Pescetarian Diet - Anyone do this long term??

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  1. Apocalypse604

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    I have been on this seafood and veggie diet for about 10 weeks now, and its been great so far. Feel more energetic and losing excess fat a lot easier. Just wanted to know if anyone has been or is currently on this diet for over a year, and if so, feedback on how its working for you?
     
  2. Bekim

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    Yeah my Mercury and Cadmium levels are through the roof......o_O

    On a serious note......please be careful as to the source of your sea food.

    It is your primary source of protein.......?
     
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    Lame fad diet is lame.
     
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    A number of years ago I ate like that, only eating tuna and salmon. I have a Gi condition and the condition improved greatly on the diet. About my only complaint is I felt starved all the time for some reason when I ate that way.

    I know there is a good amount of concern with the mercury found in fish, and rightly so. I have seen some write that fishs' high selenium content is able to help over come the high mercury. Don't know if correct, but if interested in reading on that.

    Are there 9.6 Billion Reasons We Should Fear Mercury in Fish?

    http://robbwolf.com/2013/06/06/9-6-billion-reasons-fear-mercury-fish/
     
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    I've been pretty strict pescatarian for over ten years.

    Works great for me.
     
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    bubulae-tarian here. No complaints.
     
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    Do you wear a hat? And is your hair white........ best friend a door mouse?
     
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    I wish I understood the reference :(
    Edit: mad hatter cuz mercury?
     
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    One of the areas I do research in is fish contaminant uptake. Generally mercury toxicity concerns with fish are way overblown.

    We have good reason to think high dietary selenium protects against mercury toxicity IIRC because mercury is harmful at selenium binding sites. Most open ocean fish regularly consumed have higher selenium levels then mercury with the exception of shark, swordfish, marlin, whale etc.

    Even if that wasnt the case beef can have almost the same mercury levels as some commonly eaten fish like salmon.

    The FDA limit of 1 ppm for human consumption was set with a safety margin in mind, and the only fish reaching that are swordfish, tilefish, shark, and the rare large tuna.

    Meanwhile canned tuna is on average 0.17 for chunk light and something like 0.32 for chunk white. Canned sardines, salmon, etc. are about negligible.

    Here in Hawaii many of us fresh ahi almost every day. The fish made into poke or whatever are usually large yellowfin or bigeye, higher mercury species but also high in selenium. And you don't hear about people needing to be chelated for Hg poisoning here.

    I started this post saying concerns are 'generally' overblown. If you live near a polluted lake, you could probably dick yourself up eating Walleye every day is an example of an exception.
     
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    It's a joke and if you think selenium will protect you, just carry on the heavy sea food diet.

    In the end it is your choice..........

    I worked in Hg industry for 10 years......have you heard of methylmercury? I am pretty sure it can cross the blood brain barrier, before you talk yourself into reassurance please read up a bit more on the subject.
     
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    What is the 'mercury industry' you work in??

    As I said, I study fish contamination as a career. I didn't just read a couple of livestrong articles. I did present some facts and can provide sources for everything I said on the subject, do you have any facts to provide our just fearmongering?

    I don't need to reassure myself, I've been living it for over a decade as have many here in Hawaii and in Japan and the Mediterranean.

    Out of curiosity if methylmercury is so toxic do you ever wonder why in studies pescatarians have the lowest all cause mortality and fish consumption is associated with reduced risk of heart disease and stroke? It's almost like the benefits outweigh the risks or something.

    http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/3/516s.full
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0091743598904728
     
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    ^^ I have been saying this for roughly 8-10 years now and nobody believed me, even with the studies i showed. Thank you for this post. Nice to have someone who studies it directly confirm this.

    I can't recall specifically how the mechanism works, mind summing it up at all?
     
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    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20561558

    " It is now understood that MeHg is a highly specific, irreversible inhibitor of Se-dependent enzymes (selenoenzymes). Selenoenzymes are required to prevent and reverse oxidative damage throughout the body, particularly in the brain and neuroendocrine tissues. Inhibition of selenoenzyme activities in these vulnerable tissues appears to be the proximal cause of the pathological effects known to accompany MeHg toxicity. Because Hg's binding affinities for Se are up to a million times higher than for sulfur, its second-best binding partner, MeHg inexorably sequesters Se, directly impairing selenoenzyme activities and their synthesis"

    if I had kids I'd still limit their large tuna consumption, but the risk for most fish out there is overblown
     
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    I worked in the recycling and reclamation industry. The people that help stop that stuff getting into your food supply and no I was not scare mongering.

    I will continue to walk the line that shows caution regarding mercury in all forms and until you can show me definitive proof that it is as safe as you claim, duck and cover.

     
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    Take my opinion for what it is (just an observation) but a friend of mine is an extremely intelligent vegan who wants to make a documentary and is pretty educated but he always tells me that the blue zone nations (places where people live the longest average life) mainly eat a vegetarian diet and he credits this to their long life. Now i dont want to derail this thread with veganism because thats not my point but i did do a little bit of reading after he told me and some things stood out to me

    1) inhabitants of blue zone nations tend to socialize alot (kinda thought being a hermit would be bad for your health)

    2) They moderately drink (i believe this means 1-4 drinks a week)

    3) They are mainly coastal nations and tend to consume a moderate amount of FISH.

    I'm my honest opinion i think the fact that these people eat fish on the regular contributes greatly to their health and longevity and to me this whole mercury thing just doesn't seem to effect these people the way i have read online.
     
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    Ocean size, what's your opinion on the heavily farmed Basa fish (Pangasius bocourti) in the Mekong region ( I know it is a fresh water fish).
     
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    I don't mess with Asia farmed fish. I don't eat farmed fish in general although theoretically herbivorous fish can environmentally be the best ones to raise, but Basa is raised hyperintensively now in ponds where waste sludge being dumped causes problems, and high antibiotic use.
    I also find it has a very noticeable texture, mouthful and taste and I don't care for it. Which is weird because I've never said that about another fish.
     
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    Pangasius shipments get rejected from the EU due to presence of antibiotics banned in Vietnam...

    Checkout seafoodwatch.org they have an 80 page pdf report on Pangasius with the good bad and ugly
     
  20. Bekim

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    Thank you.
     
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