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People that dissapear from the mat

I think it's a combination of several factors starting with age.
Kids that train at an early age tend to stick with it longer than adults 25+ that are learning everything from scratch.
It does take a lot commitment, focus, and enthusiasm to keep yourself pushing through, but anything is possible if you dedicate 100%
You might even have to take the Jon Fitch MMA route by living at the gym.
Meaning leave everything at home behind and become comfortable sleeping on the cold stiff mats every night.
 
There seems to be this idea that a lot of quitters are big strong noobs who get tapped by smaller skinny guys.

IMO, TONS of smaller skinny weak guys show up and try a few classes, and then disappear.
Maybe they saw Royce beating bigger guys, maybe they don't know how hard training is, and for them to show results in rolling will take a lot longer than the big strong guys.
I am one of the weak guys. It's not easy in the beginning, and even after 6 months of training, some new muscleman can show up for his first class and be impossible to sweep or submit.
So I think most of the quitters are weaker, unathletic guys and that the 'team' ends up being mostly stronger athletic guys. It comes about naturally.
At my school guys are pretty supportive, so we do have a few wimps who hung in there, a couple of old guys, and also a couple of junior high kids. For some reason the instructor doesn't separate the classes and everyone trains together.
 
There seems to be this idea that a lot of quitters are big strong noobs who get tapped by smaller skinny guys.

IMO, TONS of smaller skinny weak guys show up and try a few classes, and then disappear.
Maybe they saw Royce beating bigger guys, maybe they don't know how hard training is, and for them to show results in rolling will take a lot longer than the big strong guys.
I am one of the weak guys. It's not easy in the beginning, and even after 6 months of training, some new muscleman can show up for his first class and be impossible to sweep or submit.
So I think most of the quitters are weaker, unathletic guys and that the 'team' ends up being mostly stronger athletic guys. It comes about naturally.
At my school guys are pretty supportive, so we do have a few wimps who hung in there, a couple of old guys, and also a couple of junior high kids. For some reason the instructor doesn't separate the classes and everyone trains together.


Also think about the guys who haven't done any meaningful exercise since their freshman gym class in HS. They forgot what physical exercise even is. Which adds to the shock of BJJ
 
It was. We open up today. I'm gonna try to get in two more days of practice and then do that nogi open tournament this Sunday. Gonna kick up my tournament game in the last quarter.

Oh nice man. Kick some @$$. Hope your last quarter is a good one, and that your investors appreciate your quarterly earnings and P/E ratio.
 
I think you guys are over emphasising the demands of BJJ.

People quiting after a short time is something that occurs in every sport, maybe even any kind of hobby. People decide to try something out, give it a go for a few weeks (sometimes more, sometimes less) and then decide it isn't for them. Or, as others have said, life circumstances change and other things become more important.

Doesn't necessarily mean they found it too hard, or they are a wimp (although this can sometimes be the case). They may not have liked the activity for any number of reasons, probably chief amongst them that the reality didn't mesh with their expectations.

In my first year of university I joined a heap of clubs that I thought sounded interesting. Everything from martial arts, to politics and gaming. Went to a few events run by each club, but only ended up sticking with Judo because I enjoyed it the most. I hardly quit the other clubs because they were too physically demanding. Rather, I stopped going because I didn't really like the activities or the people, couldn't afford it, or it conflicted with my classes.

In any club, regardless of its purpose, you are always going to get a lot of new people that join up but don't stick around. Just the nature of the beast.
 
There are a myriad of reasons why some people stop coming. Everything from bills, health, life changing events and just plain weak mindedness. Most guys that come in from a different grappling art such like wrestling or Judo tend to stay with BJJ. Hell some of them even stay true to the original art but continue BJJ to enhance what they already do.
 
I haven't trained BJJ/Muay Thai in a few monthes in order to get some financial things taken care of. I'm 19 and let me tell you now that I pay my own bills things are a lot different thankfully I'll be back to training next month.
 
This is why I dont usually commit peoples names to memory until they either get their Blue, or have trained for a minimum of 1 year, whichever comes first.

