On a Scale of 1 - 10 how much of Gane's UFC career was protected?

[Herwald]

Not really. He even had close to a year of his career taken out cause of opponents constantly pulling out. He was game, down for whatever.

You can say he was never challenged by a grappler and it's possible Blaydes, Ollie, Tybura and Stipe could fold him into a pretzel, but it wasn't intentional, I don't think. Those fights just didn't manifest.

 

[StonedLemur]

I totally agree. I have him #5 all time personally (Fedor, Nog, Stipe, Werdum, JDS). He was a an absolute monster.

Fedor is all around goat but him and Nog are PRIDE.

I was saying specifically UFC.
I think his ufc resume up to the title is even better than Cains tbh, only reason Cain is above him is he smoked JDS twice.

 

[spinup]

Not really. He even had close to a year of his career taken out cause of opponents constantly pulling out. He was game, down for whatever.

Not just opponents pulling out, he also had very serious health issues, got a punctured lung (second time), surgery for it, and contracted a serious infection keeping in hospital for more than a month.

 

[Ripp0ntare]

1/10

Gotta remember Rozenstreik was on the up and up before he got leveled by Ngannou, Volkov is a good gatekeeper and test, and embarassed a better gatekeeper in lewis.

Not many thought Tai would go on the kill streak he had after a 3 fight skid, so you cant say that gane was being protected from Tai, and Stipe seems to enjoy staying inactive.

Thats the top of the division.

 

[Robbocop]

Just looking at his record:

JDS, Volkov, Lewis are big names and big wins with some serious gravitas in the HW division. The truth is the heavyweight division is kind of thin currently, I have to agree, even though it remains my favourite division and what I am most interested to see. I feel there have been a lot of middling fighters with a high turnover in the division for the past 2-4 years, I am not sure why exactly it is obviously a complex sport.

I'd say he wasn't protected at all really in my opinion.

 

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

Does anyone even know how to do a takedown in UFC HW though ? lol .. I don't know how you avoid grapplers as there aren't any.. now Blaydes I will give you that. The others are so comically bad, striking fights only

 

[BFoe]

Fedor is all around goat but him and Nog are PRIDE.

I was saying specifically UFC.
I think his ufc resume up to the title is even better than Cains tbh, only reason Cain is above him is he smoked JDS twice.

Oh I see—then I’d put JDS #3 if we’re talking UFC only. His resume is a lot better than Cain’s tbh, I rank JDS above him.

 

[StonedLemur]

Oh I see—then I’d put JDS #3 if we’re talking UFC only. His resume is a lot better than Cain’s tbh, I rank JDS above him.

I get how you could come to that conclusion.
Only reason I said Cain was above him is he beat him badly twice after losing the first time.
I flip flop sometimes on that though for the reasons you just pointed out.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

JDS went through a murder's row to get his title shot. Gane's run to his title shot was kind of similar to Costa's.

When did JDS go thru a murderer's row to get a title shot?
His 3 fights before Cain 1 were Gonzaga, Nelson & Carwin
His 1 fight between losing the belt and his 3rd fight with Cain was Mark Hunt.
His streak prior to fighting Stipe for the belt was alternating wins/losses against Stipe W Reem L Rothwell W.

 

[Herwald]

Not just opponents pulling out, he also had very serious health issues, got a punctured lung (second time), surgery for it, and contracted a serious infection keeping in hospital for more than a month.

There you go. Yeah, I don't remember the specifics but the dude had some bad luck, I remember. Obstacles and set backs, one after another.

 

[Taric]

Derek Lewis wasn't ranked in the top 5?
When he fought Gane he was #4 in Sherdog's rankings. Take out Francis as champ & DC who is retired but still ranked #3 for some reason and that makes Lewis the #2 ranked contender.

Volkov was 7th on Sherdog's rankings going into the Gane fight. Take the champ out and DC who was retired but still ranked and he is the #5 Contender.

Rosenstruik was #5 on Sherdog's rankings and take out the champ Stipe and DC who was #2 but retired and he is the #3 ranked contender.

So that's the #2, 5 & 3 ranked contenders but he hasn't faced a top 5 guy? C'mon man! I know this is Sherdog but at least try when you want to post a hot take.

has no wins over any of the top 5.

