Team Ramen here. The pho soup base is too thin and watery for me.
It depends on where you get it. Some pho's have heavy broths but nothing like Vietnamese beef stew.
I like both.... really good Pho is better than really good Ramen . Just it's tough to find great pho.. most places seem to be noodles, meat, veggies in colored hot water with no taste. There's Ramen joints on every corner here so it's easy gettibg good ones.
In my experience in the West, phos are better on average than ramen. But a very good ramen shits over the best pho. But both are goat soups imo.
I was never in Japan but there is a very known japanese neighborhood in Paris where they have a couple of likely quite authentic Japanese soup parlors. One of them has only Japanese staff that speak Japanese with eachother and have a huge Japanese accent in French. You typically have to wait in line on the street to get in. Anyways what I had there is in line with your description and let me tell you big bro that it's quite simply on another level. And I say this as a dude who has eaten an absurd volume of pho in his life.Pretty much this. In the U.S., most Vietnamese restaurants are mom and pop shops and the pho is authentic and much better than the average ramen, which is appropriated white people food and more often that not, is made with instant noodles and dishwater broth as a side dish to some asian themed bullshit.
But legit quality ramen loaded with vegetables, pork belly and pork bone broth soup is GOAT tier.
I was never in Japan but there is a very known japanese neighborhood in Paris where they have a couple of likely quite authentic Japanese soup parlors. One of them has only Japanese staff that speak Japanese with eachother and have a huge Japanese accent in French. You typically have to wait in line on the street to get in. Anyways what I had there is in line with your description and let me tell you big bro that it's quite simply on another level. And I say this as a dude who has eaten an absurd volume of pho in his life.