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I just find it curious that the things people cite as negatives toward pro-wrestling as a form of entertainment...are the very same things they cite as positives in movies/television.

Stuntmen are stuntmen, and scripts are scripts. The only real difference is in the production.
 
I just find it curious that the things people cite as negatives toward pro-wrestling as a form of entertainment...are the very same things they cite as positives in movies/television.

Stuntmen are stuntmen, and scripts are scripts. The only real difference is in the production.

The clear double-standard and hypocrisy by the mainstream media towards pro wrestling is bizarre if anything when you think about it logically. Movies/TV shows are fake, but you don't see the media go around and say 'X' TV show is fake, how dare you watch it. But that mindset applies to pro-wrestling which is fake, but still a form of entertainment.

Every-one has different tastes in entertainment, some just happen to like pro wrestling and to judge people on the form of entertainment they watch is pathetic to be honest. Enjoy what you enjoy, but don't judge people on what they watch on TV, judge them for the person they are.

MMA to this day get unfairly and wrongly categorized as 'barbaric' cage-fighting as seen in some sections of the media.
 
Struggle stole my intellectual property.
 
Pro wrestling > reality and competition programming.
 
Can you give me a quick explanation in your own words why you feel this way? This mind set fascinates me. I am genuinely curious what events in your life drove you to this offensive and elitist point of view.

I would appreciate a civil, non condescending response with as few insults as possible.

I'll respond. I'm on this forum because I loved wrestling when I grew up and recently started rewatching some of those old events. They're goofy as shit, but I remember how crazy we got as kids watching it.

Every time I watch pro wrestling that I have no attachment to I roll my eyes and groan at how stupid it is and change the channel. It doesn't have any of the qualities that I enjoy in any other form of entertainment: the characters and storylines are so silly, so cartoonish and so aggressively pandering that they're on par with Maury, which I also do not enjoy. Though I do not enjoy watching many sports, I love watching combat sports and there is literally nothing in American pro-wrestling action that interests me. At least in stiff puroresu matches I can spend a few minutes watching authentic martial arts movements before I turn to something else.

Not only is there nothing about it that appeals to me, there's nothing about it that doesn't seem stupid to me. It's like a particularly bad pop/rap song or a thoroughly shitty movie.

However, I have a friend who puts on local shows and every time he tells me what they're planning I get jazzed up to see them because it's creative and usually he manages to work in ideas that are legitimately intriguing (like one time he dressed as a bum and spent hours before the show panhandling on the streets, then during the show one of the tag team partners was too injured to go on so they gave this bum $20 and sent him into the ring -- it was done so well that a good number of people thought it really was shoddy promotion sending in a bum and were worried for him, but as the match progressed they realized what was going on and went crazy with delight because they had been gotten). I see none of those qualities in prowrestling on TV. It's literally just people doing stupid things and taking themselves very seriously, which is a surefire combination to make me think you're peddling a crappy product, whether you're a wrestler, a singer or an actor/director/whatever. I think I could potentially find more value in prowrestling if they didn't take themselves so seriously. That's a deal killer for me when you're product is something really, really lacking in originality, creativity or sophistication. Some of the weirder puroresu things are intriguing to me for this reason.

EDIT: reading the rest of this thread, I feel I need to point out that I don't care what you like as a fan and I don't feel superior to you. Sometimes I go onto youtube and laugh hysterically watching videos of fat people falling down so I'm not about to look down on people for enjoying the pure crap that they enjoy. People were getting really personally ruffled by that other guy speaking badly of prowrestling so I want to nip that in the bud here. Brony, prowrestling fan, opera fanatic... everyone like something different.
 
1.Chris Jericho got into a real fight backstage and won againts wrestler Bill Goldberg .

2. John Cena got divorced with his wife shortly after , The Rock made joke about Cena kissing Eve on RAW .

3.Somebody else already used Brodus Clay's theme music back in 2004-2005 .

4.Booker T got into a real backstage fight with wrestler Dave Batista and knocked him out .

5.There have been 70 different Intercontinental Champions and Chris Jericho holds
the record of nine time champion .


6.Chris Jericho is the first undisputed champion holding both championships at the same time (currently the WWE championship and the World heavyweight championship)

7. Jake The Snake roberts never won a title in his entire carrier.

8. Jerry Lawler and the Honky Tonk Man are cousins.

9. The Intercontinental Championship has changed hands 12 times in 2001, the most times ever in recorded history. That averages to once per month.

10.The WWE Championship has changed hands 11 times in 1999, the most times ever in recorded history.

11. Number #27 has won more Rumble matches than anyone else.

12. Each WWE camera is valued at over $80,000.

Earnest Miller used Brodus clays theme in WCW
 
I'll respond. I'm on this forum because I loved wrestling when I grew up and recently started rewatching some of those old events. They're goofy as shit, but I remember how crazy we got as kids watching it.

Every time I watch pro wrestling that I have no attachment to I roll my eyes and groan at how stupid it is and change the channel. It doesn't have any of the qualities that I enjoy in any other form of entertainment: the characters and storylines are so silly, so cartoonish and so aggressively pandering that they're on par with Maury, which I also do not enjoy. Though I do not enjoy watching many sports, I love watching combat sports and there is literally nothing in American pro-wrestling action that interests me. At least in stiff puroresu matches I can spend a few minutes watching authentic martial arts movements before I turn to something else.

