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PED'S or not, only people losing out are the fans.

Scyth300

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So far, we didn't get to see

Jones vs DC 2
Jones could be suspended for 2 years.
missed out on Chael vs Wanderlei
Chael would still be fighting in the UFC
Wanderlei would still be fighting in the UFC.
Cro Crop would stll be fighting in the UFC (RIZIN are under no obligation to honour his suspension.
Lesner could be suspended (essentially ending his career)
Nick Diaz would still be fighting in the UFC
Frank Mir would still be fighting in the UFC
Yoel Romero would still be fighting
Chad Mendez would still be fighting
BJ Penn would have made his return (banned IV)

Regardless, it's getting pretty annoying now.
 
The only people that benefit fem PED's are USADA… An organisation that earn millions out of tell athletes in sports they know nothing about, what they can and cannot take.
 
The annoying part is when the test results come out.

Jones 2 days before UFC 200?

Get the fuck out of here.
 
So far, we didn't get to see

Jones vs DC 2
Jones could be suspended for 2 years.
missed out on Chael vs Wanderlei
Chael would still be fighting in the UFC
Wanderlei would still be fighting in the UFC.
Cro Crop would stll be fighting in the UFC (RIZIN are under no obligation to honour his suspension.
Lesner could be suspended (essentially ending his career)
Nick Diaz would still be fighting in the UFC
Frank Mir would still be fighting in the UFC
Yoel Romero would still be fighting
Chad Mendez would still be fighting
BJ Penn would have made his return (banned IV)

Regardless, it's getting pretty annoying now.

It needs to either be no PEDs or all PEDs.

I for one say they allow them, but each fighter is required to get blood work week to week if they choose that route.
 
It's all politics, slow, corrupt, unfair, stupid.

I would let them juice take blood samples for research, no punishment.
 
I heard Machida is getting 2 years too. Is that true?

People who support this stuff --punitive drug laws- are the reason pot is illegal. And all the junk science to go along with it. We got a thread going where Kimbo supposedly died of steroids. All these people died of steroids. It is reefer madness.
 
Pride was the best. No drug testing is actually more fair. Also, can't recall fighters dying from PEDs there as well.
 
The UFC as a company also loses out.

Not that it matters..
 
So far, we didn't get to see

Jones vs DC 2
Jones could be suspended for 2 years.
missed out on Chael vs Wanderlei
Chael would still be fighting in the UFC
Wanderlei would still be fighting in the UFC.
Cro Crop would stll be fighting in the UFC (RIZIN are under no obligation to honour his suspension.
Lesner could be suspended (essentially ending his career)
Nick Diaz would still be fighting in the UFC
Frank Mir would still be fighting in the UFC
Yoel Romero would still be fighting
Chad Mendez would still be fighting
BJ Penn would have made his return (banned IV)

Regardless, it's getting pretty annoying now.

Did anyone care about Jones Vs DC 2 tho?
Ok
Who gives a shyt about that fight, Chael would have killed em
Chael had nothing else to prove and nowhere to go
Wanderlai should have gone out with the Stann win
Pfft
Who cares? it was a 1 time come back
Ok
Mir should have retired several years ago
Ok
Alright, but his chin needs recovery
BJ should not come back after Edgar mauled him
 
PED's = fans losing out

No PED's = fans not losing out

Fighters cheating = fans losing out

Fighters not cheating = fans not losing out.

Morale? Go plays some Pokemon, biatch, and care about important stuff.
 
Why would Nick Diaz' circumcision change? he was banned by commission for weed.
 
That's kind of a really selfish way to look at things, but I guess that is understandable. I would say personally I'd feel pretty low if a fighter were to get hurt by another fighter who was using PEDs. In that sense I am not losing out. I have at least a better peace of mind nowadays that what I'm watching is closer to natural, and thus less dangerous.
 
USADA know nothing about the sport of MMA. If people weren't so hung up on this superman complex, sporting organisations wouldn't have to pay millions to drug testing agencies, and they could spend the money on increasing fighter pay, or something far more productive than a company filled with a bunch of nerds playing god with peoples careers...
 
That's kind of a really selfish way to look at things, but I guess that is understandable. I would say personally I'd feel pretty low if a fighter were to get hurt by another fighter who was using PEDs. In that sense I am not losing out. I have at least a better peace of mind nowadays that what I'm watching is closer to natural, and thus less dangerous.
You're grossly overestimating what PED's can do for a person. It is not going to turn them into Ivan Drago and have them killing guys in the cage. It's just going to allow them to train more, and get better at their chosen sport. Nobody got 'more' injured in Pride as opposed to the UFC.
 
Look how boring baseball has been since days of Bonds, McGuire, Sosa etc.. Now they test the hell out of them and fans are left watching 3 hours of snooze fest
 
You're grossly overestimating what PED's can do for a person. It is not going to turn them into Ivan Drago and have them killing guys in the cage. It's just going to allow them to train more, and get better at their chosen sport. Nobody got 'more' injured in Pride as opposed to the UFC.
I'd rather grossly overestimate something like that then continue to have that risk taken. Better safe than sorry.
 
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