Pena did take some bombs from Amanda before she won though

[JudoThrowFiasco]

She was getting sat down with jabs. Amanda comes back in shape and wins.

 

[13Seconds]

Glad she lost so we don't have to see her kid again.

 

[13Seconds]

Disagree. Conditioning is conditioning. Nate Diaz can take a beating but last with cardio into the 5th. You don't gas just because you take shots. She started to get beat up BECAUSE she was gassing.

Ignoring the first part, i can get with the last part of your post. At this point it's just impossible to say what caused Amanda to gas. Totally reasonable that she gassed before she got hit, but that's not a good sign either. Terrible sign actually.

My favourite quote of Demetrious Johnson: "Yeah Dodson dropped me but so what? It's a fight. You're going to get hit in a fight. If you don’t expect to get hit in a fight it's like jumping in a swimmingpool and expect to not get wet"

 

[SuperAlly]

Upon rewatching the classic that is to be Nunes/Pena 1. It will stand the test of time and im happy it took place in my time.

The upset was huge. The actual fight was dogshit poor in terms of quality. Lets be honest.

A classic that you are happy took place in your time.

Wow.

 

[Askafan]

Making Nunes a favourite in the rematch is a bit dumb. The essentials remain the same, Pena can take her punches, can hurt her with her own and threaten her with submissions on the ground. Sure Nunes can fight a more cautious fight, but then judges usually favour the champ in close rounds - much harder for a challenger to sneak a decision.

As I've said before, no-one would have been shocked with a Pena win after 200 , with the Zingano fights fresh in our minds and Amanda's reputation for gassing back then.

 

[Sticko]

To me it looked like Pena has the same body type, with broad shoulders and long arms and might have been just as big or even a little bit bigger then Nunes, altough that's kinda hard to make out on tv.
If she hits people at the end of her punches, just like Nunes always does I can pretty much garantee you she hits just as hard as Nunes and she's good on the ground.
About Nunes not being in shape, before the fight I noticed Nunes looking leaner to me then I ever saw her before, so I don't think that's the case.
I think Nunes got hit harder then she expected and then made the wrong choice and started swinging.
I can see both girls win the rematch, it kinda depends on who's chin cracks first.

Peña definitely looked smaller than Amanda in the cage, to me at least.

The weird thing is Amanda weighed in lighter than Julianna the day before. I don't know what they actually weighed in the cage but Amanda looked bigger.

 

[13Seconds]

The upset was huge. The actual fight was dogshit poor in terms of quality. Lets be honest.

A classic that you are happy took place in your time.

Wow.

So in order for a fight to be a classic every technique must be picture perfect?

It's a fight dawg

 

[StoneWT]

Doesn't seem like rocket appliance to me in the words of a Canadian philosopher.

Amanda could take her punches initially and somewhere along the line the accumulated damage reached the tipping point or that one strike did her in.

Pena wins the rematch and Nunes looks the same/worse. Nunes either tries to over swarm her or tries to over technical it with an eye on looking cool for the camera while Pena focuses on just winning without caring how it looks.

 

[kingJohn]

Literally the only thing Amanda has to do in the rematch is not gas. Folks forget that she was winning pretty easily before she started to fade.

She gassed because Pena pressured her and took the fight to her. Unless Amanda is gonna point fight the whole fight, there's gonna be a point in the rematch where she gasses out again. Pena was 100% correct that Amanda use to gas herself out regularly, and nobody had been able to apply pressure to her in years to take her back to that point.

 

[BigDanStudd]

Every puncher (boxer or MMA) eventually runs into people that they can't get out of there, either because that person is super durable, has great defense, or even both. Mike Tyson, George Foreman, Ernie Shavers, Deontay Wilder, they all ran into opponents where their punching power couldn't carry them through. It's how they adapt that makes them champs. Nunes coudn't adapt mentally and she quit.

 

[epluribusunum]

hope she can cut 20 more lbs.

This was Kayla's 145lb debut in Invicta. No problem w/ the cut and looked great.

 

[Azure]

Pena will win the rematch, she doesn't react the same to getting hit, It truly is just as pena said. other girls go in there defeated before the bell rings. they put nunes on this pedestal like an idol.

She can be broken and will quit just like pretty much any other fighter.

I agree.. Pena ate shots that folded most people and kept moving forward.. Nunes broke just like Cyborg broke when she fought Nunes.

 

[Zarathustra611]

Pretty much what I saw. Pena goaded her into a wild brawl and bet on her chin and to her credit it worked.

I agree with OP that Nunes did land a few big shots- she has great power. Some were knockdowns, some slip/knockdowns. Pena had the guts to keep coming though. She must have had that planning that if you go hard enough, long enough at a "bully" type fighter they get mad & sloppy or it actually shakes them since the person isn't going away.

Credit to Pena for landing enough good shots to rock Nunes & help tire her. It was a bit of a wild brawl as you say but Pena certainly seemed to be striking to more of a plan & thinking out there. Jab, variety etc. Nunes just started throwing the same combo, but harder & harder (& more predictable).

I don't think a rematch is a walk up with for Nunes. I absolutely think she was sloppy & maybe distracted from training this fight (motherhood etc) and that she will come in better for the rematch. But Pena will grow too. She knows she can mix with Amanda on her feet if she has too and she absolutely can win grappling exchanges. She also has the option of if she can hang in long enough, rounds 4 & 5 could see even a fit Nunes gas again.

It's a rematch I'm interested in.

 

[Fergelmince]

Disagree. Conditioning is conditioning. Nate Diaz can take a beating but last with cardio into the 5th. You don't gas just because you take shots. She started to get beat up BECAUSE she was gassing.

It's common knowledge that a couple of solid punches to the face can wreck your gas tank.

 

[Eater of Souls]

View attachment 897754This was Kayla's 145lb debut in Invicta. No problem w/ the cut and looked great.

Yeah and she painted the canvas red.

 

[SovereignPhantom]

So no one else thinks the grappling exchanges in round 1 played a big role in Nunes gassing? She was absolutely going for the finish and not just laying on top like against De Randamie. It wasn't beautiful grappling but Peña defended very well and that tends to gas you if you're not used to putting yourself in those situations in training

 

[13Seconds]

Doesn't seem like rocket appliance to me in the words of a Canadian philosopher.

Amanda could take her punches initially and somewhere along the line the accumulated damage reached the tipping point or that one strike did her in.

Pena wins the rematch and Nunes looks the same/worse. Nunes either tries to over swarm her or tries to over technical it with an eye on looking cool for the camera while Pena focuses on just winning without caring how it looks.

Damn good assesment.

 

[13Seconds]

So no one else thinks the grappling exchanges in round 1 played a big role in Nunes gassing? She was absolutely going for the finish and not just laying on top like against De Randamie. It wasn't beautiful grappling but Peña defended very well and that tends to gas you if you're not used to putting yourself in those situations in training

Yeah i think it played a role. 1st round is overlooked because Nunes was on top, but she was in danger.

Nunes also looked visibly frustrated between corner

 

[SuperAlly]

So in order for a fight to be a classic every technique must be picture perfect?

It's a fight dawg

No. Nice strawman argument though.

However, for a fight to be a classic, nearly every technique cannot be sloppy shit that would embarrass guys in a bar room brawl who've never trained in any martial art.