1 round? I don't know what fight you were watching.
If you think he DEFINITELY got the 10th round and can't say the same for the 11th and the 12th... then there's something wrong.
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1 round? I don't know what fight you were watching.
If you think he DEFINITELY got the 10th round and can't say the same for the 11th and the 12th... then there's something wrong.
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I didn't say I scored one round for him.. I said he had 1 definitive round. Pac rocked him up in the 11th and 12th.. a case can be made that he won the 12th due to Pac's pace, but a case can also be made that Pac landing more and landing harder won him the round.. which means that it wasn't definitive.
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I thought there were 4 clear rounds, all Mannys, all the others were close.
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which rounds?
edit..for the skipped over the all manny's part because Im just getting over a double shift..
I felt that Bradley clearly won the 10th.. Pac took it off and Bradley jabbed and moved with no resistance.
4 definitive rounds for Pac sounds fair enough.. but then, for all the toss up rounds, the judges have to land on Bradley 88% of the time to give him the fight.. and I just don't see how that is possible considering that Pac was landing cleaner..harder..more often..and Bradley was reacting to Pac shots in a much bigger way than Pac was reacting to his.
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To pour some fuel on the fire, my card. Quality of analysis drops off as I lose the will to live, but it's there:
Round 1
Both fighters flick out jabs without any real intent. Lot of bouncing without much pressure by either. At around 40 seconds the pair exchange bodyshots, Pac reaching with a straight left while Bradley snaps in a good counter-hook to the liver. Pac puts his gloves up and Bradley taps it with some uncommitted jabs. Pac jabs high and reaches with another left straight to body, Bradley counters with a hook to the head. At this early stage Bradley is dictating where the fight takes place and throwing a lot of pawing, range-finding jabs. Pac himself content to simply throw the odd weak jab and put his gloves up when Bradley attacks, with Bradley sending a fairly decent straight right into them at the 45 second mark. Pac comes forward and gets picked off with a jab. Pac misses with a reaching bodshot. Bradley tries to go forward with an ugly flurry but never pulls the trigger and misses everything. Pac throws a one-two combination but Bradley blocks the blow to the chest. As the fight gets to a minute old the patter appears to be Bradley dictating the pace and place of the bout with an at best average jab while Pac tries to leap forward with a straight left to the body and Bradley counters.
Quiet next 30 seconds. Pac reaches with the odd body shot but misses and when Bradley tries to land Pac puts on the earmuffs and backs away. Pac picks up the pace slightly with a straight left to the body. Manny glances Bradley with a jab but is unable to follow up. Bradley keeps up the pawing jab which continues to frustrate Manny in the same way he was frustrated by Mosely as the second minute ends.
Bradley starts the third minute with a flurry, backing Manny up, getting through his earmuffs defence and landing some good shots to the body... best punches of the night so far. Pretty quiet for the next 30 seconds; Manny reaches with his left to little success and Bradley counters with a little more (but still not a huge amount of) success. With 20 seconds left Manny picks up the pace but despite the screaming adoration of the HBO announcers it only really results in one solid and two glancing lefts and a counter from Bradley with some inconclusive exchanges.
Close round. Edge to Bradley on his ring generalship and defence.
10-9 Bradley
10-9 Bradley overall.
Round 2
Bradley starts more active, flurrying Pac early but to limited success and quickly falls back to the pawing jab. The crowd goes wild as Pac comes close to a left but it's not a clean punch. Pac lands a nice shot right hand counter off a flurry but as the pair tie up Bradley hammers Pac with shots to the head and body, pushing Pac back. The pattern of Bradley using a light jab to control range while a bouncing Pac leaps in with lefts continues although Pac lands a nice clean jab. Bradley pushes Pac back to the ropes but the exchange that follows is inconclusive. Bradley is countering well whenever Pac allows the pace to drop but not landing particularly cleanly or with any real snap. Pac misses a left and as he tries to slip away Bradley mugs him with some ugly punches. As the round comes to a close Pac again tries to win the round with a late flurry but virtually everything misses and Bradley manages to pick him off with a single shot.
Close again. Bradley takes it on the brief inside work, ring control and defence over Pac's more powerful shots.
10-9 Bradley
20-18 Bradley overall.
Round 3
Bradley starts the third with a decent right to the body and some pretty poor inside work. Bradley counters a wild left and they fall into a messy clinch before being separated. The round falls into a pattern, Pac throwing a left, Bradley trying to counter and a series of exchanges occuring with Pac generally getting the better of it... and by the end getting to edge in virtually every exchange. Clear Pac round.
