Political Betting Thread

[longway]

So which is it? The cases are falling off or we will develop herd immunity? Your arguments cancel each other out.

No they dont. As the USA approaches herd immunity the number of infections goes down until it reaches 0.

 

[longway]

I genuinely think if Trump did a halfway decent job at showing leadership during this pandemic, he could've won this election in a landslide. Should've been handed to him on a plate. Approval ratings almost always shoot up during a crisis, which is what's really ironic about some on the far right acting like the pandemic is fake and was pushed to hurt Trump's re-election. GWB's approval shot up by more than 30% after 9/11, and helped him maintain that positive approval for another 2+ years. Governors like Cuomo saw their approval shoot up 30% during this pandemic, and is still far ahead of where he started this year. Virtually any competent politician could've just done an acceptable job and send a message that we need their continued leadership to get us out of this crisis. But nope.

Trump shot up a few % and then steadily declined toward two-year lows because he fumbled it. Just like he fumbled the Puerto Rican hurricane response, but on a much wider scale. He's ridden the coattails of positive trends for so long, when it came to a real national crisis he blew it, then continued to blow another one with the BLM protests. That sends a very bad message on what could happen during another crisis, and voters realize that. Last year I thought Trump was going to lose anyway, but this whole situation is just the nail in the coffin.

Doesn't Cuomo prove that media bias has a huge influence on how the public view leadership during this crisis. The guy was a disaster, asw as de blasio, NY has the highest numbers of deaths per million to reach herd immunity, literally one of the worst in the world.

The media love war mongers. Trump has ended wars and started none of his own, the first in living memory, but he is pilloried mercilessly and endlessly, yet he always finds a way to do the right thing and win.

 

[longway]

I'm not quite sure you understand what the concept of herd immunity is...

You certainly don't. Nor is it a concept.

 

[longway]

Citing deaths as a percentage of tests is just a way to find a positive statistic to skew the narrative. It has way more variables than you're giving credit for and probably means less than you think. All it tells us here is that our hospitals are probably doing a good enough job where they can, which is certainly a good thing, but doesn't tell us much about the outlook of the virus in our country moving forward.

At the end of the day, we're still too high in deaths per million and are only recently catching up in tests per million. And we're clearly too high in cases per million, even while being behind some major countries in our testing rate. We aren't close to herd immunity and we're not even sure yet about the reinfection potential. These things could be easily communicated to a mass audience, Trump has just only been interested in picking&choosing what he thinks will make him look good, and most of they country seems to be catching on to that.

I don't know how much this specific interview will hurt him, but there's a reason he spent so long shying away from non-Fox News interviews. He looks like an idiot any time he's challenged on anything, much worse than Joe Biden and I don't think highly of Biden at all. And we're likely to get more of that as the campaign season heats up. We saw this in 2016 too, but Trump's mental acuity seems to have only gotten worse from then to now.

I'd bet most hardcore Trump supporters won't jump off the boat from these interviews, they seem to always find justifications and excuses and will just support him no matter what. The problem is Trump is already behind, and these kinds of events won't help him catch up.

I disagree with most if what you have written, but I'm glad you can muster up more than orange man bad and shriek nonsense about nazis and Russians. I got no problem with people seeing things differently, it's all a judgement call at the end.

 

[rev0lver]

Doesn't Cuomo prove that media bias has a huge influence on how the public view leadership during this crisis. The guy was a disaster, as
was de blasio, NY has the highest numbers of deaths per million to reach herd immunity, literally one of the worst in the world.

I don't think that highly of Cuomo personally, but what he displayed was competent leadership and a decent response, and that's all you need to win out politically. NYC was naturally going to be the epicenter when it was hit, they have the highest density in the country and 2/3 of their population takes public transportation. It's not about numbers that are out of your control, it's about doing what you can to slow the spread and deal with the medical needs, and Cuomo showed strong leadership on both ends. Meanwhile Trump was still downplaying the pandemic, decrying shutdowns, pushing out Fauci, and practically threatening to withhold aid to governors who weren't nice to him. I don't know what media bias needs to be had there, Trump made himself look bad and he can't keep blaming everyone else.

 

[longway]

I don't think that highly of Cuomo personally, but what he displayed was competent leadership and a decent response, and that's all you need to win out politically. NYC was naturally going to be the epicenter when it was hit, they have the highest density in the country and 2/3 of their population takes public transportation. It's not about numbers that are out of your control, it's about doing what you can to slow the spread and deal with the medical needs, and Cuomo showed strong leadership on both ends. Meanwhile Trump was still downplaying the pandemic, decrying shutdowns, pushing out Fauci, and practically threatening to withhold aid to governors who weren't nice to him. I don't know what media bias needs to be had there, Trump made himself look bad and he can't keep blaming everyone else.

Wow, we see things so differently. But i dont want to argue here, its already done to death plenty of other places.

 

[TrueAscension]

You certainly don't. Nor is it a concept.

Of course its a concept you absolute tool. For herd immunity to be an option a certain portion of the population of the United States would have to be effected and I can tell you its a lot more than 1.4 pct.

 

[TrueAscension]

No they dont. As the USA approaches herd immunity the number of infections goes down until it reaches 0.

Jesus Christ you are a moron.

 

[TrueAscension]

Wow, we see things so differently. But i dont want to argue here, its already done to death plenty of other places.

