Crime President Biden declares Easter Sunday a Transgender Day of Visibility

[blackheart]

Again, it's completely besides the point that Easter doesn't have a set date.

If it doesn't have a set date then you can't target it by having another "holiday" that is on a fixed date. Again - are you special needs? Why do the A - B - Cs have to be explained to you?

 

[Tatra]

If it doesn't have a set date then you can't target it by having another "holiday" that is on a fixed date. Again - are you special needs? Why do the A - B - Cs have to be explained to you?

There's plenty other days in the year which would have no chance of falling on the same day as the most sacred day for Christians.

 

[Jack V Savage]

That's the thing Jack. We used to be pretty friendly on here. Aligned on a lot of topics so that's probably why. Now whenever I run into you, you do this. "Oh the problem is you support" and then you start inserting republican talking points I know I never said here or anywhere else, because I have never in my entire life been a republican. But it's like your a chatbot or something now. Like you don't even remember talking about all this stuff in these forums for years. It's honestly kind of unsettling.

I don't remember you (did you change your name?). But I see this crazy stuff in this thread, and I think you were in another one as an economy Truther. And what would you think? Like, the main stakes in the next election are going to be centered around the TCJA sunsetting next year. Are we going to have a tax hike on rich people to save major entitlements and reduce deficits or are we going to have an extension, plus new tax cuts for the rich, along with a huge cut in SS, and higher deficits, partly offset by tax increases on the middle class? You can look into it yourself. But Republicans know that their policy choices are very unpopular so they're trying to make it a referendum on trans people. "You hate them, we hate them, vote for us!" It's totally irrelevant bullshit, and it absolutely doesn't reflect any change in the usual stakes of politics.

 

[Islam Imamate]

It's all the stuff I mentioned in other posts Psy. The indoctrination in academia and the media, men invading women's spaces and sports. Giving hormones to children going through puberty, doing surgeries on people that aren't fully developed yet. And there's no logic or data or research to support any of it, but even though the left is supposed to be the party of science if you bring any of this up the mob just turns on you. Critical thought is just gone. And as far as which party has gone more insane, I dunno man they're both pretty bad. I'm not sure what reasonable adults are supposed to do, because I don't see leadership on either side.

Again I don't deny that there's reasonable disagreements to be had on many of those issues and that I might even agree with the right on more than a few. But as I said don't you see how these issues get an insanely disproportionate amount of attention relative to virtually everything else? Resisting the trans agenda is basically one of the core party platforms of the GOP despite the fact that it affects very few people.

Let me ask you a few questions to make the point. How many transgender do you personally know? How many botched transitions? Now, compare that to how many people you know who have been in car accidents. How many had moderate to severe injuries? How many died? I am almost certain that you know more folks involved in car accidents than those who are transgender unless your job requires you to work with transgenders or populations that are more likely to be transgender and that would be true for almost everyone in the US. And yet reducing deaths from car accidents, which are on the rise btw, does not get anywhere near the same attention as the transgender issue. Its pure insanity.

 

[Mike]

I don't remember you (did you change your name?). But I see this crazy stuff in this thread, and I think you were in another one as an economy Truther. And what would you think? Like, the main stakes in the next election are going to be centered around the TCJA sunsetting next year. Are we going to have a tax hike on rich people to save major entitlements and reduce deficits or are we going to have an extension, plus new tax cuts for the rich, along with a huge cut in SS, and higher deficits, partly offset by tax increases on the middle class? You can look into it yourself. But Republicans know that their policy choices are very unpopular so they're trying to make it a referendum on trans people. "You hate them, we hate them, vote for us!" It's totally irrelevant bullshit, and it absolutely doesn't reflect any change in the usual stakes of politics.

Bro we even posted in offshoots together but ok. I've had this same av since Frankie died and this name for like 7 or 8 years since I changed it from Mike90. And no I'm not an economy truther lmao. You seem to have me confused with a bunch of different random morons but that's ok. I'm not offended.

 

[Scerpi]

Liberals are still about fair pay and equal rights. The reason you come off as a right-wing loon is precisely posts like this, where you uncritically support rightist propaganda about a changed agenda.

There's a huge portion of the LGB community that disagrees with you and doesn't support the Trans insanity of the last few years.

lol...

