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[b34stmode]

Then quote it verbatim, because the reporting I've read states that Horowitz confirmed NBC reporting from 2017 that detailed the briefing Trump had with the offices of the DNI and FBI.

I mean, you guys have made so many deep state claims about this shit, only to say nothing when they get blown the fuck up. Was the Steele Dossier what kicked it off? Fuck no. Did this all start with Page's FISA? Fuck no. Were spies placed in the Trump campaign? Fuck no.

Over and over, you spin these webs, and all they ever show is Pepe Silva......

Lmao what? Did you just poo poo in your diaper and have a typing spasm? All of that was covered today and everyone of those were indeed true. The only thing you liberals can cling on is Horowitz couldn't prove any bias because there was a non existent bar to open the investigation.

https://www.rev.com/blog/inspector-...t-michael-horowitz-testifies-on-fbis-findings

Have at it friend.

 

[hillelslovak87]

Lmao what? Did you just poo poo in your diaper and have a typing spasm? All of that was covered today and everyone of those were indeed true. The only thing you liberals can cling on is Horowitz couldn't prove any bias because there was a non existent bar to open the investigation.

https://www.rev.com/blog/inspector-...t-michael-horowitz-testifies-on-fbis-findings

Have at it friend.

I'm not going to go through a mountain of Lindsay Graham moaning on and on. Where did Horowitz state that the Trump campaign was not briefed by the heads of the DNI and FBI, as is the custom when it comes to foreign meddling?

Horowitz seems, at 17:28 to speak not of the DNI and FBI heads, but an FBI agent who briefed Trump. At 6:23 John Cornyn speaks of a 13 minute briefing from the head of the DNI and the Trump campaign.

The GOP narrative around this seems to be that the FBI agent involved was somehow corrupt and not following the rules, despite those rules typically being prudential. But I see no way where anyone here is denying the Trump campaign was briefed.

and that agent? Horowitz says

"In fact, absolutely appropriate for them to be there. That was the debate that went on internally at the FBI, which is what to do, which they did not discuss either with anyone at the department the appropriateness of it or at the ODNI."

 

[bobgeese]

Keep screaming that they weren't informed, my man. It won't change the basic facts, which are that Trump and his team were warned by intelligence agencies.

Then again, you're listening to US officials who are spitting out Russian intel talking points, so I don't expect your view of reality to be too acute.

Then quote it verbatim, because the reporting I've read states that Horowitz confirmed NBC reporting from 2017 that detailed the briefing Trump had with the offices of the DNI and FBI.

I mean, you guys have made so many deep state claims about this shit, only to say nothing when they get blown the fuck up. Was the Steele Dossier what kicked it off? Fuck no. Did this all start with Page's FISA? Fuck no. Were spies placed in the Trump campaign? Fuck no.

Over and over, you spin these webs, and all they ever show is Pepe Silva......

The IG confirms they sent in spies.

This is it.

Dude who changed the fisa court application is getting charged. Let’s bet on this hill.

 

[hillelslovak87]

The IG confirms they sent in spies.

This is it.

Dude who changed the fisa court application is getting charged. Let’s bet on this hill.

You see, I don't think you can even qualify what "spies" actually means in the context of procedure or law regarding the laws regarding our intelligence apparatus. Horowitz not once even used the word, or suggested at the connotation I think you have been consistently angling at.

 

[bobgeese]

You see, I don't think you can even qualify what "spies" actually means in the context of procedure or law regarding the laws regarding our intelligence apparatus. Horowitz not once even used the word, or suggested at the connotation I think you have been consistently angling at.

Confidential human sources is the official name for spies, I’ll provide a few examples.

Realclear politics.

While Washington pols and pundits angrily debate who counts as a spy, and whether any such exotic creatures have ever been employed by the FBI, new evidence is emerging that the FBI not only uses spies, but has done so extensively, including in the Trump-Russia investigation.

On Thursday, CNN host John Berman asked former FBI general counsel James Baker: “Did the FBI spy on the Trump campaign as the attorney general suggested?” Baker didn’t initially say no, but rather objected that the word “spy” has negative connotations.

Baker then seemed to switch the question from whether spying occurred to its intent, saying: “There was no intention by myself or anybody else I’m aware of to intrude or do activities with respect to the campaign.” Then he continued his sentence with a clause that significantly modified even that claim. There was no intrusion of the Trump campaign, he said, done “in order to gather political intelligence to find out what the political strategies were.” The FBI was only interested in what the campaign was up to regarding Russia.

There’s a very big difference between saying “I didn’t spy” and saying “I didn’t spy for inappropriate reasons.” The former is a denial, the latter is all but an admission. Baker asserted there was no spying done to gather information on Trump’s campaign strategies. Which could very well mean there was spying, just not any for the narrow reason given.





