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So after the chase down foul on Caruso that was reviewed, the announcers were debating whether it was a flagrant or not and Burke said there was no play on the ball and then rules analyst Steve javy came in and said that making a play on the ball is not one of the criteria for a flagrant foul. And sure enough when they announced that it was a common foul they went down the checklist of the 3 areas of criteria and determined it only met 1 of the 3.
Is this new? I could of sworn the whole thing was subjective and that there wasn’t a direct rule that says it must meet 2 of 3 criteria?
Also I was always under the impression that making a play on the ball was taken into consideration. So I just googled the nba’s rule book on what criteria is considered for flagrant fouls and found this source from 2023 (not sure if it has changed since then) but sure enough #2 is whether it was a legit basketball play :
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1. The severity of the contact
2. Whether or not the player was making a legitimate basketball play (e.g., whether a player is making a legitimate effort to block a shot; note, however, that a foul committed during a block attempt can still be considered flagrant if other criteria are present, such as recklessness and hard contact to the head)
3. Whether, on a foul committed with a player’s arm or hand, the fouling player wound up and/or followed through after making contact
4. The potential for injury resulting from contact (e.g., a blow to the head and a foul committed while a player is in a vulnerable position)
5. The severity of any injury suffered by the offended player
6. The outcome of the contact (e.g., whether it led to an altercation).”
Personally I think the criteria listed above should just be viewed as general guidance and not some rigid 2/3 type bs since it’s all subjective anyways. But since when did not making a play on the ball get removed from the nba rule books?
Is this new? I could of sworn the whole thing was subjective and that there wasn’t a direct rule that says it must meet 2 of 3 criteria?
Also I was always under the impression that making a play on the ball was taken into consideration. So I just googled the nba’s rule book on what criteria is considered for flagrant fouls and found this source from 2023 (not sure if it has changed since then) but sure enough #2 is whether it was a legit basketball play :
“
1. The severity of the contact
2. Whether or not the player was making a legitimate basketball play (e.g., whether a player is making a legitimate effort to block a shot; note, however, that a foul committed during a block attempt can still be considered flagrant if other criteria are present, such as recklessness and hard contact to the head)
3. Whether, on a foul committed with a player’s arm or hand, the fouling player wound up and/or followed through after making contact
4. The potential for injury resulting from contact (e.g., a blow to the head and a foul committed while a player is in a vulnerable position)
5. The severity of any injury suffered by the offended player
6. The outcome of the contact (e.g., whether it led to an altercation).”
Personally I think the criteria listed above should just be viewed as general guidance and not some rigid 2/3 type bs since it’s all subjective anyways. But since when did not making a play on the ball get removed from the nba rule books?
