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Prime Bas Rutten vs Prime Alistair Overeem

I might have to go with Bas on this one. Overeem has a small height advantage, couldn't find Bas's reach but I don't think it would be too great a difference. Overeem never really seemed to be that fast either, I remember Bas being surprisingly quick.
Not the best example due to low level opponent, but Rutten vs Villareal really showed off Rutten's speed and vicious striking. After a 7 year layoff it was insane. Also, his submissions in Pancrase were awesome, and the fights were longer. Overeem never went past 10 minutes. I can see Rutten slowly chipping away at Overeem then flooring him in the 3rd.
 
Prime overeem was a roided up beast who didn't lose so I'd take him
 
There is a myth about Bas that is bigger than the actual legend. He was very good for his time but his current persona causes people to inflate his skills.

I don't see how he survives one round with Ubereem.
 
Yeah size is why Bobb Sapp had such a stellar career

We really comparing Overeem to Bob fucking Sapp?

Overeem is much bigger, stronger and just as talented, if not more.
 
Hard to say, but most likely Overeem
 
Ubereem is not bigger than Bob Sapp, bro. Not even close.

Way more talented though.

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Bas gets grappled.

Overeem would crush him. Prime Bas wasn't that big. Can't have been more that 220lbs.

Bas got up there after he retired, but IIRC, Bas claims to have had to drink a bunch of water to get above the 200 lb minimum for HW for at least one of his two HW fights. There may be guys fighting at WW who weigh as much in the cage as Bas did for some of the fights in his prime.
 
In an MMA fight? The Reem. Way too much size advantage.
In a ring with boots on and no gloves like Bas used to do? Bad

In a street/bar fight? Reem leaves in a coffin
 
Bas by KO.

Overeem admitted that he never submitted Bas in training and Bas is the man I'd bet on in the standup.


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We really comparing Overeem to Bob fucking Sapp?

Overeem is much bigger, stronger and just as talented, if not more.

Was just making a point about size. It's not everything and Reem not being a big power wrestler it will mean less against a guy like Bas. Like i said before his speed and in ring IQ is too much for Reem.
 
Prime Fedor, Prime Mirko and Ubereem are the best HW fighters in MMA.
 
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