Cycling Pro Discussion 4: Transfers Everywhere, Vuelta & Beyond

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Matthew Brennan continuing his insane first year at the World Tour level.
 
Tanta Valentia Del Toro!

kid is for real. can Carapaz challenge?

Fortunato and Pederson secure jerseys.

beautiful roads, lovely race.
 
Start earlier than usual today, in a hour. WAR EL JAGUAR DE TULCAN!!

Probably hardest World Tour climb this season.

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Videer said:
Start earlier than usual today, in a hour. WAR EL JAGUAR DE TULCAN!!

Probably hardest World Tour climb this season.

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Is the descent of the Finestre paved or gravel?

I'm looking at that profile and only thinking two things are on my mind. If you are on a great day, you just have to blast a 2min effort 1.5k into that climb. Not like it's the last 2k of the stage, but enough of a pace to make the leader think "if I don't follow this it could be over". Secondly, (unless you're Del Toro) you need to test the 'other guy' at least 2 times before you get to that last 5k of the climb.

Prior to Pogacar era I never understood why everyone put their guys on the front to grind out a fast pace and then wait for the last 3k to start attacking the leader. You need a good sense of where the other guy is at the start of the climb and then at 2 or 3 other points on the climb before you start launching your attacks. Maybe I don't understand something about modern cycling but putting 4 of your top guys on the front to set a hard pace doesn't make sense if the leader just follows that pace and is behind you. The leader could be on a good day and all you did was lose all 5 of your guys to pace him.
 
Lets watch how Simon Yates defends his podium spot against the robber baron Derek Gee instead of riding for a win

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Is the descent of the Finestre paved or gravel?

I'm looking at that profile and only thinking two things are on my mind. If you are on a great day, you just have to blast a 2min effort 1.5k into that climb. Not like it's the last 2k of the stage, but enough of a pace to make the leader think "if I don't follow this it could be over". Secondly, (unless you're Del Toro) you need to test the 'other guy' at least 2 times before you get to that last 5k of the climb.

Prior to Pogacar era I never understood why everyone put their guys on the front to grind out a fast pace and then wait for the last 3k to start attacking the leader. You need a good sense of where the other guy is at the start of the climb and then at 2 or 3 other points on the climb before you start launching your attacks. Maybe I don't understand something about modern cycling but putting 4 of your top guys on the front to set a hard pace doesn't make sense if the leader just follows that pace and is behind you. The leader could be on a good day and all you did was lose all 5 of your guys to pace him.
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I think that pavement start right at the top.
 
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Lets watch how Simon Yates defends his podium spot against the robber baron Derek Gee instead of riding for a win
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Gee is like Obi Won Kenobi, you can strike him down but he just grows stronger.

If not for losing the 2+ mins on the first road stage he'd be in second right now.
 
this is pretty much what Carapaz needs. It may not work but you need to thin the herd early, see what UAE riders are left, and put doubt into del Toro's head.

You know with 10k to go it's going to be down to the leaders and the rest will be cooked. If del Toro has 2 UAEs with him with 10k to go it's not likely going to work out for Carapaz.
 
True macho ciclismo! War el Jaguar de Tulcan!
 
Gee should not be on the front. Nothing better for him than Yates to sit off the front and wonder where the guys behind are.
 
Looking real good for Yates if he can keep up the pace until he meets with Wout!
 
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