Picard or Discovery

I heard in Picard he finally dicks down Beverly and they actually show it.

They were likely having discreet sex on TNG. Roddenberry wanted them all to have sex and to show it on tv. One of his many pitches for the Motion Picture was to open with Kirk engaging in sumptuous love making in an exotic ocean.
 
3 eps into each. Picard is decent but a little slow. Discovery is basically the black/LGBTQ star TREK.

saw on line to just skim/skip to season 3 I did and every important character is either Black , gay, or different species.

Will keep watching Picard but I'm done with Discovery. It's 1 thing to be ultra WOKE but if you are you also got to really good this is mega woke n mega terrible.
 
Star Trek died when Voyager ended, everything after that has been a disgrace.
 
Neither are very good. But Discovery sucks cabdriverfeet.. Female space jesus that has 2 facial expressions. I´m about to cry. I am about to take a shit. Acting is horrible. Script even worse. Discovery is just plain shit on so many levels.

Picard has some redeeming qualities. Borg, Riker, 7 of 9 still looks surprisingly good.
 
At least Picard is trying to reach for something. Not saying it reaches it but at least it tries.
Bringing in the Borg , Riker, and Jeri has made it watchable. Where as Discovery os one of the worst series and most over hyped ever.

Discovery gets high RT ratings just due to all the ultra woke boxes checked.
 
Bringing in the Borg , Riker, and Jeri has made it watchable. Where as Discovery os one of the worst series and most over hyped ever.

Discovery gets high RT ratings just due to all the ultra woke boxes checked.

I can only understand it as an indictment of the younger generation
 
I can only understand it as an indictment of the younger generation
When the central part of the entire series is to support BLM and LBGT wokeness...... It likely isn't going to be good.

I honest am okay with woke shows as most are now as long as they are done well. Getting tbe black chick from TWD who yeah was cute but couldn't act a lick was dumb. At least get the one from US or BP. A show that could have been great as I like the faaaar future arc ends up a steaming pile of shit. Also limiting the future of ST if this remains cannon. Apparently there's like only 300 years left to play with untill some "burn" explodes all warp cores or something........
 
Which of these is better to watch if you haven't watched Star Trek for a while. Heard Picard is a little woke but unlike other Star Trek shows is pretty graphic. Discovery is like a modernized continuation of the franchise. If you have watched both or some of both which would be the better one to binge?
I liked Discovery until they got the 2 trannys and then made Stacy Abrams President of the Federation.

They make it seem like gay or tranny is the norm when it is literally not the norm in the real world. Very few straight men on this show.

My vote:

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I liked Discovery until they got the 2 trannys and then made Stacy Abrams President of the Federation.

They make it seem like gay or tranny is the norm when it is literally not the norm in the real world. Very few straight men on this show.

My vote:

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I gave up on both . Those 2 are literally the 2 most over woke shows I have ever seen. I can stomach some woke but FFS not that much.

Is Riker the biggest woke progressive liberal in Hollywood history? If not I would hate to see worse.
 
I'd say Discovery over all, which is weird, because I love the character of Picard. The problem with both, though, is that it is written by, and probably for, people who fundamentally hold the core philosophy of previous Star Trek in utter contempt. They're both philosophical re-imaginings of the show away from the Enlightenment values which were the core of Star Trek's message up to the end of Voyager, and towards a more post colonial view of humanity's vision in space. They're fine enough TV but, man, it's a bit like doing a dark and gritty revisit of a funny, lighthearted sitcom like The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air - so off the expected message and tone that one has to wonder why someone would throw something like that at an audience which grew up with the original.

Again, they're both fine enough TV, but they feel like skinsuits of Star Trek rather than Star Trek, and they're not really what I signed up for. At this point they've dropped pretty low on my "to watch" priority, and I've been a Star Trek fan for decades. Don't really have a problem with that - just how I look at the state of Star Trek. I love the old stuff and if this is new Trek, that's enough for me.
 
They're both awful, and you would be doing yourself a solid to steer clear as widely as possible of either.
 
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