International Population growth in Africa & Europe this century.

[panamaican]

These videos are always fascinating in the things that they don't discuss.

For example - Africa is 3x the landmass of Europe. It makes plenty of sense for the population in Africa to eventually be larger than the population of Europe.

30% of the world's natural resources are in Africa. Again, it would make sense that a part of the world with a huge percentage of the world's resources plus 20% of the world's landmass should eventually have a larger percentage of the world's population. Only Asia is a larger continent and, naturally, they have a larger percentage of the world's population.

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

These videos are always fascinating in the things that they don't discuss.

For example - Africa is 3x the landmass of Europe. It makes plenty of sense for the population in Africa to eventually be larger than the population of Europe.

30% of the world's natural resources are in Africa. Again, it would make sense that a part of the world with a huge percentage of the world's resources plus 20% of the world's landmass should eventually have a larger percentage of the world's population. Only Asia is a larger continent and, naturally, they have a larger percentage of the world's population.

Africa is expected to have 8x the population of Europe and large parts of Africa are desert. In fact, they will have a larger population than Asia by 2100.

 

[PrinceOfPain]

This is why we need to stop aiding Africa. We are enabling them, and ultimately it is coming back to hurt us.

Encourage private investment.
Discourage skilled emigration.
Discourage governement aid.

At present you are not helping africa in the slightest.
You're stealing the skills we need to build something worthwhile, and you're helping to keep corrupt, piece-of-shit leaders in power.

We've got China on the one side, destroying local industry by supplanting it with chinese imports, and on the other side, we've got the 'do-gooder' west making short-sighted investments in long-term corruption.

Don't even get me started in the clusterfuck you all introduced by meddling in Libya.

 

[superpunch]

Making predictions about the year 2100 is as laughable as someone's predictions about 2000 would have been in 1900. There are multiple unforeseen events that will change everything. Especially if all you do is just base everything on projected trends. For example, we very likely won't even be human anymore in 2100. We'll probably be more machine than human at that point. And that's just what's easy to foresee, let alone the other stuff that no one can predict.

 

[WarDosAnjos]

Instead of blaming a certain demographic, I find it a powerful tool to sometimes see things from their eyes. The culture is different there and it's asinine to blame these people or compare them to our cultural standards.

 

[salamander]

First Nigerians will take over the UFC. Next... the World!

Nigeria bless.

 

[tonysmasseuse]

Dear people of Africa and ME

Stop fucking all the time and use the freed-up time and ressources to fix your shit countries.

Thank you.

 

[The ScorpioN]

World War Z wall scene is coming.
Europeans need to reject cultural relativism, learn from the Jews and get a healthy dose of ethnocentrism.
It's already happening, I just hope it happens fast enough to salvage the GOAT people's future.

 

[EradiatedHaggis]

Actually we need to keep helping Africa and other poor parts of the world continue to grow.

The key to population growth control is money. Africa has had the biggest economic turnaround in human history the last 20 years and you can already see a major drop in birth rates there.

All around the world, when a nation starts to get close to being a 1st world nation, the birth rates start to hit an average of 3. The richer the nation, the lower the birth rate.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN

Prime example. in 2000, Rwanda had a birth rate of 5.6, it is now at 3.6
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=RW

Kenya was at 5.2, its now at 3.8
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=KE

Ethiopia was at 6.5...now at 4.1
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=ET

 

[tinker_190]

Instead of blaming a certain demographic, I find it a powerful tool to sometimes see things from their eyes. The culture is different there and it's asinine to blame these people or compare them to our cultural standards.

SImultaneously, though, we live in a world where globalism has pushed very different groups together. As economic conditions improve worldwide, a lot of people finally get the resources to want to move out. I don't think there's anything wrong with looking at voluntary behavior patterns between groups and comparing them.

 

[WarDosAnjos]

SImultaneously, though, we live in a world where globalism has pushed very different groups together. As economic conditions improve worldwide, a lot of people finally get the resources to want to move out. I don't think there's anything wrong with looking at voluntary behavior patterns between groups and comparing them.

I'm just not really sure about the whole globalism thing and I don't really understand it. You believe there is some secretive group of powerful people actively attempting to destroy culture and push people of different demographics together? To what means exactly? And I question how this would even be possible.

Have you ever considered that maybe people from places with lower standards of living simply want to improve their lives and move to more successful areas? I think this makes much more sense then claiming some conspiracy is forcing us together. I know if I lived IN Africa or Mexico/South America and heard about a better place, then I would want to move there. Especially considering what's going on in Syria right now, it makes perfect sense why people would want to leave.

Sometimes the simplest explanation is also the correct one. I have serious doubts about a world wide conspiracy looking to destroy culture

 

[JamesRussler]

People in these nations don't see it as overpopulating they see it as as traditional to have large families, economic development changes that way of thinking.

Maybe someone should get on a bullhorn and tell them “if you don’t have the resources to feed yourself, you don’t have enough for 7 babies.” If ecenomic development helps, great. They need to hurry up and develop themselves economically. But they can’t use my country as a sewer runoff for its overpopulation problems.

 

[tinker_190]

I'm just not really sure about the whole globalism thing and I don't really understand it. You believe there is some secretive group of powerful people actively attempting to destroy culture and push people of different demographics together? To what means exactly? And I question how this would even be possible.