10-9 Pac
29-28 Bradley
Round 4
Round starts as the last ended, a bit messy but Pac quickly starts forcing the exchanges that won him the last round. Bradley does a little better, especially when he gets on the inside, but Pac still seems to land the better punches. As the round comes to a close Pac goes wild with punches although Bradley does a quick Sweet Pea impersonation to avoid almost all of them and actually lands a good right hand right at the bell that appears to rattle Pac a little. Closer than the last round but still goes to Pac despite Bradley's defence and counters.
10-9 Pac.
38-38.
Round 5
Bradley does well for the first minute. It's not particularly eye catching stuff but he drops the pace down, avoids Pac's shots and then counters with jabs and hooks as Pac leaves himself off-balance. The pattern continues into the second minute with Bradley avoiding Pac's punches and slipping his own in, although many are taken on the gloves. As in previous rounds Pac tries to steal the points in the last minute but despite his efforts he only really lands one punch with Bradley continuing to slip and defend excellently while attempting his own shots in a bit of a technical brawl.
Pac edged the last minute or so (but it's worth noting that coming forwards and being active doesn't mean you're winning) but Bradley's less eye catching but just as good work in the first two minutes take it.
10-9 Bradley
48-47 Bradley
Round 6
First two minutes are quiet, a repeat of much of the rest of the bout, the only punch of note being a jab from Bradley. The last minute comes and Pac starts to once again push the pace. Bradley continues to defend relatively well but he can't counter this time and Pac does some good work after trapping him in the corner. Clear Pac round.
10-9 Pac.
57-57
Round 7
Bradley round. He's more active early, including some nice inside work and avoiding most of Pac's returns. Pac never really steps up the pace as he did in previous rounds and the slightly higher pace seems to help Bradley. Pac still gets his licks in but not as frequently and not with the domination he showed in earlier rounds. On the whole he almost seemed to take the round off after a fast start.
10-9 Bradley
67-66 Bradley.
Round 8
Pac seems to take the entire round off. He doesn't box with the speed or intensity of earlier rounds and avoids doing a last minute assault. Bradley isn't particularly effective but he's both busier and continues to control the ring and avoid what little offence Pac does throw back. Not a scintillating round and a close one but one Bradley takes.
10-9 Bradley
77-75 Bradley
Round 9
Pac remembers he's actually in a fight this round and is just generally the better man. Bradley hangs in there and counters and flurries when he can but Pac's speed just makes the difference. Nothing as dramatic as some of the earlier rounds but he lands some good straight lefts, doesn't let Bradley find his range for the counters and manages to dictate where the bout takes place. Good round for Pac.
10-9 Pac.
86-85 Bradley
Round 10
Good Bradley round. He led Pac around by the nose for much of it, neutralised his offence and slipped his own work in there as needed. Pac looks like he's coasting, thinking he's well ahead on the scorecards. Everytime he throws a punch Bradley seemed able to slip it, adjust his feet and flash back a counter. No real defining moments and a quiet round, but one Bradley can be content with.
10-9 Bradley
96-94 Bradley.
Round 11
Pac does better this round. He seems to find his range with his left again and skewers Bradley with it a couple of times. Bradley continues to defend well and lands at least a couple of sharp counters... but he does so while eating more punches than he has for a round or two.
10-9 Pac
105-104 Bradley
Round 12
Pac coasting again. He doesn't step up the tempo and suffers as he can't consistently land his left. Bradley is still throwing punches and still landing them as well as using ring generalship and defence to dictate where the round his fought and avoid the offence Manny brings. Pac looks like he's been told he's untouchable on the scorecards and is boxing to that... think Oscar vs Trinidad. On my card that costs him the bout.
10-9 Bradley
115-113 Bradley.
Round 1
Both fighters flick out jabs without any real intent. Lot of bouncing without much pressure by either. At around 40 seconds the pair exchange bodyshots, Pac reaching with a straight left while Bradley snaps in a good counter-hook to the liver. Pac puts his gloves up and Bradley taps it with some uncommitted jabs. Pac jabs high and reaches with another left straight to body, Bradley counters with a hook to the head. At this early stage Bradley is dictating where the fight takes place and throwing a lot of pawing, range-finding jabs. Pac himself content to simply throw the odd weak jab and put his gloves up when Bradley attacks, with Bradley sending a fairly decent straight right into them at the 45 second mark. Pac comes forward and gets picked off with a jab. Pac misses with a reaching bodshot. Bradley tries to go forward with an ugly flurry but never pulls the trigger and misses everything. Pac throws a one-two combination but Bradley blocks the blow to the chest. As the fight gets to a minute old the patter appears to be Bradley dictating the pace and place of the bout with an at best average jab while Pac tries to leap forward with a straight left to the body and Bradley counters.
