People actually criticize Jones’ record and ignore Aspinall’s weak competition?

mkess101 said:
Derp.

Patrick Cote tearing his ACL vs Anderson Silva wasn't a fluke injury! Silva feinted and Cote moved in reaction and that tore his knee. Totally legit TKO! It was Silva's action that caused the injury!

Some real brilliant minds around this place LMFAO.
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They mental gymnastics you have to do try and conflate those 2 situations as the same thing. Man.
One guy took a step and his ACL blew out without anyone touching him. It happens. Just took a wrong step.
Another guy got punched in the face and because he got punched in the face he fell awkwardly and injured his knee.

Riddle be this Batman: had Blades not punched Tom in the face do you think he still injures his leg?
 
USA!USA! said:
learn to separate the fighter from the person
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This is not possible in his case.

His personality "flaws" has affected the sport in a very public fashion.

Cards moved, Opponent changes, Stripped titles, Snitching etc etc
 
Bend NvR Break said:
Riddle be this Batman: had Blades not punched Tom in the face do you think he still injures his leg?
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It was probably going to happen sooner or later anyway, but if Jones lost like that for sure none of y;all would count that as a real loss.

Dana would try to find a way to get that result thrown out in that case.
 
HHJ said:
It was probably going to happen sooner or later anyway, but if Jones lost like that for sure none of y;all would count that as a real loss.

Dana would try to find a way to get that result thrown out in that case.
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Dana would probably do something crazy like try and rematch them.

Oh.
 
markg171 said:
Dana would probably do something crazy like try and rematch them.

Oh.
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Dana would try to find a way to get that result thrown out in that case.

Since he cares so much about Jones being p4p #1 and actually has admitted trying to get his Dq loss to Hamill overturned.
 
HHJ said:
Dana would try to find a way to get that result thrown out in that case.

Since he cares so much about Jones being p4p #1 and actually has admitted trying to get his Dq loss to Hamill overturned.
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I don't think Aspinal should be crowned as a totally prooven GOAT level HW BUT he is VERY clearly the best form HW currently in the UFC and Jones should obviously have been fighting him.
 
HHJ said:
It was probably going to happen sooner or later anyway, but if Jones lost like that for sure none of y;all would count that as a real loss.

Dana would try to find a way to get that result thrown out in that case.
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I would consider it a loss. A decisive one actually.
 
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Aspinall is fighting whoever they put in front of him, what else do you want him to do?

Jones is ducking him.
 
markg171 said:
Tom "got injured" getting countered and dropped by Blaydes.

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Not a freak injury at all and no different than Francis/Cain. Shit happens when you get caught badly out of position. Bisping was literally telling Tom right before this to stop being so reckless as Blaydes keeps catching him badly. Tom was running into shit all fight and goes and does it again and rightfully gets finished.

Unfortunate end, but that's a legitimate finish. Good for him for coming back and avenging it, but he lost that first fight.
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Laughable

Clown show
 
Mohawk Banditó said:
He got dropped from a pushing strike, not an impactful one. You're right that his aggression is why he couldn't step back but you're acting like he got rocked while on one leg. He just got pushed when he couldn't extend

You're also full of shit thinking "Blaydes was catching him badly" or that Tom was 'running into shit all fight." Neither of those things are true. If you watch the fight, almost nothing of consequence lands at all


Oh, never take Mark seriously. That's a mistake people should only make once
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I’ve been laughing at Mark’s stupidity on here for years

He often has bizarre takes
 
mkess101 said:
The fact you'd compare how those punches landed and even more laughably the end result of each tells me all I need to know. You're not serious about any of this, you're a clown. Or you literally know nothing about fighting at all. Either way you're just embarrassing yourself.
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Is Mark getting the attention he is clearly so desperate for? That’s the real question
 
Bend NvR Break said:
They mental gymnastics you have to do try and conflate those 2 situations as the same thing. Man.
One guy took a step and his ACL blew out without anyone touching him. It happens. Just took a wrong step.
Another guy got punched in the face and because he got punched in the face he fell awkwardly and injured his knee.

