if I can't quite get to my knees, but like I said, I don't know why it would be illegal? I mean, if it were illegal to push on the head, then you wouldn't/shouldn't be able to do sleeper chokes either. Then again, I've had people try and tell me flying armbars are illegal in Judo. Come to think of it...they're the same people who tell me I can't pull the head down. I think they're just whiny.