Post Here if You Scored R3 for Claudia

[Fahrenheit1221]

I wish judges used the whole scale of 1-10 and not just hand out 10-9s for the majority of rounds and rarely ever give 10-8 or anything less. What was the scores for the Khalil/Sanchez fight? 30-25, 30-25, 30-26?

Jesus, that was brutal and hard to watch. Boring to most I would imagine but Sanchez just dominated. It was grueling. Not pretty but a win is a win and 30-25 has to be rare.

 

[egk]

Just making sure.

How this is even a discussion is mindblowing to me.

I come on here after the fight and see multiple people claiming Claudia won R3 and I just couldn't fucking believe it.

It's because JJ was apparently a big meany on TUF and emos wanted Claudia so bad they could taste it

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

For the noob with the yellow card

The following objective scoring criteria shall be utilized by the judges when scoring a round;

1. A round is to be scored as a 10-10 Round when both contestants appear to be fighting evenly and neither contestant shows dominance in a round;

2. A round is to be scored as a 10-9 Round when a contestant wins by a close margin, landing the greater number of effective legal strikes, grappling and other maneuvers;

3. A round is to be scored as a 10-8 Round when a contestant overwhelmingly dominates by striking or grappling in a round.

4. A round is to be scored as a 10-7 Round when a contestant totally dominates by striking or grappling in a round.

http://www.abcboxing.com/committee-report-on-unified-rules-for-mma/




75-6, kid.

 

[johncola]

I said it in the live thread: round 3 woulda been 10-8 Joanna if she wasnt clipped a couple times that round. Scoring that round for Claudia is unacceptable. It wasn't a close round. Rounds 4 and 5 were clear 10-8 rounds.

 

[egk]

4th. I thought Big John was going to stop it for a second, or a maybe the corner was going to thrown in the towel.

I saw Big John tell Claudia to fight back in rd 4. I thought he was going to stop it if she didnt respond. I gave JJ a 10-8 round because all Claudia did was eat punches.

 

[BoosieBoo]

Oh, I understand completely that the numbers don't tell the whole story. There's plenty of times a fighter who outlanded their opponent got the worst of the striking. That wasn't the case tonight. The wide striking differential is a fair reflection of why Joanna won the third and dominated the last two rounds.

Negative. the understood difference between 10-9 and 10-8 is damage inflicted. As said before Claudia not rocked or hurt once. She didn't even stutter step. Weak jabs and leg kicks no matter how many doesn't constitute a 10-8.

 

[Fahrenheit1221]

And throwing 50 strikes to 5 IS not the epitome of aggression ?

If I'm not mistaken she landed 50 strikes, not thrown, landed. Which only strengthens your case.

 

[BoosieBoo]

I saw Big John tell Claudia to fight back in rd 4. I thought he was going to stop it if she didnt respond. I gave JJ a 10-8 round because all Claudia did was eat punches.

Claudia was gassed. That post usada brazillian type of gas tank. Don't confuse being tired with being hurt. she was fine.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

Negative. the understood difference between 10-9 and 10-8 is damage inflicted. As said before Claudia not rocked or hurt once. She didn't even stutter step. Weak jabs and leg kicks no matter how many doesn't constitute a 10-8.

If the understood difference between 10-8 and 10-9 is damage inflicted, why are 10-8s often handed out to rounds where one fighter maintained top grappling control for the round while inflicting very little damage?

 

[Fahrenheit1221]

Negative. the understood difference between 10-9 and 10-8 is damage inflicted. As said before Claudia not rocked or hurt once. She didn't even stutter step. Weak jabs and leg kicks no matter how many doesn't constitute a 10-8.

As far as I know "damage inflicted" isn't one of the criteria for the 10 point must system. It was in Pride however.

 

[HydralisK]

If you did you're probably retarded in my honest (and extremely professional scoring) opinion.

 

[BoosieBoo]

If the understood difference between 10-8 and 10-9 is damage inflicted, why are 10-8s often handed out to rounds where one fighter maintained top grappling control for the round while inflicting very little damage?

There are differences in grappling dominance and striking dominance. They are scored differently. a 10-8 in striking is inflicting damage by rocking or hurting the opponent. In grappling judging constant rag dolling and taking mount non stop would constitute a 10-8.

 

[BoosieBoo]

As far as I know "damage inflicted" isn't one of the criteria for the 10 point must system. It was in Pride however.

It's a super grey area, no one really knows what the real difference is between 10-9 and 10-8. But people who watch mma a lot should know that if you don't hurt your opponent once....you don't get a 10-8 if it's all stand up. Ridic to think otherwise. Claudia was tired not hurt.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

There are differences in grappling dominance and striking dominance. They are scored differently. a 10-8 in striking is inflicting damage by rocking or hurting the opponent. In grappling judging constant rag dolling and taking mount non stop would constitute a 10-8.

They weren't scored differently Boozie. All three judges gave Joanna at least one 10-8 round. Watching round 4, it was easy to see it would be scored 10-8.

 

[IVovchanchyn]

Fuck my life I recorded that fight and my dvr cut off at the beginning of the third round.

When you pvr stuff like sports, always manually set it instead of recording the pre-determined time slot. I always set hockey games or ufc cards for an extra hour. incase all decisions in fights, or overtime.

 

[BoosieBoo]

They weren't scored differently Boozie. All three judges gave Joanna at least one 10-8 round. Watching round 4, it was easy to see it would be scored 10-8.

Mma judges are stupid as fuck and disagree with each other all the time. You shouldn't cite them. Most mma websites scored it 48-47 anyways.

And it's boosie.

 

[Fahrenheit1221]

It's a super grey area, no one really knows what the real difference is between 10-9 and 10-8. But people who watch mma a lot should know that if you don't hurt your opponent once....you don't get a 10-8 if it's all stand up. Ridic to think otherwise. Claudia was tired not hurt.

I agree she was more tired than hurt but at the same time there have been fights (like the Roundtree/Sanchez) where dominant lay and pray even warrants a 10-8 at times.

 

[egk]

Claudia was gassed. That post usada brazillian type of gas tank. Don't confuse being tired with being hurt. she was fine.

It doesn't change the fact that if you stop fighting a ref will likely stop the fight. She wasn't hurt to the point of being knocked out but she was definitely hurting by then. JJ landed something like 75 strikes in that round to Glaudia's 6 and Claudia had no takedowns and nothing else.

 

[thewhiterooster]

i'm a claudia fan, but she lost the fight. no question about it. to argue it is silly.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

Mma judges are stupid as fuck and disagree with each other all the time. You shouldn't cite them. Most mma websites scored it 48-47 anyways.

And it's boosie.

All three judges scored round 4 10-8. But since you don't want me to cite the judges, can you cite anything in the Unified Rules to back up your position?