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Spying for Citizenship: An FBI Deal for Muslim Informants

In 2006, then-Attorney General Alberto Gonzales laid out guidelines for the FBI's use of "confidential human sources," also known as informants.

His directives, which are still in force today, prohibit the FBI from recruiting informants through the promise of help on residency or immigration status.




https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/takeaway/segments/spying-citizenship-deal-offer-fbi-informants

 

[hillelslovak87]

Confidential human sources is the official name for spies, I’ll provide a few examples.

Realclear politics.

While Washington pols and pundits angrily debate who counts as a spy, and whether any such exotic creatures have ever been employed by the FBI, new evidence is emerging that the FBI not only uses spies, but has done so extensively, including in the Trump-Russia investigation.

On Thursday, CNN host John Berman asked former FBI general counsel James Baker: “Did the FBI spy on the Trump campaign as the attorney general suggested?” Baker didn’t initially say no, but rather objected that the word “spy” has negative connotations.

Baker then seemed to switch the question from whether spying occurred to its intent, saying: “There was no intention by myself or anybody else I’m aware of to intrude or do activities with respect to the campaign.” Then he continued his sentence with a clause that significantly modified even that claim. There was no intrusion of the Trump campaign, he said, done “in order to gather political intelligence to find out what the political strategies were.” The FBI was only interested in what the campaign was up to regarding Russia.

There’s a very big difference between saying “I didn’t spy” and saying “I didn’t spy for inappropriate reasons.” The former is a denial, the latter is all but an admission. Baker asserted there was no spying done to gather information on Trump’s campaign strategies. Which could very well mean there was spying, just not any for the narrow reason given.





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Spying for Citizenship: An FBI Deal for Muslim Informants

In 2006, then-Attorney General Alberto Gonzales laid out guidelines for the FBI's use of "confidential human sources," also known as informants.

His directives, which are still in force today, prohibit the FBI from recruiting informants through the promise of help on residency or immigration status.




https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/takeaway/segments/spying-citizenship-deal-offer-fbi-informants

Horowitz never spoke about spies even once. But I must say, I think this is a somewhat pointless semantics game. Was anything improper or illegal given the circumstances? That's the question. Horowitz seemed to blow up claims of impropriety when it comes to "spying".

 

[bobgeese]

Horowitz never spoke about spies even once. But I must say, I think this is a somewhat pointless semantics game. Was anything improper or illegal given the circumstances? That's the question. Horowitz seemed to blow up claims of impropriety when it comes to "spying".

Was anything illegal?

Hill, take 30 seconds, go to the Ted Cruz video, 6 minutes in.

THE IG CONFIRMS AN FBI AGENT FALSIFIED EVENDENCE AND PRESENTED IT TO THE COURT.


Now, tell us, was anything illegal done? Hint, Durham’s probe was recently announced to be a criminal probe, and the IG confirms it’s been sent over to the justice department.

@hillelslovak87 sorry start 530

 

[hillelslovak87]

Was anything illegal?

Hill, take 30 seconds, go to the Ted Cruz video, 6 minutes in.

THE IG CONFIRMS AN FBI AGENT FALSIFIED EVENDENCE AND PRESENTED IT TO THE COURT.


Now, tell us, was anything illegal done? Hint, Durham’s probe was recently announced to be a criminal probe, and the IG confirms it’s been sent over to the justice department.

@hillelslovak87 sorry start 530

That proves spying? That sounds like Ted Cruz was saying that an FBI lawyer intentionally committed fraud, whereas Horowitz states that they referred this individual to the AG and FBI.

 

[bobgeese]

That proves spying? That sounds like Ted Cruz was saying that an FBI lawyer intentionally committed fraud, whereas Horowitz states that they referred this individual to the AG and FBI.

Ok, I will try once to genuinely explain this to you without spin.

There are 2 instances of “spying”.

One detailed in my infamous thread, deals with spies (confidential human sources) sent in to GP

The other involves Carter Page and fisa.




This is what Cruz is addressing. The FBI agent falsified evidence presented to the court that was used to spy on Carter Page (this is the even worse kind of spying where the can literally go through your communications, etc).

To be clear, NOT to my credit, I NEVER expected to see anything like this. Truthfully, I didn’t think anything big would come of the fisa stuff, because it’s hard to prove wrongdoing (because usually people are smart enough not to alter fucking evidence). Hence this topic not really even being a part of the other thread.



What I stated in my spying thread has inarguably been proven true, Stefan Halper was wired up and sent in to tape GP.

Now, keep in mind, that is a factual statement. You and I can disagree on whether it was JUSTIFIED. We’ll save that argument for the other thread.



