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[Blayt7hh]

both porn usage and drug usage directly harms others. First your buying your drugs from a criminal economy which brings about tremendous amounts of death and violence. Second if you get to the point where you cant work anymore, you are only going to be able to get your money for drugs by selling drugs yourself, stealing or selling your body.

The only thing you listed bad about drugs is that the government makes it illegal. If it wasn’t illegal, then that wouldn’t even be an issue.

But I’ll grant you that not all drugs should be legal. Those drugs that are chemically addictive and have high mortality rates, unlike pornography.

 

[Blayt7hh]

I don't think it's a moral panic topic. I think porn is severely damaging for men and women, in different way, and is against the basic dignity of a human being.

Lots of girls are being exploited and abused, lots of STDs are being transmitted, lots of lonely men have their dopamine circuit destroyed and view women trough a bizarre lens.

I think that anthropologically sex has always been a major issue in every civilization, but that this outlet is not a progress. Because it's new (historically speaking) and wasn't accepted before doesn't mean it's good. Which sadly seem to be the only two reasons needed to validate something nowadays.

The porn industry as a whole is pretty gross. I’m on board with more laws regulating its behavior.

But this really does have the hallmarks of your classic moral panic. We have a bunch of bunk “studies” on an issue that arose seemingly overnight. I’m not saying there isn’t a kernel of truth at the core because there is. What I am saying is the scope of the problem is a fraction of what people seem to believe it is

 

[Aurelian]

Take out illegal acts. Do you agree with his premise that if something makes you feel good that makes it okay ?

Does humans enjoying sexual material disturb you this deeply? If you repress human desires you'll get outcomes far worse than just watching porn.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

both porn usage and drug usage directly harms others. First your buying your drugs from a criminal economy which brings about tremendous amounts of death and violence. Second if you get to the point where you cant work anymore, you are only going to be able to get your money for drugs by selling drugs yourself, stealing or selling your body.

Would you also ban alcohol? Nicotine?

 

[Lycandroid]

What kinds of drugs are you talking about? Because there is plenty of drug use that's NOT from a black market economy. The most abused drugs in the US are prescription painkillers.

The illegality and harsh policing towards illegal drugs has done absolutely fuck all to curtail violence or use. That should give you a clue as to how effective banning pornography would be. Decfiminlization programs have been tenfold more effective.

A sexual degenerate is a sexual degenerate. A nymphomaniac is a nymphomaniac. Banning pornography isnt going to stop these things from existing. It's just going to create more disdain in the population, which tends to be an outcome political extremists favor. Much easier to radicalize someone who is sexually repressed and frustrated.

Pushing for something to be banned BECAUSE it can be abused just seems dumb. Ban everything.

i was talking about hard drugs. The abuse of prescription painkillers is for sure a huge problem a doctor prescribing them willy nilly is no different than a drug dealer. The issue was the idea that it's a victimless crime which it is not. Decriminalization has not worked, Safe injections sites and hard reductions have only resulted in a vast increase in deaths, continued usage and overall suffering. It is not harm reduction whatsoever, It just passes it from the addict to the surrounding community while facilitating the act to occur at a much higher level before. You give an addict free reign to do drugs, they aren't going to work where are they going to get the money from ? Welfare is only enough to cover your fix for a short time. You are then forcing people to commit crimes and further victimize people in order to fund an addiction that you helped enable.

War on drugs didn't work yes, but giving up having a free for all is not the answer. You just punishing everyone else because you can't deal with the problem

The only thing you listed bad about drugs is that the government makes it illegal. If it wasn’t illegal, then that wouldn’t even be an issue.

But I’ll grant you that not all drugs should be legal. Those drugs that are chemically addictive and have high mortality rates, unlike pornography.

The only thing you responded to is government making it illegal, which is not what I said. I said it is not a victimless crime. Learn to read.

Does humans enjoying sexual material disturb you this deeply? If you repress human desires you'll get outcomes far worse than just watching porn.

Was there a massive rape epidemic before porn was widely available to quench everyone's thirst ? No your theory is stupid. How many serial killers have stated that the reason why they went down the path they did was because of pornography ? That is very well documented.

Would you also ban alcohol? Nicotine?

No, but I would be for a ban on asking me stupid questions.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

i was talking about hard drugs. The abuse of prescription painkillers is for sure a huge problem a doctor prescribing them willy nilly is no different than a drug dealer. The issue was the idea that it's a victimless crime which it is not. Decriminalization has not worked, Safe injections sites and hard reductions have only resulted in a vast increase in deaths, continued usage and overall suffering. It is not harm reduction whatsoever, It just passes it from the addict to the surrounding community while facilitating the act to occur at a much higher level before. You give an addict free reign to do drugs, they aren't going to work where are they going to get the money from ? Welfare is only enough to cover your fix for a short time. You are then forcing people to commit crimes and further victimize people in order to fund an addiction that you helped enable.

