NBA Playoffs thread - Scientists unite

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You are probably right, but there are circumstances you might not take account of, like how many years people have had to learn to hate him lol. Or maybe you aren't taking into account that Jordan probably has the largest fan base in basketball history, he was a worldwide phenom. The very moment LeBron said he was the GOAT, every Jordan fan on the planet turned against him. I personally know several people that say they had no problem with LeBron until he started saying he was the GOAT. My point being, there are reasons why a lot of people don't like this guy. Some even believe he has done more to harm basketball than any player in history and yes, there are plenty of videos detailing the reasons.
To your point, being a player that fans think is cool is really meaningless if you want to objectively evaluate skill. LeBald is every bit as good or possibly better than Jordan but subjectively he is not the most likeable. And you see it all over the internet and in these threads. People spamming Jordan praise or LeBron praise or Curry praise. Likeability does not equal greatness. Curry can be more likeable than LeBron, sure, but to suggest he's as good or better than LeBron is borderline insanity. Can't get caught up in favoritism if you want to have a real discussion.
 
I hope the strip clubs in Denver are treating James Harden well. Harden’s hedonistic lifestyle has held him back. Can’t party Hardy and win like my main man Dennis Rodman.

 
LeBald is every bit as good or possibly better than Jordan

There isn't a single area of this beautiful game where LeBrick matches Jordan.

In fact, MJ's likely a better shooter with his eyes closed than LeBrick is with his eyes open.




Maybe if MJ was locked up by JJ Barea we could have this discussion though.

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Curry vs LeBrick is a more interesting discussion but Curry still gets the edge via not blaming his losses on his teammates banging his mom.

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There isn't a single area of this beautiful game where LeBrick matches Jordan.

In fact, MJ's likely a better shooter with his eyes closed than LeBrick is with his eyes open.




Maybe if MJ was locked up by JJ Barea we could have this discussion though.

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Curry vs LeBrick is a more interesting discussion but Curry still gets the edge via not blaming his losses on his teammates banging his mom.

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MJ is definitely a better shooter. LeBron is a superior overall scorer though and his athleticism allowed him to excel in other areas that Jordan could not. I "like Mike" better, but I would probably take LeBron in an all time NBA draft.
 
MJ is definitely a better shooter. LeBron is a superior overall scorer though and his athleticism allowed him to excel in other areas that Jordan could not. I "like Mike" better, but I would probably take LeBron in an all time NBA draft.

Scoring titles:

MJ: 10
LeBrick: 1

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You're absolute comedy. Don't even get me started on defense.

MJ excels in whatever area he wants. His job was to win chips though, not stay in the league long enough to set longevity records, including over 5000 turnovers, while team hopping all over the place.

If you're drafting to win, you draft MJ. If you're drafting for ESPN then you draft LeBrick.
 
Scoring titles:

MJ: 10
LeBrick: 1

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You're absolute comedy. Don't even get me started on defense.

MJ excels in whatever area he wants. His job was to win chips though, not stay in the league long enough to set longevity records, including over 5000 turnovers.

If you're drafting to win, you draft MJ. If you're drafting for ESPN then you draft LeBrick.
No need to be incredulous.

LeBald was a complete package and was a proven commodity to carry teams that had no business going as deep as they did. The greatest individual run in NBA playoff history was LeBron carrying a 16-win Cavs team to an NBA title that beat a 73-9 team. He led both (both) teams in points, rebounds, assists, steals and blocks. That is absolutely unheard of. I can't say definitively who is better between LeBron and Jordan. It's all speculation. But I would take LeBron. To suggest one or the other doesn't belong in the same conversation with one another in absurd though. Both are world beaters.
 
No need to be incredulous.

LeBald was a complete package and was a proven commodity to carry teams that had no business going as deep as they did. The greatest individual run in NBA playoff history was LeBron carrying a 16-win Cavs team to an NBA title that beat a 73-9 team. He led both (both) teams in points, rebounds, assists, steals and blocks. That is absolutely unheard of. I can't say definitively who is better between LeBron and Jordan. It's all speculation. But I would take LeBron. To suggest one or the other doesn't belong in the same conversation with one another in absurd though. Both are world beaters.