 

[blackheart]

There's plenty other days in the year which would have no chance of falling on the same day as the most sacred day for Christians.

no one is required to give a shit about your religion. take your christian victim complex and go away

 

[Tatra]

no one is required to give a shit about your religion. take your christian victim complex and go away

Toys out the pram, as expected. Typical for libs. It took a little longer than usual to get there, but we got there in the end.

 

[Islam Imamate]

no one is required to give a shit about your religion. take your christian victim complex and go away

I don't agree with that at all, I think the POTUS should have a certain level of sensitivity when dealing with religion.

I just disagree that Biden did anything insensitive here. And either way its kind of rich that people are reaching so hard to argue Biden is being insensitive here when Trump was purposefully insensitive towards Muslims. But of course from the right wing perspective being insensitive towards the outgroups like Muslims is not a bug but a feature.

 

[Tatra]

I don't agree with that at all, I think the POTUS should have a certain level of sensitivity when dealing with religion.

I just disagree that Biden did anything insensitive here. And either way its kind of rich that people are reaching so hard to argue Biden is being insensitive here when Trump was purposefully insensitive towards Muslims. But of course from the right wing perspective being insensitive towards the outgroups like Muslims is not a bug but a feature.

Muslims have no place in the USA/West. Christians do. We can be as insensitive to Muslims as we like. Are you aware of how religious minorities are treated in the Muslim world?

 

[Jack V Savage]

Bro we even posted in offshoots together but ok. I've had this same av since Frankie died and this name for like 7 or 8 years since I changed it from Mike90. And no I'm not an economy truther lmao. You seem to have me confused with a bunch of different random morons but that's ok. I'm not offended.

Did you get the point of my post, though?

And you weren't trying to argue that actually the economy is bad and low unemployment rates are a bad thing?

 

[Scerpi]

I guess there are only 3 if you ignore all the other ones lmao.

Here are just the Christian ones:

01/06/20--Epiphany
01/06/20--Three King's Day
01/06/20--Christmas-Armenia
01/12/20 - Baptism of the Lord Jesus
Day
02/16-22/20- Brotherhood/Sisterhood Week
02/25/20 - Shrove Tuesday
02/26/20--Ash Wednesday-Lent Begins
03/17/20--St. Patrick's Day
03/19/20--St. Joseph's Day
03/25/20--Annunciation
04/5/20--Palm Sunday
04/9/20--Holy Thursday (Maundy Thursday)
04/10/20--Good Friday
04/12/20--Easter
04/13/20--Easter Monday
05/21/20--Ascension
05/31/20--Pentecost
06/7/20 - Trinity Sunday
06/11/20--Corpus Christi
08/01/20 - Lammas
08/15/20--Assumption
10/31/20 - All Hallows Eve
11/01/20--All Saints' Day
11/02/20--All Souls Day
11/29/20- First Day of Advent
11/30/20--St. Andrew's Day
12/06/20--St. Nicholas Day
12/08/20--Feast of Immaculate Conception.
12/13/20--Santa Lucia Day
12/23/20- Joseph Smith's Birthday (Mormon)
12/25/20--Christmas

All hallows eve?
St Patrick's day?

lol...

Might as well throw Mardi Grai while you're at it.

Come on!! Lets start a petition to pressure Biden to publicly support Lammas!!! Or the Feast of Immaculate Conception

 

[Mike]

Again I don't deny that there's reasonable disagreements to be had on many of those issues and that I might even agree with the right on more than a few. But as I said don't you see how these issues get an insanely disproportionate amount of attention relative to virtually everything else? Resisting the trans agenda is basically one of the core party platforms of the GOP despite the fact that it affects very few people.

Let me ask you a few questions to make the point. How many transgender do you personally know? How many botched transitions? Now, compare that to how many people you know who have been in car accidents. How many had moderate to severe injuries? How many died? I am almost certain that you know more folks involved in car accidents than those who are transgender unless your job requires you to work with transgenders or populations that are more likely to be transgender and that would be true for almost everyone in the US. And yet reducing deaths from car accidents, which are on the rise btw, does not get anywhere near the same attention as the transgender issue. Its pure insanity.

How many trans people have I known? Oh buddy, you could not have known. Met my first at my second job in 2000. One of my bosses. No surgery, just a big ass man wearing skirts and dresses. Around that time I started meeting them here and there through social circles. I don't know how it was in the rest of the country, but this stuff was relatively commonplace in the Seattle area in the early 00's. In 2006 my best friend and roommate at the time came out as trans and started wearing dresses and makeup while living with me. The job I had at that time also had a trans person there. Believe it or not about half of the jobs I had when I lived near Seattle had at least one trans person there. Nobody I've met has transitioned AFAIK, just rather obviously masculine looking men dressing like women. My current job has at least one I've seen in my department, and I'm sure there are others I haven't seen because it's a huge place.

