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International Politico can't make payroll because DOGE discovered and froze propaganda slush fund. NYT next.....

The better question is where is the money going that has been “saved”. Is it going back to Americans or to musks companies?

People are celebrating these “saves” yet don’t realise the money will just be used elsewhere lol and the debt will not decrease
 
8 million dollars isn't a huge amount when it comes to national spending. Just look at the scale of government spending. I am all for trimming fat but it is obvious that these cuts are retaliatory in nature. Do you really want our government to be run like this?

In this case they are attacking Politico and legacy media because they have been either impartial or unkind to Elon or Trump's cause. I am curious which service they will replace Politico with. You want teams that work on public policy to have accurate information.
I can't say if it's retaliation. But I can say that spending millions doesn't make sense. I've already said that it's the small spending idea that got us here where peeps in the govt just say yeah it's only 8M and this is just for one. Let's say it's 40M total, it's not a lot compared to the budget but if everyone thinks this way the spending will just keep going up. Not down. And we will never get to a point of balance if we take this approach.

In terms of other services... the numbers skyrocketed in the last several years. They seem to have been able to get along fine before without so much spending. I expect this to continue.
 
I can't say if it's retaliation. But I can say that spending millions doesn't make sense. I've already said that it's the small spending idea that got us here where peeps in the govt just say yeah it's only 8M and this is just for one. Let's say it's 40M total, it's not a lot compared to the budget but if everyone thinks this way the spending will just keep going up. Not down. And we will never get to a point of balance if we take this approach.

In terms of other services... the numbers skyrocketed in the last several years. They seem to have been able to get along fine before without so much spending. I expect this to continue.
You can check what this administration is trying to do to legacy news outlets. Tiktok/Twitter influencers and Breitbart are not quality news media. Our administration is pushing for these type of shit news outlets. It's not a left or right thing. Respectable conservative news outlets aren't playing ball either. Elon is calling for the firing of the Wall Street Journal reporter who exposed one of his workers for racist tweets.

Earlier this month Elon was hinting he would sue news outlets that reported on the Cybertruck explosion. Now he is trying to hurt the same news outlets by withdrawing contracts and subscriptions. The Politico subscriptions have nothing to do with USAID. This is definitely a case of retaliation.
 
You can check what this administration is trying to do to legacy news outlets. Tiktok/Twitter influencers and Breitbart are not quality news media. Our administration is pushing for these type of shit news outlets. It's not a left or right thing. Respectable conservative news outlets aren't playing ball either. Elon is calling for the firing of the Wall Street Journal reporter who exposed one of his workers for racist tweets.

Earlier this month Elon was hinting he would sue news outlets that reported on the Cybertruck explosion. Now he is trying to hurt the same news outlets by withdrawing contracts and subscriptions. The Politico subscriptions have nothing to do with USAID. This is definitely a case of retaliation.
Whatever your perspective on this.. there is no reason that in recent years, millions in tax money needs to be spent on private news media. Doesn't matter who it is...
 
Whatever your perspective on this.. there is no reason that in recent years, millions in tax money needs to be spent on private news media. Doesn't matter who it is...

Exactly. He asked will be interesting to see who it is replaced with, suggesting trump and Elon will give the funds to a friendly source.

But if they simply cut it…. Then what is there to cry about? That government employees need to rely on the press for policy decisions?

That is pretty ridiculous argument, considering a lot of these outlets create fake news and narratives based on leaks from people within the government
 
Exactly. He asked will be interesting to see who it is replaced with, suggesting trump and Elon will give the funds to a friendly source.

But if they simply cut it…. Then what is there to cry about? That government employees need to rely on the press for policy decisions?

That is pretty ridiculous argument, considering a lot of these outlets create fake news and narratives based on leaks from people within the government
It doesn't matter really fake or legit... they seem to have done fine up until a few years ago and the spending skyrocketed for whatever reason. It's time to just nix non-essential spending and to me this is one. And yeah, media bias is a reason not to rely on them to make your decisions.
 