This dude on the other hand, the one who changed evidence, he’s done.

 

[rob mafia]

Then quote it verbatim,

hahahahahahahahaha. the hypocrisy is amazing.

 

[hillelslovak87]

hahahahahahahahaha. the hypocrisy is amazing.

Oh look, my creepy stalker is back.

 

[hillelslovak87]

Ok, I will try once to genuinely explain this to you without spin.

There are 2 instances of “spying”.

One detailed in my infamous thread, deals with spies (confidential human sources) sent in to GP

The other involves Carter Page and fisa.




This is what Cruz is addressing. The FBI agent falsified evidence presented to the court that was used to spy on Carter Page (this is the even worse kind of spying where the can literally go through your communications, etc).

To be clear, NOT to my credit, I NEVER expected to see anything like this. Truthfully, I didn’t think anything big would come of the fisa stuff, because it’s hard to prove wrongdoing (because usually people are smart enough not to alter fucking evidence). Hence this topic not really even being a part of the other thread.



What I stated in my spying thread has inarguably been proven true, Stefan Halper was wired up and sent in to tape GP.

Now, keep in mind, that is a factual statement. You and I can disagree on whether it was JUSTIFIED. We’ll save that argument for the other thread.



This dude on the other hand, the one who changed evidence, he’s done.

Carter Page had been the subject of surveillance since 2013. That does sound shady in relation to a FISA renewal, but it's not like this all sprung up out of nowhere, and he wasn't doing shit that warranted him being watched for years.

 

[rob mafia]

Oh look, my creepy stalker is back.

oh, look - you're holding people to higher standards than yourself. what a shocking surprise. i. am. shocked.

 

[bobgeese]

Carter Page had been the subject of surveillance since 2013. That does sound shady in relation to a FISA renewal, but it's not like this all sprung up out of nowhere, and he wasn't doing shit that warranted him being watched for years.

Hill, please FFS watch the video.

Page WAS A SOURCE FOR THE CIA.

THE GUY WHO CHANGED THE DOCUMENT, LITERALLY WENT IN AND ADDED “not a source”.



The agent falsified documents to state that Carter Page was not a source for the CIA.


...

Let’s review,

“Carter Page is talking to Russians, we should look into that”

Fisa court asks, why is he talking to Russians


The facts reply
“That’s because he’s a source for the cia.”




Fbi agent LITERALLY CHANGES AN EMAIL TO STATE

“Not a source”.

 

[unimackpass]

" Did the FBI tell trump about the Russians?"

"No."

 

[Happy Man]

Hill, please FFS watch the video.

Page WAS A SOURCE FOR THE CIA.

THE GUY WHO CHANGED THE DOCUMENT, LITERALLY WENT IN AND ADDED “not a source”.



The agent falsified documents to state that Carter Page was not a source for the CIA.


...

Let’s review,

“Carter Page is talking to Russians, we should look into that”

Fisa court asks, why is he talking to Russians


The facts reply
“That’s because he’s a source for the cia.”




Fbi agent LITERALLY CHANGES AN EMAIL TO STATE

“Not a source”.

Jesus. Some FBI agent needs to go to jail for that.

 

[bobgeese]

Jesus. Some FBI agent needs to go to jail for that.

I NEVER thought we would find something of this magnitude.

Literally falsifying evidence to state the opposite of the truth.




The egg on the face of the media when this guy gets it will be priceless.

“No political bias, just literal felonies”

 

[MilesAbove]

You're making a strong case for Trump 2020... He needs more time without all of the political distractions..

was opposed too strongly by the dumocraps. he tried though.

He had two years with a Republican House, Senate, and Whitehouse. At least try, duders.

 

[Deleted member 457759]

The Trump campaign was notified by intelligence officials on Russian efforts in meddling. This is not in dispute, and has not been for over a year.



While Holder is right, I would argue that something like Fast and Furious shows he too was incapable of being a competent attorney general.

This isn't true. Horowitz literally just testified that the Trump campaign was NOT notified of Russian interference, which is unprecedented as the FBI was supposed to be protecting him as an American citizen.

But we all know the game was to frame Donald.

 

[Deleted member 457759]

You see, I don't think you can even qualify what "spies" actually means in the context of procedure or law regarding the laws regarding our intelligence apparatus. Horowitz not once even used the word, or suggested at the connotation I think you have been consistently angling at.

Horowitz is made to clarify the lack of usage of the word "spy" and he clearly states that the absence of the word in his report is only due to the fact that spy isnt the vernacular they use, its "surveillance".

So it's literally impossible for him to have found "spying" due to the fact that it's against policy for him to even use the word lol.