War on drugs didn't work yes, but giving up having a free for all is not the answer. You just punishing everyone else because you can't deal with the problem

The only thing you responded to is government making it illegal, which is not what I said. I said it is not a victimless crime. Learn to read.


Was there a massive rape epidemic before porn was widely available to quench everyone's thirst ? No your theory is stupid. How many serial killers have stated that the reason why they went down the path they did was because of pornography ? That is very well documented.

No, but I would be for a ban on asking me stupid questions.

Well if you're banning things that don't provide anything positive to society then surely those things and unhealthy food would have to be up for consideration too?

 

[DoctorTaco]

Porn is for degenerate losers. It's not complicated, it really is just that.

Well, yeah.

both porn usage and drug usage directly harms others. First your buying your drugs from a criminal economy which brings about tremendous amounts of death and violence.

You should meet my mushroom guy. Total sweet heart.

Now please define “graphic sex” like I asked you to 2 pages back plz

 

[Osculater]

Thank god for this law that stopped kids from being able to see naked people

Teh boobs are th3 devil's toys

 

[cincymma79]

The porn industry as a whole is pretty gross. I’m on board with more laws regulating its behavior.

But this really does have the hallmarks of your classic moral panic. We have a bunch of bunk “studies” on an issue that arose seemingly overnight. I’m not saying there isn’t a kernel of truth at the core because there is. What I am saying is the scope of the problem is a fraction of what people seem to believe it is

They have been caught peddling kiddy porn and there’s a lawsuit about that right now. That’s how this happened.

 

[Osculater]

I remember I beat my meat to August Aimes once and only found out she died right after by reading the comments. Lets just say I felt the worst post nut guilt of my life for like a month straight.

 

[Sinister]

i was talking about hard drugs. The abuse of prescription painkillers is for sure a huge problem a doctor prescribing them willy nilly is no different than a drug dealer. The issue was the idea that it's a victimless crime which it is not. Decriminalization has not worked, Safe injections sites and hard reductions have only resulted in a vast increase in deaths, continued usage and overall suffering. It is not harm reduction whatsoever, It just passes it from the addict to the surrounding community while facilitating the act to occur at a much higher level before. You give an addict free reign to do drugs, they aren't going to work where are they going to get the money from ? Welfare is only enough to cover your fix for a short time. You are then forcing people to commit crimes and further victimize people in order to fund an addiction that you helped enable.

War on drugs didn't work yes, but giving up having a free for all is not the answer. You just punishing everyone else because you can't deal with the problem

The only thing you responded to is government making it illegal, which is not what I said. I said it is not a victimless crime. Learn to read.


Was there a massive rape epidemic before porn was widely available to quench everyone's thirst ? No your theory is stupid. How many serial killers have stated that the reason why they went down the path they did was because of pornography ? That is very well documented.

No, but I would be for a ban on asking me stupid questions.

Decrininimalization definitely worked and reduced both crime and deaths in Portugal and Sweden, who had Kensington PA-like drug problems.

And no one said doing drugs was a victimless crime, I said that's a caveat. I dont think DOING DRUGS should be a crime, but the moment you steal from someone else or whatever, that should be a crime. The Government doesnt have much business telling you what you can and cannot put in your body. There are more dangerous things you can ingest than drugs under your sink. Drug policies arent about public safety, they're about control of markets.

And you're in favor of punishing everyone else because you cant deal with a problem. You dont want people to watch porn, and no one is robbing YOU to sustain their porn habit

 

[Lycandroid]

Well, yeah.

You should meet my mushroom guy. Total sweet heart.

Now please define “graphic sex” like I asked you to 2 pages back plz

I got my own shroom guy, I don't think its fair to put natural substances like weed and shrooms in the same category as fentanyl meth heroin ect. The shit that is killing people.

And no I am not going to define graphic sex for you. You already promised you wouldn't be pulling this crap in 2025 remember ?

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Like that's gonna stop hormnonal kids from getting their rocks off lol. Also, who cares? Why is this even a discussion?

 

[Lycandroid]

Decrininimalization definitely worked and reduced both crime and deaths in Portugal and Sweden, who had Kensington PA-like drug problems.

And no one said doing drugs was a victimless crime, I said that's a caveat. I dont think DOING DRUGS should be a crime, but the moment you steal from someone else or whatever, that should be a crime. The Government doesnt have much business telling you what you can and cannot put in your body. There are more dangerous things you can ingest than drugs under your sink. Drug policies arent about public safety, they're about control of markets.