Quiet next 30 seconds. Pac reaches with the odd body shot but misses and when Bradley tries to land Pac puts on the earmuffs and backs away. Pac picks up the pace slightly with a straight left to the body. Manny glances Bradley with a jab but is unable to follow up. Bradley keeps up the pawing jab which continues to frustrate Manny in the same way he was frustrated by Mosely as the second minute ends.
Bradley starts the third minute with a flurry, backing Manny up, getting through his earmuffs defence and landing some good shots to the body... best punches of the night so far. Pretty quiet for the next 30 seconds; Manny reaches with his left to little success and Bradley counters with a little more (but still not a huge amount of) success. With 20 seconds left Manny picks up the pace but despite the screaming adoration of the HBO announcers it only really results in one solid and two glancing lefts and a counter from Bradley with some inconclusive exchanges.
Close round. Edge to Bradley on his ring generalship and defence.
10-9 Bradley
10-9 Bradley overall.
Round 2
Bradley starts more active, flurrying Pac early but to limited success and quickly falls back to the pawing jab. The crowd goes wild as Pac comes close to a left but it's not a clean punch. Pac lands a nice shot right hand counter off a flurry but as the pair tie up Bradley hammers Pac with shots to the head and body, pushing Pac back. The pattern of Bradley using a light jab to control range while a bouncing Pac leaps in with lefts continues although Pac lands a nice clean jab. Bradley pushes Pac back to the ropes but the exchange that follows is inconclusive. Bradley is countering well whenever Pac allows the pace to drop but not landing particularly cleanly or with any real snap. Pac misses a left and as he tries to slip away Bradley mugs him with some ugly punches. As the round comes to a close Pac again tries to win the round with a late flurry but virtually everything misses and Bradley manages to pick him off with a single shot.
Close again. Bradley takes it on the brief inside work, ring control and defence over Pac's more powerful shots.
10-9 Bradley
20-18 Bradley overall.
Round 3
Bradley starts the third with a decent right to the body and some pretty poor inside work. Bradley counters a wild left and they fall into a messy clinch before being separated. The round falls into a pattern, Pac throwing a left, Bradley trying to counter and a series of exchanges occuring with Pac generally getting the better of it... and by the end getting to edge in virtually every exchange. Clear Pac round.
10-9 Pac
29-28 Bradley
Round 4
Round starts as the last ended, a bit messy but Pac quickly starts forcing the exchanges that won him the last round. Bradley does a little better, especially when he gets on the inside, but Pac still seems to land the better punches. As the round comes to a close Pac goes wild with punches although Bradley does a quick Sweet Pea impersonation to avoid almost all of them and actually lands a good right hand right at the bell that appears to rattle Pac a little. Closer than the last round but still goes to Pac despite Bradley's defence and counters.
10-9 Pac.
38-38.
Round 5
Bradley does well for the first minute. It's not particularly eye catching stuff but he drops the pace down, avoids Pac's shots and then counters with jabs and hooks as Pac leaves himself off-balance. The pattern continues into the second minute with Bradley avoiding Pac's punches and slipping his own in, although many are taken on the gloves. As in previous rounds Pac tries to steal the points in the last minute but despite his efforts he only really lands one punch with Bradley continuing to slip and defend excellently while attempting his own shots in a bit of a technical brawl.
Pac edged the last minute or so (but it's worth noting that coming forwards and being active doesn't mean you're winning) but Bradley's less eye catching but just as good work in the first two minutes take it.
10-9 Bradley
48-47 Bradley
Round 6
First two minutes are quiet, a repeat of much of the rest of the bout, the only punch of note being a jab from Bradley. The last minute comes and Pac starts to once again push the pace. Bradley continues to defend relatively well but he can't counter this time and Pac does some good work after trapping him in the corner. Clear Pac round.
10-9 Pac.
57-57
Round 7
Bradley round. He's more active early, including some nice inside work and avoiding most of Pac's returns. Pac never really steps up the pace as he did in previous rounds and the slightly higher pace seems to help Bradley. Pac still gets his licks in but not as frequently and not with the domination he showed in earlier rounds. On the whole he almost seemed to take the round off after a fast start.
