Why do so many people discredit Shogun's run in the 2005 grand prix in PRIDE? I constantly hear claims such as "Wanderlei been through a war with Arona and Shogun beat a tired Arona" or even more ridiculousness where "Wanderlei lost to Arona so Shogun can have a shot to become a champ" Did people honestly watch these fights? Or do they look at the wikipedia and come to a conclusion that Wandy x Arona 15 mins > Shogun x Overeem was 5~6 mins therefore, Arona was more exhausted, making it an easy win for SHogun when he faced Arona. First off, I'd like to point out Arona completely had his way with Wandy. Circle around-leg kicks-takedown-top positional control, like classic Arona style fighting. It wasn't a back and fourth war, Arona manhandled Wandy. When you have your way with your opponent, you don't generally get tired, so the myth of Arona 'exhausted' when he faced Shogun is questionable. Also, Wandy x Arona happened before Shogun x Overeem and Shogun x Arona happened after Cro Cop x FEdor. Arona had plenty of time to rest up before SHogun. Secondly, Shogun x Overeem I was one of the most intense paced match I've ever seen in 205lb. Both guys literally sprinted to the finish and I'd say Shogun's been in more of a 'war' than Arona against Wandy. To sum up, this is the timeline: Arona cruised to victory-Shogun went through hell against Overeem-Fedor vs Cro Cop- Shogun vs Arona. There shouldn't be any reason to think Arona was more tired out than Shogun.