Too many people come and go...
 
Also people are naturally lazy. Can't tell you how many times I have to kcik my own butt out of my apt to go to BJJ or the gym. And I live maybe 15mins away from my gyms, I mean 15 mins by foot!
 
This is why I dont usually commit peoples names to memory until they either get their Blue, or have trained for a minimum of 1 year, whichever comes first.

Too many people come and go...

ya, no need to treat ppl like human beings, why waste all that valuable space in your brain for name recollection when they are a measly white belt scum bag who prob wont come back.
 
I have braugh to friends to BJJ after a week for the first one and after the first day for the other one they both quit. The reason was which I find is a common reason is "Grappling is gay, I don't want to hug and roll all over another sweaty dude"
 
I think you guys are over emphasising the demands of BJJ.

People quiting after a short time is something that occurs in every sport, maybe even any kind of hobby. People decide to try something out, give it a go for a few weeks (sometimes more, sometimes less) and then decide it isn't for them. Or, as others have said, life circumstances change and other things become more important.

Doesn't necessarily mean they found it too hard, or they are a wimp (although this can sometimes be the case). They may not have liked the activity for any number of reasons, probably chief amongst them that the reality didn't mesh with their expectations.

In my first year of university I joined a heap of clubs that I thought sounded interesting. Everything from martial arts, to politics and gaming. Went to a few events run by each club, but only ended up sticking with Judo because I enjoyed it the most. I hardly quit the other clubs because they were too physically demanding. Rather, I stopped going because I didn't really like the activities or the people, couldn't afford it, or it conflicted with my classes.

In any club, regardless of its purpose, you are always going to get a lot of new people that join up but don't stick around. Just the nature of the beast.

best post in the thread....truth
 
This is why I dont usually commit peoples names to memory until they either get their Blue, or have trained for a minimum of 1 year, whichever comes first.

Too many people come and go...

ah, no wonder why most people in my school does not remember my name eventhough I've introduced myself to them a couple of times coz they may have the same mentality as you do :), and most of them won't even roll with me during sparring time, the only good thing is my instructor knows my name from day 1.
 
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There are a myriad of reasons why some people stop coming. Everything from bills, health, life changing events and just plain weak mindedness. Most guys that come in from a different grappling art such like wrestling or Judo tend to stay with BJJ. Hell some of them even stay true to the original art but continue BJJ to enhance what they already do.

I had been doing Judo for several months before I went to my Judo buddy's BJJ club, I liked it alot so I decided to practice both. I consider myself a Judoka at heart, but my Judo gives me an edge when I compete in BJJ, and the newazw skills I learned in BJJ help me during Judo matches.

As for why people quit, most guys have too much ego for combat sports, instead of telling themselves I need to work harder, they say "this sucks", "this is gay", and "I can't get the techniques to work so it must not work at all". Combat sports just arent for everyone.
 
ya, no need to treat ppl like human beings, why waste all that valuable space in your brain for name recollection when they are a measly white belt scum bag who prob wont come back.

Just to clarify for my gym:

Everyone at my gym is generally well welcomed. We are pretty tight knit, but it takes equal time and effort from the new guy and the older members to all feel comfortable. For instance, team get togethers, open mat training sessions on early weekends. These are all bonding things that happen not at practice. You cant make someone attend these things, now can you? They have to want to be treated as close friends, rather than acquaintances, just as much as we have to want to make them feel like family. It honestly doesnt require much effort, as there has been a large influx of students in the last 6months. Our Team facebook page shows this quite well.


Now as for my own reasons for not remembering everyone's name; its simple, I dont have enough brain capacity.

I am training to reach the highest levels of the sport. I have a core group of training partners that get together and help improve each other's games as a unit.Its going very well, and I believe we can all achieve our individual goals, which in turn helps reach goals we have set as an overall team.

(This is not to say everyone does not help, because ever member does contribute, from the newest whitebelt, to the Instructors.)

If you have enough brain capacity to remember everyone you encounter, then good for you. I must fill up too much of mine with trying to be the best I can be....and porn.
 
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