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You can check what this administration is trying to do to legacy news outlets. Tiktok/Twitter influencers and Breitbart are not quality news media.
And legacy media is? I don't know of a "quality" news outlet that hasn't burned their credibility to the ground over the past ten years. That tabloid news show "Hard Copy" from the 90's, has more credibility than these jokers.
 
It doesn't matter really fake or legit... they seem to have done fine up until a few years ago and the spending skyrocketed for whatever reason. It's time to just nix non-essential spending and to me this is one. And yeah, media bias is a reason not to rely on them to make your decisions.

Exactly. And while I do find it funny and fairly justified to kick NYT out of the pentagon and trade their spot for breitbart and give them a WH press pass, Trump would and should get criticism if they also started giving them millions

People will try to argue that breitbart is clearly right wing, but politico is good news, blah blah. But their editors stopped bad press for Biden. Basically aleft wing version of breitbart

 
Exactly. And while I do find it funny and fairly justified to kick NYT out of the pentagon and trade their spot for breitbart and give them a WH press pass, Trump would and should get criticism if they also started giving them millions

People will try to argue that breitbart is clearly right wing, but politico is good news, blah blah. But their editors stopped bad press for Biden. Basically aleft wing version of breitbart

Agreed, if the situation was reversed and it was found that Fox news or some other group was paid millions under Trumps admin, there would be huge uproar over it. Ultimately, I dont care who they were paying... if it costs 8M for just one of several being paid.... nah... of course if a group pays out 8M to your company there is always room for corruption of that.
 
Exactly. He asked will be interesting to see who it is replaced with, suggesting trump and Elon will give the funds to a friendly source.

But if they simply cut it…. Then what is there to cry about? That government employees need to rely on the press for policy decisions?

That is pretty ridiculous argument, considering a lot of these outlets create fake news and narratives based on leaks from people within the government

Not to mention, if the other argument is that they have access to a "pro" version of the outlet which is the only place to obtain certain information, then I'm pretty sure that's an information monopoly and should be illegal.

Everyone level headed agrees that it is wasteful spending and only trolls or the deluded are trying to defend it.
 
Agreed, if the situation was reversed and it was found that Fox news or some other group was paid millions under Trumps admin, there would be huge uproar over it. Ultimately, I dont care who they were paying... if it costs 8M for just one of several being paid.... nah... of course if a group pays out 8M to your company there is always room for corruption of that.
Quality Conservative news outlets also receive contracts from the government. You can easily look this up.
 
Whatever your perspective on this.. there is no reason that in recent years, millions in tax money needs to be spent on private news media. Doesn't matter who it is...
I think you aren’t well informed on this topic. There is politico pro and there is politico. I don’t want to keep explaining it to people in this thread. Please just go look it up and understand why policy makers need this service. They at least have to replace it with something else. They still have to spend money.
 
The better question is where is the money going that has been “saved”. Is it going back to Americans or to musks companies?

People are celebrating these “saves” yet don’t realise the money will just be used elsewhere lol and the debt will not decrease
Yeah, its being funneled directly to Musk. Thats brilliant.
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I think you aren’t well informed on this topic. There is politico pro and there is politico. I don’t want to keep explaining it to people in this thread. Please just go look it up and understand why policy makers need this service. They at least have to replace it with something else. They still have to spend money.
No I understand. But look. From the USAspending.gov website for politico... the money only really started around 2020. So how did they do it before? You aren't going to convince me that all of a sudden we need to spend 8M per year per news service just to make critical government decisions.

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The better question is where is the money going that has been “saved”. Is it going back to Americans or to musks companies?

People are celebrating these “saves” yet don’t realise the money will just be used elsewhere lol and the debt will not decrease

Yeah, it’s being funneled directly to Musk. Thats brilliant.
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All of these cuts will be used to try to fund their forthcoming tax cuts for the rich. So yes, in a very real sense I think the money will get funneled right back to Musk, and Trump, and other ultra wealthy people like them, while working class Americans have programs cut that they need.
 
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