So yeah for me personally at least these people aren't hypothetical. They've been all around me since I was a young adult.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

I just disagree that Biden did anything insensitive here. And either way its kind of rich that people are reaching so hard to argue Biden is being insensitive here when Trump was purposefully insensitive towards Muslims. But of course from the right wing perspective being insensitive towards the outgroups like Muslims is not a bug but a feature.

He was less insensitive towards the muslims than the previous two presidents, since he probably killed the least muslims compared to obama and bush.
muslim lives matter.

 

[Mike]

Did you get the point of my post, though?

And you weren't trying to argue that actually the economy is bad and low unemployment rates are a bad thing?

I believe what I argued is employment statistics in a vacuum aren't meaningful because so many people are underemployed. Precisely because the government subsidizes corporations to create millions of jobs that don't pay people enough to live, and allowed wages to remain stagnant for the poor for generations. And I stand by that.

 

[Islam Imamate]

He was less insensitive towards the muslims than the previous two presidents, since he probably killed the least muslims compared to obama and bush.
muslim lives matter.

Obviously missing the point I made by a mile but even on that point I am not sure I agree.

During Mr Obama's eight years in office, 1,878 drone strikes were carried out, according to researchers. Since Mr Trump was elected in 2016, there have been 2,243 drone strikes. The Republican president has also made some of the operations, the ones outside of war zones, more secretive. As a result, things have different today: under Mr Trump, there are more drone strikes - and less transparency.

More drone strikes in four years under Trump than eight years under Obama and with less oversight.

How many trans people have I known? Oh buddy, you could not have known. Met my first at my second job in 2000. One of my bosses. No surgery, just a big ass man wearing skirts and dresses. Around that time I started meeting them here and there through social circles. I don't know how it was in the rest of the country, but this stuff was relatively commonplace in the Seattle area in the early 00's. In 2006 my best friend and roommate at the time came out as trans and started wearing dresses and makeup while living with me. The job I had at that time also had a trans person there. Believe it or not about half of the jobs I had when I lived near Seattle had at least one trans person there. Nobody I've met has transitioned AFAIK, just rather obviously masculine looking men dressing like women. My current job has at least one I've seen in my department, and I'm sure there are others I haven't seen because it's a huge place.

So yeah for me personally at least these people aren't hypothetical. They've been all around me since I was a young adult.

How many do you know have been in car accidents? How many had serious injuries or died? How much do those transgenders in your life affect you?

 

[Jack V Savage]

I believe what I argued is employment statistics in a vacuum aren't meaningful because so many people are underemployed. Precisely because the government subsidizes corporations to create millions of jobs that don't pay people enough to live, and allowed wages to remain stagnant for the poor for generations. And I stand by that.

Well, good thing no one looks solely at U3 to determine the strength of the economy then!

And the other point was just that by disproportionately focusing on an irrelevant issue where you have some rightist views, you're defending an irrational partisan narrative. I pointed out what the key issues in the upcoming election are. You can also look backwards. Biden's priorities were getting past the pandemic, promoting an economic recovery (with a bottom-up focus), shoring up our infrastructure, improving healthcare coverage, reducing carbon emissions, and promoting a liberal international order. He actually took huge steps on all of those issues. And aside from the pandemic and sometimes the need to get out of a recession, those have been consistent liberal priorities for a long time (since FDR). But you're promoting the insane partisan notion that transgendered people are like the key issue.

 

[Mike]

Obviously missing the point I made by a mile but even on that point I am not sure I agree.

More drone strikes in four years under Trump than eight years under Obama and with less oversight.

How many do you know have been in car accidents? How many had serious injuries or died?

How many trans people have I known that were in car accidents? I'm sure I don't know.

 

[Islam Imamate]

How many trans people have I known that were in car accidents? I'm sure I don't know.

I meant how many people in general do you know have been in car accidents.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Obviously missing the point I made by a mile but even on that point I am not sure I agree.

More drone strikes in four years under Trump than eight years under Obama and with less oversight.

drone strikes is only part of it. why only talk about that?
obama had 8 years of two wars with military operations galore.
i'd like to see total kill numbers. with the post surge and all that shit.
i'd bet it's more in obama's time.