Have you ever considered that maybe people from places with lower standards of living simply want to improve their lives and move to more successful areas? I think this makes much more sense then claiming some conspiracy is forcing us together. I know if I lived IN Africa or Mexico/South America and heard about a better place, then I would want to move there. Especially considering what's going on in Syria right now, it makes perfect sense why people would want to leave.

Sometimes the simplest explanation is also the correct one. I have serious doubts about a world wide conspiracy looking to destroy culture

You seem to think that globalism is some sort of conspiracy theory. It's not. The UN initiated the Global Migrant Pact to loosen restrictions on member states for higher immigration levels. Simultaneously, there's a ton of corporate interest in getting in cheap labor and consumption oriented individuals into an economic zone. Many developed nation's leaders openly call for more migration for pension reasons, need for unskilled labor, etc.

This of course isn't mutually exclusive with the fact that, as you mentioned, there are individuals within poorer societies that want to leave to seek more opportunity. What I was really highlighting is the fact that international actors (big corp, UN, think tanks) have pushed policies to draw those people in. We now have a world with easier international travel and a lot of people in Mexico, South America or the ME now have the means by which to leave for opportunity. We also have more international trade than ever, more international students than ever, etc.

 

[freakroor]

I'm just not really sure about the whole globalism thing and I don't really understand it. You believe there is some secretive group of powerful people actively attempting to destroy culture and push people of different demographics together? To what means exactly? And I question how this would even be possible.

globalism means global capitalism. nobody ITT suggested a conspiracy. pull your head out of your ass.

 

[WarDosAnjos]

You seem to think that globalism is some sort of conspiracy theory. It's not. The UN initiated the Global Migrant Pact to loosen restrictions on member states for higher immigration levels. Simultaneously, there's a ton of corporate interest in getting in cheap labor and consumption oriented individuals into an economic zone. Many developed nation's leaders openly call for more migration for pension reasons, need for unskilled labor, etc.

This of course isn't mutually exclusive with the fact that, as you mentioned, there are individuals within poorer societies that want to leave to seek more opportunity. What I was really highlighting is the fact that international actors (big corp, UN, think tanks) have pushed policies to draw those people in. We now have a world with easier international travel and a lot of people in Mexico, South America or the ME now have the means by which to leave for opportunity. We also have more international trade than ever, more international students than ever, etc.

Thanks for your response. You hit a bunch of good points and helped me understand.

My question for you, and I don't have an agenda with this I genuinely want to know your opinion, is that are you in favor less international interaction in general? As in less international trade, immigration etc. Do you think it would be better for each country to more or less keep to itself and develop from within?

Some of the Scandinavian countries poll very high in terms of happiness statistics and they also have some of the world's strictest immigration policies. Of course, what the right wing doesn't like, is that these are also socialist nations.

 

[WarDosAnjos]

globalism means global capitalism. nobody ITT suggested a conspiracy. pull your head out of your ass.

No need to be a jerk. I refer you to my response above. I'm genuinely trying to have a civil conversation here. Trust me, I can relate to the aggression towards those with different view points or who you see as ignorant. Sometimes its better to remember we all have things to learn. You'll get your point across better that way.

 

[freakroor]

No need to be a jerk. I refer you to my response above. I'm genuinely trying to have a civil conversation here. Trust me, I can relate to the aggression towards those with different view points or who you see as ignorant. Sometimes its better to remember we all have things to learn. You'll get your point across better that way.

sorry i thought it was obvious what globalism means.

 

[panamaican]

Africa is expected to have 8x the population of Europe and large parts of Africa are desert. In fact, they will have a larger population than Asia by 2100.

Sure, because both Asia and Europe are seeing a significant slowdown in their populations to below replacement rates.

To put things in context, Sub-Saharan Africa's fertility rate has dropped to below 5. In the 1960's, the fertility rate in East Asia was above 5, yet now their fertility rate is below 2.

For many of the African countries that are below the continental average, their declines only started in the mid-80's or 90's. They're essentially about 30 years behind East Asia on that time frame.

If you look at the fertility rate everywhere in the world, they're all declining. The rate of decline runs right in line with modernization of those countries. When it comes to discussing Africa, there's simply no logical reason to believe that this easily observed, well documented trend will suddenly break down and stop. Modernization, improved infant mortality rates, increased education of the female population yields significantly lower birth rates. Everywhere in the world, including Africa.

 

[58miles]

Actually we need to keep helping Africa and other poor parts of the world continue to grow.

The key to population growth control is money. Africa has had the biggest economic turnaround in human history the last 20 years and you can already see a major drop in birth rates there.

All around the world, when a nation starts to get close to being a 1st world nation, the birth rates start to hit an average of 3. The richer the nation, the lower the birth rate.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN

Prime example. in 2000, Rwanda had a birth rate of 5.6, it is now at 3.6
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=RW

Kenya was at 5.2, its now at 3.8
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=KE

Ethiopia was at 6.5...now at 4.1
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=ET

Agreed 100%, economic growth is the key to controlling birthrates.

 

[monster zero]

My favorite thing is that Europe will eventually become the leading importer of Africans. Why replace yourself when you can just become the continent of Africa yourself?