And you're in favor of punishing everyone else because you cant deal with a problem. You dont want people to watch porn, and no one is robbing YOU to sustain their porn habit

It worked in Portugal and Spain because they gave people caught with drugs the option of going to rehab and getting clean or pay a fine. They actually invested in turning peoples lives around. They didn't enable and encourage people to do more drugs while saying free needles is how you are reducing harm. Here in Canada the idea of putting addicts into rehab is somehow inhuman or uncompassionate.

The price of meth can vary widely, ranging from $3 to $500 per gram. Since most single doses cost about $5, and a gram contains about 4 hits, most grams cost between $20 and $60. A person with a severe meth addiction could spend between $12,775 and $38,325 a year on meth.

How exactly are you able to come up with that money and no job, the only possible way. Now you think about every street addict and every street drug, that is an absolutely insane amount of crime and suffering just to feed a so called victimless crime.

 

[BFoe]

That's not what I said

the only white knights in this thread are the ones with a pile of crusty socks under their beds. Nobody can answer the question why is porn good for society ? Acting like there is nothing bad that happens to these victims, their suffering is warranted as long as you get your nut in. Fuck you losers.

Pornography is exploitation. The only way your going to protect sex workers from exploitation is to make it illegal to exploit them in this way. Just because someone can consent to an action, does not mean it is not exploitation.

Aside from the fact that everyone should wash their crusty socks regularly, there’s nothing inherently wrong with watching porn and spanking it.
Porn is also not inherently exploitative,
I think porn and ex workers should have all the same rights as any other employee, and I’d like to see more/stronger union presence for sex workers as well.

As for benefits? It can help people safely expire different things, express fantasies or kinks that they aren’t sure how to express some other way or maybe aren’t comfortable sharing with another person for various reasons, can make people more aware or accepting of different types of people… all sorts of stuff. Here’s a nice opinion piece about all of that.

A Feminist's Argument On How Sex Work Can Benefit Women - Inquiries Journal

 

[MPD-Psycho]

I'll have to look into it as I believe you're right. Maybe an extra cost, but....that's the point. Didnt pay for this before and shouldnt now.

I travel a lot so I’ve already seen it outright banned in some countries. I had to resort to the same workaround. It’s an extra inconvenience but it’s the easiest way for now.

Also not sure how a simple question got devolved into a heated debate on other things, instead of actually providing helpful answers. Your consumption habit on the said product/service is nobody’s business.

 

[Andy Capp]

I actually LOLed IRL when I read this:

Isn’t the political Right the ones who came up with the term “white knight” as a means of shaming anyone who defends women? Aren’t you the ones who elected a misogynistic rapist and groper of women who is filling his cabinet with others who treat women like garbage, like Hegseth, Gaetz, and RFK? Don’t women factually have less rights in this country than they did just a few years ago because of the people you elected?

If we think there’s some regulations we can pass to protect sex workers from exploitation, I’m very much in favor of that. I am not in favor of banning porn/sex work.

I literally lol'd @ "in disagreement with that concept".

 

[Andy Capp]

both porn usage and drug usage directly harms others. First your buying your drugs from a criminal economy which brings about tremendous amounts of death and violence. Second if you get to the point where you cant work anymore, you are only going to be able to get your money for drugs by selling drugs yourself, stealing or selling your body.

Drug usage directly harms others yet you make excuses for pot and shrooms. So you get to make a judgement that shrooms and weed are ok but other people don't get to make the judgement that the porn they like is ok.

Exceptions are totally ok when you make them but that's not for other people. Got it.

 

[Lycandroid]

Drug usage directly harms others yet you make excuses for pot and shrooms. So you get to make a judgement that shrooms and weed are ok but other people don't get to make the judgement that the porn they like is ok.

Exceptions are totally ok when you make them but that's not for other people. Got it.

Shrooms and weed are completely harmless those are the facts buddy. Both are used to great effect in therapeutic treatments. Nobody is using fentanyl to treat PTSD. Nobody dies or gets addicted to either substance. Nobody gets pimped trafficked abused diseased and psychologically damaged in the production of either substance. I am not making an exception for them they shouldn't even be in the same category in the first place only a complete fool would put them in the same box.

 

[DoctorTaco]

I got my own shroom guy, I don't think its fair to put natural substances like weed and shrooms in the same category as fentanyl meth heroin ect. The shit that is killing people.

And no I am not going to define graphic sex for you. You already promised you wouldn't be pulling this crap in 2025 remember ?

Buddy this isn’t pulling any crap. You are proposing a ban on something, I’m asking you to define that thing you want to ban. I’m even being kind and respectful.