People actually criticize Jones’ record and ignore Aspinall’s weak competition?

[markys00]

Aspinall has the far better record at heavyweight. No one's arguing Jones isn't the LHW GOAT but his resume at heavyweight is lacking.

Plenty of ppl are arguing Jones isn't the lhw goat. Peds disqualify you from that distinction

 

[Juice]

People shouldnt criticize Jones' record.

And I say this as a Jones' hater

A cheater and piece of shit

but if you judging by his record only, even with the Reyes loss, there's really nothing to bitch about there.

Aspinall has only been around for a really short time but has basically already ran through everyone except Gane.

The only flaw in your argument is Jones didn't lose to Reyes. Your hero Reyes lost to Jones.

There is no amount of butt hurt tears that will ever change that.

 

[HHJ]

The only flaw in your argument is Jones didn't lose to Reyes. Your hero Reyes lost to Jones.

There is no amount of butt hurt tears that will never change that.

Reyes isnt my hero but he did beat Jones. When you win 3 rounds and the other guy only win two, you win. Jones only won the final two rounds when Reyes gassed

 

[Juice]

Reyes isnt my hero but he did beat Jones. When you win 3 rounds and the other guy only win two, you win. Jones only won the final two rounds when Reyes gassed

Reyes is your hero and he did not beat Jones. Your hero Reyes ran most of the fight like a scared b*tch and did zero damage.

Your hero Reyes didn't gas. He simply got outclassed, out struck, and beat in every category in the later rounds.

Just remember, it don't matter how much you whine, Reyes will always have a loss to Jones.

 

[HHJ]

Reyes is your hero and he did not beat Jones. Your hero Reyes ran most of the fight like a scared b*tch and did zero damage.

Your hero Reyes didn't gas. He simply got outclassed, out struck, and beat in every category in the later rounds.

Just remember, it don't matter how much you whine, Reyes will always have a loss to Jones.

Why would someone be my hero and I deny it? Seek help sir.

 

[Juice]

Why would someone be my hero and I deny it? Seek help sir.

Yea sure Miss Lady. Whatever you say.

 

[jban]

If the champ refuses to fight the interim he should be stripped.

How is that even debatable?

No debate at all. If Jones does not want to fight Aspinall next, he should be forced to vacate the title. You cannot call yourself the HW Champ and not fight the interim HW Champ Aspinall, to unify the title.

 

[markg171]

He beat everyone UFC put in front of him with ease including Pavlovic who was considered a killer at the time. HW is a weak division but that's not Aspinall's fault.

Pav was Aspinall’s 2nd win on his current win streak. His most recent win is a guy he’s 1-1 with.

Enjoy hopping onto the next bandwagon

 

[Sycho Sid]

Why should I care about Jones' record at LHW when comparing him to a HW? Aspinall is more proven at HW.

Now if anyone is saying overall their record is comparable, that is silly.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

Not a totally unfair point, but it is hardly Aspinall's fault that Heavyweight is basically trash at the moment, and has been for a while. It's a historically top-heavy division.

This was kind of always my point years ago when people were begging Jones to move up. There were always only a few sexy matchups for him at heavyweight. It’s a very thin division historically.

 

[ferrisjso]

Not a totally unfair point, but it is hardly Aspinall's fault that Heavyweight is basically trash at the moment, and has been for a while. It's a historically top-heavy division.

If its such trash why were people begging Jones to go up to HW and leave a much better division?

I agree its trash but the Jones haters want to have it both ways.

 

[ferrisjso]

Why should I care about Jones' record at LHW when comparing him to a HW? Aspinall is more proven at HW.

Now if anyone is saying overall their record is comparable, that is silly.

In MMA LHW is better than HW or at least has been since the early days of divisions.

 

[mkess101]

Yes TS, there are untold numbers of threads trying to make the case that Tom Aspinall's HW resume' is better than Jon Jones' career accomplishments. It's a good thing you're here to set that record straight.

Hey everyone, in case you're wondering Jon Jones has accomplished more in MMA than Tom Aspinall. If you have any questions, TS is here to help clear things up.

 

[JBJ was here]

And Jon fought a bunch of old midgets all his career,

I'm betting you liked you some chicken-leg jokes about Jones back in the day, probably even now. So lets do a basic explainer: bodies of the same size come in all different shapes. A chicken-legged fighter is going to make up the leg size difference somewhere, such as in limb length and chest size.

Jones was never a particularly big LHW, generally having really easy weight cuts and fighting around 225 on fight night after rehydrating and eating. As a LHW he fought fighters the same size as he was, just a bit differently shaped. That's how weight classes work.

 

[mangokush]

Jones is 2-0 in the UFC HW division
Tom is 8-1 (fluke injury that he avenged)

Jones trying to us his LHW accomplishments at HW to avoid fighting Tom is a lame flex

If Jones really doesn't want to fight Tom that badly then he can just give up the belt

 

[Captain Herb]

And everyone is 100% sure he would destroy Jones. What am I missing?

Speed, power, size, accuracy, youth, desire

 

[AmonTobin]

I find it insane that Aspinall fans keep pointing out that Jones got controversial decisions over Reyes and Santos. Maybe the decisions were suspect, but the fights were close and Jones basically ended both Reyes’ and Santos’ careers, as evidenced by their declines afterwards. Plus, beyond those two decisions, Jones has a strong record. Let’s compare to Aspinall’s record:

1. Blaydes 2 - This guy gets knocked out every time he gets a big fight. Tom is 1-1 with Blaydes.
2. Pavlovich - just got exposed and pieced up by Volkov.
3. Marcin Tybura - this guy just isn’t very good. Career journeyman.
4. Blaydes 1 - Leg kicked Tom for the win via knee injury
5. Volkov - probaby Tom’s best win. Volkov is consisting on the top 10, but doesn’t consistently perform.
6. Spivac - Like tubura, this guy isn’t great
7. Arlovski - don’t think this needs explanation
8. Alan Badout - who the fook is this guy?
9. Jake Collier - same as above
10+ all nobodies

And everyone is 100% sure he would destroy Jones. What am I missing?

If Pavlovich, a fighter with a UFC record 6x 1st round KO win streak at HW is a nobody, what does that make TS? Are you hot today, gone tomorrow?

 

[RedDevilFan]

It all comes down to Aspinall's TDD. If Jones can't take him down he's getting absolutely wrecked by Tom.

I do not know about that, but what is in Toms favor is that jones is not in his prime.

Toms striking defense is an issue because Tom gets hit a lot for a guy who moves as well as he does. If Blaydes can piece Aspinall up consistently in their fight, then jones can too. Blaydes striking is flat and pretty slow compared to jones, who has a better chin, is a more dynamic striker and moves better than Blaydes.

Jones in comparison keeps a high guard and is very difficult to hit flush. Aspinall gets hit flush a lot and may pay for it.

 

[ThaiSexPills]

Schrödinger’s HW division - everybody sucks and none of them deserve to fight the great Jon Jones

Everybody is awesome and that’s why Jon is at the top, because he’s the GOAT.

There’s no excuse for refusing to defend a title and if there was one, it would certainly not be “I’m the best ever, I do what I want”. Either defend or vacate. This is the most annoying saga in MMA history

 

[wrb]

I think its just that Tom is young and very good, Jones is also very good but about to be done with MMA so fight Tom so he can improve his record and quality of fighters. Ilia has already fought two of the best to ever do it, let Tom try and do the same. Even if Jones has fought better people, he is still 37 and in a different weight class and in a different era so he needs give a young guy an opportunity just like he was given one when he was younger. I think the UFC created this problem and I cannot understand why the fuck they don't have rules for this scenario.