The top 5 is Ngannou, Gane, Stipe, Tai Tuivasa, and Blaydes.

 

[Swarthy]

TS should be waste landed for this Thread.

FMD

 

[spinup]

The top 5 is Ngannou, Gane, Stipe, Tai Tuivasa, and Blaydes.

Ngannou has 4 wins and 1 loss against that top 5.
Stipe has 1 win 1 loss.

Tuivasa, Gane and Blaydes haven't any win against the current top 5.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

Ah yes. The murderer's row of grapplers... at heavyweight

 

[Fedor Fan]

He wasn't really protected except for getting an Interim title shot he didn't deserve.

The skill at HW overall isn't great. He had a pretty standard run up.

Faded JDS is a good resume name for him and Volkov is a very good win.

Not exactly protected.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

The top 5 is Ngannou, Gane, Stipe, Tai Tuivasa, and Blaydes.

No that's not correct. The Champ is champ and the contenders are ranked after that. Otherwise when they introduce a title fight it would be Fighter X the #1 contender and 2nd ranked "Insert Weight Class" fighter in the world.

Also the top 6 ie Champ plus top 5 currently is:
Francis Champ
Contenders
#1 Gane
#2 Stipe
#3 Tuivasa
#4 Lewis (a current top 5 ranked fighter Gane beat)
#5 Blaydes

Since you tried to change the narrative of not beating a single top 5 fighter to currently ranked top 5 you are still wrong.

Gane beat 3 top 5 ranked fighters based on their ranking at the time of the fight.

Claiming he hasn't beaten a top 5 fighter is just plain wrong. Claiming he hasn't beat a top 5 fighter because the top 5 guys he beat fell out of the top 5 is retarded.

 

[mjfan23]

Considering he hasn’t faced khazmat yet at least 7/10

 

[Taric]

No that's not correct. The Champ is champ and the contenders are ranked after that. Otherwise when they introduce a title fight it would be Fighter X the #1 contender and 2nd ranked "Insert Weight Class" fighter in the world.

Also the top 6 ie Champ plus top 5 currently is:
Francis Champ
Contenders
#1 Gane
#2 Stipe
#3 Tuivasa
#4 Lewis (a current top 5 ranked fighter Gane beat)
#5 Blaydes

Since you tried to change the narrative of not beating a single top 5 fighter to currently ranked top 5 you are still wrong.

Gane beat 3 top 5 ranked fighters based on their ranking at the time of the fight.

Claiming he hasn't beaten a top 5 fighter is just plain wrong. Claiming he hasn't beat a top 5 fighter because the top 5 guys he beat fell out of the top 5 is retarded.

I didn't change anything home-slice. I said what I said and you read it incorrectly. And as a result of you reading incorrectly you on went on a tirade about things that are not even accurate.

The top 5 fighters in the HW division based on UFC rankings are: Ngannou, Gane, Miocic, Tuivasa, and Blaydes in that exact order. You can be mad about it all you want but this statement:

He's the #2 ranked HW only behind the champion but has no wins over any of the top 5.

is 100% factually accurate.

That is the only statement made. Anything you want to glean past that statement is on you.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

I didn't change anything home-slice. I said what I said and you read it incorrectly. And as a result of you reading incorrectly you on went on a tirade about things that are not even accurate.

The top 5 fighters in the HW division based on UFC rankings are: Ngannou, Gane, Miocic, Tuivasa, and Blaydes in that exact order. You can be mad about it all you want but this statement:

is 100% factually accurate.

That is the only statement made. Anything you want to glean past that statement is on you.

OK play semantics all you want. Your communication was either deliberately intended to be inaccurate or was inaccurate due to incompetence.

 

[Pierced7681]

Yeah, exactly. And I like Gane, but JDS’s resume of Werdum, Struve, Cro Cop, Yvel, Gonzaga, Nelson, and Carwin, all basically in prime or close to it was bananas. Then he beat Cain for the belt and defended against Mir. Crazy, crazy run.

Werdum was fat and didn’t take it seriously
Struve was making his ufc debut and unproven
Crocop was in the twilight of his prime
Yvel was old and making his ufc debut
Gonzaga had just been finished three times before they fought
Nelson was a good win, but JDS was a stylistic nightmare for him
Carwin was never the same after almost dying from the Brock fight and eventually retired

see how easy that was? Lol