Dude its not even an argument. Cuomo took the absolute epicenter of CoVID and turned it into about 1 pct infection rate per day. The republican governors across the country that heeded Trump's advice to reopen everything hastily are the ones who are watching their states' cases shoot up. These are facts. There's no need to argue facts. Its shocking how far you have your head up your asshole

 

[longway]

Dude its not even an argument. Cuomo took the absolute epicenter of CoVID and turned it into about 1 pct infection rate per day. The republican governors across the country that heeded Trump's advice to reopen everything hastily are the ones who are watching their states' cases shoot up. These are facts. There's no need to argue facts. Its shocking how far you have your head up your asshole

You haven't a clue, and you dont have a clue that you havent a clue. What does 1ct infection rate per day even mean? And how did he have anything to do with it getting whatever that is?

 

[longway]

Jesus Christ you are a moron.

So instead of a rebuttal i get insults. Thisvis the typical victim of the media suffering from tds. You can see how the media manipulates people right here.

No ideas, no thoughts, just mindless hatred abput things he knows nothing about.

 

[longway]

Of course its a concept you absolute tool. For herd immunity to be an option a certain portion of the population of the United States would have to be effected and I can tell you its a lot more than 1.4 pct.

A concept is an abstract idea. Herd immunity is a theory. I dont know why you think only 1.4ct has been infected, but then again neither do you.

 

[TrueAscension]

A concept is an abstract idea. Herd immunity is a theory. I dont know why you think only 1.4ct has been infected, but then again neither do you.

Ok let me take you through this one point at a time. Maybe you will read it and educated yourself. If you take the total number of positive tests of coronavirus and divide it by the population of the United States, it gives you a number. That number is a percentage of the population of the United States that has tested positive for Coronavirus.

I'm trying to figure out what sort of point you're making by trying to differentiate a "concept" from a "theory" but whatever. That's just silly. The point is that the THEORY of herd immunity is that the amount of people that have had coronavirus gets so large that the immunity happens naturally. If you truly believe we are already getting to that point, then you are a moron plain and simple.

You make fun of democrats and liberals throughout this thread with insults, name-calling (wah you little bitch) but can't take it yourself.

Either way one thing that is really hilarious about your stupid, long-winded absolutely moronic posts is that you do not answer any of the arguments so let me make them clear for you.

1. We are nowhere near herd immunity. This is a fact.
2. Cuomo and his policies have greatly reduced the amount of CoVID cases throughout NYC and surrounding cities in the state of NY. Fact.
3. Governors from republican states that Trump has encouraged to have open up their states have let cases rise exponentially. Fact.
4. Yes, You are a moron. I really hope you keep "adding units" to Trump. At this point I'm not quite sure you even know what units are since you've apparently dropped so many on Trump to win an election. Also, what on earth are you doing in an MMA betting forum.. do you even watch fights or do you just troll every board you can find with your somewhat clever but mostly recycled bullshit?

 

[rille31]

I'm not quite sure you understand what the concept of herd immunity is...

The entire concept of herd immunity is that once it’s reached cases rapidly go down because less people are able to spread the virus.

Here in Sweden where we had little to no shutdown death's went from 150-200/day to around 5 for the past week.

 

[TrueAscension]

The entire concept of herd immunity is that once it’s reached cases rapidly go down because less people are able to spread the virus.

Here in Sweden where we had little to no shutdown death's went from 150-200/day to around 5 for the past week.

Right but 1.4 pct of the population is nowhere near a level where that is possible. You understand this right? Also, I wish we were a lot more like Sweden right now. Glad you're safe and sound. I had CoVID. That shit sucked.

 

[rille31]

Right but 1.4 pct of the population is nowhere near a level where that is possible. You understand this right? Also, I wish we were a lot more like Sweden right now. Glad you're safe and sound. I had CoVID. That shit sucked.

Also had the rona, had mild flue like symptoms back in april and my anti-body test I did last week came back positive.
We are doing free anti-body tests on a large scale right now, it will be interesting see where we at percentage wise.

 

[longway]

Ok let me take you through this one point at a time. Maybe you will read it and educated yourself. If you take the total number of positive tests of coronavirus and divide it by the population of the United States, it gives you a number. That number is a percentage of the population of the United States that has tested positive for Coronavirus.

Wtf. The amount of stupid in these few lines staggering. If you don't know how stupid using this metric is to calculate how many people have caught covid, there is no point in me wasting my time trying to explain to you why it's stupid, as you are too stupid to understand.

I'm trying to figure out what sort of point you're making by trying to differentiate a "concept" from a "theory" but whatever. That's just silly. The point is that the THEORY of herd immunity is that the amount of people that have had coronavirus gets so large that the immunity happens naturally.

It was bc you have no idea what you are talking about. You are completely ignorant on this topic.

You make fun of democrats and liberals throughout this thread with insults, name-calling (wah you little bitch) but can't take it yourself.

Wat? I have not insulted anyone on this thread, except you in this post. I generally make fun of dnc politicians, but I don'tinsult posters. And how is it I can't take it?

 

[longway]

2. Cuomo and his policies have greatly reduced the amount of CoVID cases throughout NYC and surrounding cities in the state of NY. Fact.
3. Governors from republican states that Trump has encouraged to have open up their states have let cases rise exponentially. Fact.
4. Yes, You are a moron. I really hope you keep "adding units" to Trump. At this point I'm not quite sure you even know what units are since you've apparently dropped so many on Trump to win an election. Also, what on earth are you doing in an MMA betting forum.. do you even watch fights or do you just troll every board you can find with your somewhat clever but mostly recycled bullshit?

2. Can you tell what policy has achieved this?

3. The fact is that you don't know what exponential means. The number of infections are declining or flattening.

4. I think you need to stop watching cnn and thinking about me. Go for a walk, lick a window or something.

 

[Papi]

Someone is triggered lol

 

[Kamais_Ookin]

Someone is triggered lol

Tensions can get high when a buffoon like Biden is potentially president-bound very soon.