Riddle be this Batman: had Blades not punched Tom in the face do you think he still injures his leg?
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Yes, as it was obviously a preexisting problem that was exacerbated by the extra weight he put on it moving back.
Anyone that thinks that Blaydes has some insane leg kick game that shatters knees hasn't seen a Blaydes fight, especially not the ones with Tom, since it was Tom throwing a kick and stepping back awkwardly, yes as a pucnh was thrown, that injured his leg. No one in their right mind thinks Curtis Blaydes threw a punch that didn't fucking land and think that's what caused Tom's leg injury.

No one is calling anyone limping after a Poatan fight a fluke.

Tom v blaydes 1 was a fluke injury, it happens. Weidman vs Uriah. Jan vs Rakic, where Jan kicked Rakic's left leg and his right leg gave out, Ortega Yair 1.

A non-fluke injury directly caused by a fighters technique directly aiming to injure that specific part of the body resulting in a stoppage is something like Taira vs Perez, Dolidze vs Holland, or
 
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SuperAlly said:
I’ve been laughing at Mark’s stupidity on here for years

He often has bizarre takes
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He acts like i target him for this, but it's the kind of thing that's had to forget with a MIB neuralyzer: His inability to understand the point of a top 5 in ranked contenders led me to need to actually teach him how to count to 5, cuz he thought you start with zero. I feel like if he just gets a dumb take on his head, his brain just flushes all intelligent thought to make it true for himself
 
prime_lobov said:
I find it insane that Aspinall fans keep pointing out that Jones got controversial decisions over Reyes and Santos. Maybe the decisions were suspect, but the fights were close and Jones basically ended both Reyes’ and Santos’ careers, as evidenced by their declines afterwards. Plus, beyond those two decisions, Jones has a strong record. Let’s compare to Aspinall’s record:

1. Blaydes 2 - This guy gets knocked out every time he gets a big fight. Tom is 1-1 with Blaydes.
2. Pavlovich - just got exposed and pieced up by Volkov.
3. Marcin Tybura - this guy just isn’t very good. Career journeyman.
4. Blaydes 1 - Leg kicked Tom for the win via knee injury
5. Volkov - probaby Tom’s best win. Volkov is consisting on the top 10, but doesn’t consistently perform.
6. Spivac - Like tubura, this guy isn’t great
7. Arlovski - don’t think this needs explanation
8. Alan Badout - who the fook is this guy?
9. Jake Collier - same as above
10+ all nobodies

And everyone is 100% sure he would destroy Jones. What am I missing?
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The issue is Tom beat everyone of consequence in his division except for Jones. You can’t really fault. The guys résumé when the one guy with the name ND refuses to fight him
 
It's weird how quickly Jones fans pick up his talking points and run with them. Suddenly to get a shot being the #1 contender isn't enough, you have to have a better resume than the champ to even challenge for the belt.

It's a hypocritical take to be sure, as Jones didn't have a better resume than the ranked contenders he was beating on his way up.
 
WoozyFailGuy said:
Yes, as it was obviously a preexisting problem that was exacerbated by the extra weight he put on it moving back.
Anyone that thinks that Blaydes has some insane leg kick game that shatters knees hasn't seen a Blaydes fight, especially not the ones with Tom, since it was Tom throwing a kick and stepping back awkwardly, yes as a pucnh was thrown, that injured his leg. No one in their right mind thinks Curtis Blaydes threw a punch that didn't fucking land and think that's what caused Tom's leg injury.

No one is calling anyone limping after a Poatan fight a fluke.

Tom v blaydes 1 was a fluke injury, it happens. Weidman vs Uriah. Jan vs Rakic, where Jan kicked Rakic's left leg and his right leg gave out, Ortega Yair 1.

A non-fluke injury directly caused by a fighters technique directly aiming to injure that specific part of the body resulting in a stoppage is something like Taira vs Perez, Dolidze vs Holland, or
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Watch mark and the Jon fangirls doubled own on their stupidity as they run defence for Jon's ducking
 
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