Rocky wants everyone to know that the Cavs were a 16-win team in 2015-16 and LeBrick wasn't playing with Kyrie, Love etc.

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Kyrie averaged 27 ppg in the Finals son, which is more than any player MJ ever played with. Kyrie also hit the championship winning shot because lord knows LeBrick isn't hitting any of those.

MJ had two 3-peats with six FMVPs, has the highest scoring average in history etc. Oh and he also actually consistently played championship level defense and won DPOY.

There's absolutely no scenario where any rational person would take LeBrick over MJ if your goal is to win.
 
Rocky wants everyone to know that the Cavs were a 16-win team in 2015-16 and LeBrick wasn't playing with Kyrie, Love etc.

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Kyrie averaged 27 ppg in the Finals son, which is more than any player MJ ever played with. Kyrie also hit the championship winning shot because lord knows LeBrick isn't hitting any of those.

MJ had two 3-peats with six FMVPs, has the highest scoring average in history etc. Oh and he also actually consistently played championship level defense and won DPOY.

There's absolutely no scenario where any rational person would take LeBrick over MJ if your goal is to win.
If you think the 2016 Cavs could even make the playoffs without LeBron then that's on you I guess. Basketball is a team sport, after all. If we're gonna count rings then we gotta give Robert Horry his due since he's obviously the GOAT, but Jordan never carried any team to any title. He played a major role in six championships. LeBron played a major role in 4 years of his career, 2-of-4 resulted in titles, and he carried squads to relevancy for 16+. Jordan can be the more accomplished player at the end of the day but if we want to evaluate raw skill and talent I'd personally give it to LeBald.
 
If you think the 2016 Cavs could even make the playoffs without LeBron then that's on you I guess. Basketball is a team sport, after all. If we're gonna count rings then we gotta give Robert Horry his due since he's obviously the GOAT, but Jordan never carried any team to any title. He played a major role in six championships. LeBron played a major role in 4 years of his career, 2-of-4 resulted in titles, and he carried squads to relevancy for 16+. Jordan can be the more accomplished player at the end of the day but if we want to evaluate raw skill and talent I'd personally give it to LeBald.

Robert Horry was never the Finals MVP, was he?

The hilarious thing about the 2016 chip is you dorks claim that LeBrick and Kyrie are both better than Curry. So the 2016 Cavs had the two best players of the series, the Warriors are cans, and the Cavs barely won? That's your argument for LeBrick's greatest chip?

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Skill and talent easily go to MJ. But I mean you can listen to someone who played against both and won a chip with LeBrick:

 
Robert Horry was never the Finals MVP, was he?

The hilarious thing about the 2016 chip is you dorks claim that LeBrick and Kyrie are both better than Curry. So the 2016 Cavs had the two best players of the series, the Warriors are cans, and the Cavs barely won? That's your argument?

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Skill and talent easily go to MJ. But I mean you can listen to someone who played against both and won a chip with LeBrick:


I don't know why you're lumping me in with what other people have said.

LeBron is objectively better than Curry and I don't see how anyone can say Curry is better unless you implement favoritism. If KD hadn't joined their supersquad and won back to back Finals MVPs we might be looking at a LeBron 3-peat there, but the super team reigned supreme. Curry was pretty much carried throughout those Finals runs. Durant is better than Curry. He won a title and Finals MVP every year he was in that super team. Lol
 
I don't know why you're lumping me in with what other people have said.

LeBron is objectively better than Curry and I don't see how anyone can say Curry is better unless you implement favoritism. If KD hadn't joined their supersquad and won back to back Finals MVPs we might be looking at a LeBron 3-peat there, but the super team reigned supreme. Curry was pretty much carried throughout those Finals runs. Durant is better than Curry. He won a title every year he was in that super team. Lol

Good to see you've accepted reality and now turned to Curry vs LeBrick.

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I have to ask though, why do you keep lying about everything?

LeBron is a superior overall scorer

Obvious lie.

a 16-win Cavs team to an NBA title that beat a 73-9 team.

Obvious lie.

Durant won a title and Finals MVP every year he was in that super team. Lol

Obvious lie.

Chef won titles before and after KD. KD's done nothing but get his ass kicked on super teams without Curry. There's a reason why Chef drew virtually all of the double teams.

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