Not only is there nothing about it that appeals to me, there's nothing about it that doesn't seem stupid to me. It's like a particularly bad pop/rap song or a thoroughly shitty movie.

However, I have a friend who puts on local shows and every time he tells me what they're planning I get jazzed up to see them because it's creative and usually he manages to work in ideas that are legitimately intriguing (like one time he dressed as a bum and spent hours before the show panhandling on the streets, then during the show one of the tag team partners was too injured to go on so they gave this bum $20 and sent him into the ring -- it was done so well that a good number of people thought it really was shoddy promotion sending in a bum and were worried for him, but as the match progressed they realized what was going on and went crazy with delight because they had been gotten). I see none of those qualities in prowrestling on TV. It's literally just people doing stupid things and taking themselves very seriously, which is a surefire combination to make me think you're peddling a crappy product, whether you're a wrestler, a singer or an actor/director/whatever. I think I could potentially find more value in prowrestling if they didn't take themselves so seriously. That's a deal killer for me when you're product is something really, really lacking in originality, creativity or sophistication. Some of the weirder puroresu things are intriguing to me for this reason.

EDIT: reading the rest of this thread, I feel I need to point out that I don't care what you like as a fan and I don't feel superior to you. Sometimes I go onto youtube and laugh hysterically watching videos of fat people falling down so I'm not about to look down on people for enjoying the pure crap that they enjoy. People were getting really personally ruffled by that other guy speaking badly of prowrestling so I want to nip that in the bud here. Brony, prowrestling fan, opera fanatic... everyone like something different.

I agree with everything you said here. I don't think you are the type of person that the question was directed at though. You sound just like me. After I stopped watching regularly back in 2003 I would randomly tune in years later and didn't know most of the new talent. So I felt the exact same way... But as an attitude era fan I never insulted others for still watching. I understood the appeal and would never stoop to the "it's fake" insult.

I didn't get back into it until 2013 when the shield was dominate.. I randomly tuned in the night they turned face vs the authority and I have watched every RAW since. But I can def see how someone who was an attitude era fan coming in today and watching a lucha dragon match or a stardust match would cringe and change the channel.
 
I agree with everything you said here. I don't think you are the type of person that the question was directed at though. You sound just like me. After I stopped watching regularly back in 2003 I would randomly tune in years later and didn't know most of the new talent. So I felt the exact same way... But as an attitude era fan I never insulted others for still watching. I understood the appeal and would never stoop to the "it's fake" insult.

I didn't get back into it until 2013 when the shield was dominate.. I randomly tuned in the night they turned face vs the authority and I have watched every RAW since. But I can def see how someone who was an attitude era fan coming in today and watching a lucha dragon match or a stardust match would cringe and change the channel.

I watched from 85-92. Pretty much stopped when I hit puberty because... puberty was more interesting. I don't know if, even as a kid, I could have been a fan of the attitude era. When I was watching it they knew they were god damn silly and putting on a shtick, which was pretty fun for a kid. The Attitude Era seems like it was the peak of wrestlers taking themselves seriously and I think, even as a teen, that would have turned me off.
 
'Real American' wasn't meant for Hulk Hogan. It was written (and I believe used for a short while) for the US Express.
 
Also, whoever posted that link to the Wrestling Stories killed the first part of my day. Anyone have any other websites with pre-nineties behind-the-scenes gossip?
 
Also, on that wrestling stories website I found this:

If old time shooters like Ed Strangler Lewis or Frank Gotch were to look down from the heavens I’m sure they’d be more impressed with Randy and Mick’s realism and psychology than Flair’s phony chops and upside-down flips into the corner – where amazingly he somehow landed right on his feet – only to jog down to the next corner, where he climbed right up and – even more amazingly – took ten or fifteen seconds to maneuver his opponent’s hands carefully onto his chest so he could take a phony [flip] back into the ring!

If done on rare occasions, such silly routines, because they are highly amusing and entertaining, often go undetected for how ridiculously phony they are.

But this pathetic routine was performed every time Flair went blank – and let me tell you, he went blank all the time!

And looked up Flair on youtube to see those weird corner / flipping antics (which I kind of remember, but not really) and found this match:

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I don't remember Ric Flair EVER looking jacked. I suspect this is a pretty obvious case of roiding for the big event, but I'm not a knowledgable enough fan to be sure.
 
'Real American' wasn't meant for Hulk Hogan. It was written (and I believe used for a short while) for the US Express.

It was used by Mr America in the early 2000s.

Here's another about entrance themes, kurt angles theme was used before by The Patriot in 97
 
WCW Slamboree 94 is the only WCW card where everybody on the card is still alive.
 
- Kane is the only man in WWE history to win a World Championship as both a masked and unmasked wrestler.

- Mick Foley is the only man to enter the Royal Rumble under four different names. Rikishi is second with three.

- Tony "Ludvig Borga" Halme is the first WWE wrestler to compete in the UFC.

- The UK has had the most WWE SuperStars without a World Champion. Currently standing at 14.
 

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