10-9 Bradley
67-66 Bradley.
Round 8
Pac seems to take the entire round off. He doesn't box with the speed or intensity of earlier rounds and avoids doing a last minute assault. Bradley isn't particularly effective but he's both busier and continues to control the ring and avoid what little offence Pac does throw back. Not a scintillating round and a close one but one Bradley takes.
10-9 Bradley
77-75 Bradley
Round 9
Pac remembers he's actually in a fight this round and is just generally the better man. Bradley hangs in there and counters and flurries when he can but Pac's speed just makes the difference. Nothing as dramatic as some of the earlier rounds but he lands some good straight lefts, doesn't let Bradley find his range for the counters and manages to dictate where the bout takes place. Good round for Pac.
10-9 Pac.
86-85 Bradley
Round 10
Good Bradley round. He led Pac around by the nose for much of it, neutralised his offence and slipped his own work in there as needed. Pac looks like he's coasting, thinking he's well ahead on the scorecards. Everytime he throws a punch Bradley seemed able to slip it, adjust his feet and flash back a counter. No real defining moments and a quiet round, but one Bradley can be content with.
10-9 Bradley
96-94 Bradley.
Round 11
Pac does better this round. He seems to find his range with his left again and skewers Bradley with it a couple of times. Bradley continues to defend well and lands at least a couple of sharp counters... but he does so while eating more punches than he has for a round or two.
10-9 Pac
105-104 Bradley
Round 12
Pac coasting again. He doesn't step up the tempo and suffers as he can't consistently land his left. Bradley is still throwing punches and still landing them as well as using ring generalship and defence to dictate where the round his fought and avoid the offence Manny brings. Pac looks like he's been told he's untouchable on the scorecards and is boxing to that... think Oscar vs Trinidad. On my card that costs him the bout.
10-9 Bradley
115-113 Bradley.
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Yeah.. I edited.. I jumped the gun.. tired..thought you meant Bradley had 4 definitive rounds
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Roger Mayweather ‏@RealRogerMay
Can't lie i hate Manny but he did beat the shit out of Bradley. But like i said it's no one to blame but Bob Arum.
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Consortium..Im gonna save this card and respond to it later.. too tired to go through it now..been up all night..
but I will say this.. Pac landed the only meaningful punches of the first round... He won that round
but I will say this.. Pac landed the only meaningful punches of the first round... He won that round
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Mayweather 60%, Pacquiao 40%. That is now a legit offer and likely the best Pac will see for that matchup.
Do you want the fight, Manny?
You didn't want it at 50/50, so I'm gonna assume "no".
We're never going to see this one, boys. It's over. Sucks.
Do you want the fight, Manny?
You didn't want it at 50/50, so I'm gonna assume "no".
We're never going to see this one, boys. It's over. Sucks.
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I had it 134568 Manny and the rest Tim if I recall correctly. If you want to go into detail on that I will record the replay and re score.
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I guess Floyd vs Manny is off then?
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I think the biggest issue here is that 95% of people don't know how to spell "Pacquiao".
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@MannyPacquiao Bring me back some sushi rolls, egg rolls, shrimp fired rice, cook dog, orange chicken and some power pilets back...
I heard Filipinos females have a tight pussy. So i'll have a party with Poochio wife.
Poochio aint getting no pussy tonight from his wife after that decision. Tell her to come over here and let the Mayweathers handle that!
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I heard Filipinos females have a tight pussy. So i'll have a party with Poochio wife.
Poochio aint getting no pussy tonight from his wife after that decision. Tell her to come over here and let the Mayweathers handle that!
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It was never "on" really, but yeah. I'd say it's hard to envision when we get to see that fight if Pac/Bradley II is November 10th. PBF and Pac are getting older by the day now. I realize we all are, but from a fighter's sense they are getting old. It's a shame. Two or three years back this would have been one of the greatest matchups in boxing history.
And Pac isn't going to take 40%. I'd say this ship has officially sailed.
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lol, true!
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im one if not the only filipino out there who knows May would win in a Pac/May fight but last night May's glory was stolen from him
imagne if May took the fight and was the first the give Manny an official L after Morales? shit wont look as good now
imagne if May took the fight and was the first the give Manny an official L after Morales? shit wont look as good now
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Yeah, too bad Floyd turned that fight down. Manny gets robbed and now Floyd has an excuse to never fight him.
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